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I think a lot of hours were needed for the David / Walter scenes,  especially the fighting scenes,  so you are right BigDave , a lot must have been lost theough editing. But still I like to believe there are at least some 30 minutes saved for later.

Indeed i think it depends on if RS is actually being honest with those 37 hours.

I think something that could contribute to it would be multiple angels..  If say a Scene thats 5 minutes was shot with 3 different cameras, this gives us 15 minutes of footage and allows RS to Mix/Edit these different camera views into footage he feels is ideal... which in this case could mean 10 mins of different angel footage is cut.

Regarding Noomi Rappace what i read into the Shooting was she did a Weeks worth of shooting... aka 7 days, this does not mean it has to be a lot of footage because typically a 2-2.5 hour movie could be shot in 12 weeks or less.  But still this could mean Rappace shot about 10-15 minutes of footage, but who knows how much are retakes or got cut.

I would suspect her role was for the Crossing only....  but its still fun to speculate if there was any more footage shot.   Franco appears to be someone RS just called in to do a few Cameos and then the Last Supper Prologue.

"Is it confirmed that we hear a Deacon at the activation?"

Its one of those unanswered questions, something that drives some to think it was a Deacon, i however think not.....  due to other clues.

So its a good point about why we don't hear the Engineers.... we do however hear the Engineers in the other Hologram Scene but their conversations are muffled and quite low in volume... but it could be the Recordings taken on the Ship have Sound (Hence Dr Shaws Take me Home"

@Ingeniero

Indeed i had made a view comments way prior to Alien Covenant about the Weapons...  How they appeared to comprise of 4 Elements.

1) Outer Shell (Urn)

2) A inner Slime/Waxy Substance (depends on temperature or other factors)

3) The Glass like Ampules/Vials

4) The Substance inside

We can see these Urns are intact and unaffected until after the Prometheus Crew does something to the environment (however those on the Ship remain unaffected)  we see the ones in the Big Head Room React, and a Black Oil like Liquid leaks from the Tops of the Urns, after they appear to start to Sweat and then appear to bubble/melt (Top of the Urns).

The Frozen Urn that David extracts the Ampoules from, appears to have what looks more like tiny particles like black specs of dust/sand that floats around inside some water/liquid...   Its likely the Urns Reacted that Caused the Slime/Waxy Substances surrounding the Ampoules to break down the Glass Vials and Melt the Top of the Urns to release the Black Goo...   Maybe the mixture of the Slime/Waxy Substance and Substance in the Ampoules/Vials combine to give us a different effect than merely the stuff in the ampoules alone?  

This is however based on Prometheus.... with Alien Covenant we get a different effect... but we cant rule out the Weapons Armament Procedure does something to the Urns to cause them to Explode and this Reaction makes the Black Goo have another different effect.

Its why i ponder was the Spores a Result of some Mold/Fungi growing where Stagnant Water was located, that then became infected with the Black Goo either from leaked Urns on the Ship after crashing, or via residue of the Bombardment.

"Why should I do that, BigDave?"

I think it would be interesting to see other peoples interpretations, its the wonderful thing about the ambiguity, even if you drop us a PM i hope my comment was not taken the wrong way as to insult your opinion that is not the case at all.   I value your input and i do like it when someone comes up with some idea that makes me go "i never thought of that" or "that makes perfect sense"

The Prequels Certainly leave a lot of clues that can be interpreted in different ways, the whole Prequels as far as Drafts, Deleted Scenes and Comments by Production or RS, depending which we use or discard really can change the outcome of what ever theories we can come up with.

Prometheus a Great Example, if we look at the Theatrical, and then look at the Deleted Scenes especially ones we never even had on the DVD Extras (Engineer reading the Books in Vickers Suite)  so these can draw a different conclusion for each of us.

I think the MAIN thing is to consider what only the Movies show, and thus ignore the extras, or drafts...  But maybe consider the extras as in the Virals like the Advent.    This does then kind of conflict a bit with my overall interpretation, i will have to give my TWO Cents and then give another one taking into account the Advent/Alien Covenant.

I agree we should not be going down the route of making movies just Dreams, or even introducing some event that allows for Alternative Universes like how Cloverfield Paradox has done.

I think the only logical options as far as other movies are.

1) Finish the Prequels.

2) A literal Alien Resurrection Sequel

3) A Sequel or TWO for the Alien Isolation game, (being careful to not contradict the Alien Franchise Post Alien Isolation until Amanda Ripleys Death. (i would even explore a cover up/conspiracy for her real cause of death).

4) Explore what becomes of Engineer/Xenomorph related Worlds Post Prometheus and Prior to Aliens... i.e LV-223, Planet 4 and Origae-6 and maybe other locations but taking into account to not conflict or contradict anything from Aliens ==> Alien Resurrection.

5) Explore a Universe Franchise/Movie or TV show that deals with the Companies on Earth and  not Engineers or Xenomorphs.

6) Explore what happened on Earth post Aliens and Prior to Alien Resurrection, i.e Wars and Synthetic/Auton Creation and Conflict.

7) Delve into the Engineers and their Hierarchy or even explore alternative Human/Humanoids in the Galaxy much like the BSG Prequels Caprica.

 The Isolation story is the only way I can think of to continue the story while leaving the other movies alone.

The First Child A problem with making movies into dream sequences to shoe horn a new narrative decades later just because it seems like a better idea seems really lazy to me and a slap in the face to the Quadrilogy. It is up to those involved to figure out where to go without revising history. Personally, I vote the Quadrilogy is left intact as canon.

"1) The Weapon we see used here is how it was intended, it was Primed and Activated by its Weapon Deployment System and in effect acted like a Dropped Nuclear Weapon.  Disintegration etc at the Point of Impact, and at a greater Radius lesser effects similar to how Radioactive Fall Out can Mutate Organic Genes/Cause Mutation."

I believe that conclusion number 1) BigDave can be easily supported with what we saw in the "primed" urns in formation in Alien: Covenant, below.

The formation and the light seen at the end of each urn above tends towards conclusion 1. As far as the different outcomes from the mutagen...I believe they "tried" to explain that when David was introducing himself to the crew in his dire "necropolis". 

Why didn't David leave Planet 4?

"When the people of this society realized what was happening, they disabled all their ships to prevent any change of the virus spreading beyond this world."

Alien: Covenant novelization, page 190.

Of course, above, David may be lying in this sentence as he was in the ones he spoke before and those that came after but he was still on Planet 4 after traveling there from LV-223 in a juggernaut. So, he may be telling the truth regarding the Engineer ships on Planet 4.

With both the large Engineer craft and David's juggernaut crashed on the valley floor and the mountainside, then something happened to put them there after/during David's bombardment.

Great point Ati regarding the lack of sounds in the hologram....I guess the Engineer screams are muted from inside the Space Jockey/Chair suit.

'Prometheus was very ambiguous, due to that Deacon like Screech when the Hologram was activated, which could mean they was running from a Deacon.'

Is it confirmed that we hear a Deacon at the activation?

Why don't we hear other noises, shouts, voices, speaking, and so on coming from the hologram record?

'I would welcome you ATI to give us a brief or detailed version of you interpretation as that would be interesting to read ;)'

Why should I do that, BigDave?

We have two movies, Prometheus and AC, 'full of' contradictions and ambiguous characteristics. Accepting the fact that different possibilites and results exist regarding the background events seems to be the best reaction from us. We have to wait and hope that the next prequel will give us the answers.

I believe we are on the same page regarding Prometheus I Moon Girl. I loved the trailers and the movie might be my favorite of the franchise.

The new Alien and Aliens trailers produced may be in relation to the VR experience myth we heard about last year.

Great catch daliens!

Thank you Ingeniero

I know he needed many takes to get the David / Walter scenes right, but up to 37 hours? 

It was said that Noomi Rapace and Hames Franco, who merely appeared in flashbacks in the final film, have stayed on the sets longer and filmed more.

Shouldn't we have had more deleted scenes? For Alien Covenant they are a lot less than for Alien 3.

I think Ridley Scott saved something for later.

That sounds really cool. Have you thought about incorporating the Ripley alien clone concept that has the appearance of an alien Queen. That’s propably one of the coolest creations from the A:R concepts. Not gonna lie, Working off A:R is tuff. If it was me I would have made A3 and AR “dream sequences” and have the story follow an older Rebecca/Newt who goes in search of Ripley.

Ingeniero how good were Out of the Shadows, Sea of Sorrows and River of Pain...loads of angles to work with.

Out of the Shadows, and Sea of Sorrows could easily be films. 

River of Pain felt too rushed. It could almost be a series of its own.

hint hint NETFLIX

I will say, I dislike any angle where Weyland-Yutani is interested in the Xenomorph for "Weapon's Research" though.

It is such a weak motive. It's so.....Terminator. Chuck in some self-aware AI and we'll end up with Skynet lol

....and we already have one rogue self-aware AI....

I like the angle where Weyland-Yutani are more interested in defending humanity against other monsters out there....

"Sir Ridley Scott@Sir_RidleyScott·Aug 6, 2016OH. Done. I shot thirty seven hours of film somehow. Edits for bloody ages now. Shots all basically loud screaming and rubbing cello strings"

I knew it.

..he had to shoot more with the sets identical to many events in the Alien: Covenant Origins book. The extra footage (37 hours total) may be unrelated but I don't think so. Can get two movies out of thirty seven hours of footage filmed for approximately two hours of Alien: Covenant, Advent, and Phobos. 

I'm looking forward to the announcement on April 26, 2018.

My favorite:

"Sir Ridley Scott@Sir_RidleyScott·Jun 23, 2016Read news about me making it up as I go on #AlienCovenant. Actors laughed until I pretended the twist now is they were replicants all alongk"

He did reference "K" at the end...oh, the possibilities.

Yes, some Tweets seem like he wrote them while he had been drinking on his yacht and had wifi access at the same moment.

Awesome topic daliens.

Indeed there are many avenues for Xenomorphs at Present.

Is this Alien Forge set on/near LV-426 and Hadleys Hope, is it set prior to the Sulaco arriving, or after Hadleys Hope was blown up?

We also have Xenomorph remnants on Planet 4, and perhaps Origae-6, or the Covenant Ship, and then we have to look at some how that all of these (Planet 4, Origae-6 and Returning Engineers) all lead to a Engineer ship being in the facility of LV-426/223 at the time of the Space Jockey Event... which opens up the possibility this ship may have been on LV-223 with Davids Creations prior.

So unless these avenues are closed by the time of ALIENS, they are open to having the company obtain Xenomorphs or Related Organisms.   But these Avenues must surely be eradicated by the time of Alien 3 or at least after.... otherwise it would contradict the whole Plot for Alien Resurrection.

Going to move this to the Alien Forum.

You are most welcome IRaptus.

Another thing I loved regarding the Alien: River of Pain, Alien: Sea of Sorrows, and Alien: Out of the Shadows novels was that they were all released in the same year with input from 20th Century Fox.

Indeed I Moon Girl

I think Disney have a lot of Projects and so they appear to be in NO RUSH to carry on with a Alien Covenant Sequel, they also have to consider the Box Office Results and Criticism aimed at Alien Covenant, they surely dont want to invest in a Continuation unless they feel it will double its Budget and also be well received.   I think if we get no News on any other Alien movie by Alien Day 2019 then we have to have concerns for the Franchise Future...  I think right now i would not rule out a AVP Reboot instead.

Alien 5 as in a sequel to Alien R is something thats interesting and i have a Story planned as far as Broad Stokes at the moment, it would be a Plot that would allow Miss Weaver to return as Ripley 8 and set just days after Alien Resurrection.   They would have to CGI overlay her to make her look as old as she was in 1997, but only for  a short time as she would be going through some transformation her Skin starts to turn Grey and Texture changes like Holloway here.

Something like this would mean make up to Miss Weaver would hide her AGE, she then proceeds to Evolve as the Xenomorph DNA overtakes her Human DNA.   She begins to grow a Elongated Head and become a Hybrid.

My Plan was to reveal that Call takes her to Safety and tries to hell her by introducing her to some Scientist in a attempt to halt these changes.  But it then reveals that Call was working for a Secret Auton Cult and her mission on the Betty was not to sabotage the USM plans but to actually obtain a Specimen for the Autons Weapons Division and they actually use the Hybrid Ripley 8 to create a New Strain of Xenomorph that it intends to Destroy all remaining Humans and also Destroy the Synthetic Faction that created the Autons.

It would reveal this Cult holds Worship to DAVID but ultimately Ripley 8 escapes and defeats the Autons plans, and Sacrifices herself bringing closure to Ripleys Saga.

Here are some later posts by Dane Hallett, these are prior to the one he posted that is in the OT

Love this Xenomorph  HERE is the link

Some interesting Depiction of Dr Shaws Fate, it appears Hallett had done some even more disturbing ones.   Original is HERE

Have to congratulate Hallett and Hatton for their work on Alien Covenant ;)

Ah. Thanks BigDave for the clarification.

I'm surprised Ridley didn't get a contract with Fox that would force Disney to continue with the plans of the final prequel.  After that, it should be in Disney's control.  This prequel finale has been in the works for some time now.

This limbo could be a good thing though if Disney takes the franchise seriously.  Still, I just wish Ridley would be allowed to follow his plans.  I think he did great with Prometheus.  We just need a long Alien movie instead of the meager 2 hours.  There's to much in the Alien universe to restrict it to 2 hours, especially for the finale! 

Alien 5 might not be bad if it continued off of A:R.  I mean, A:R ending with the Ripley clone still alive.  I think a follow up would be a great Alien 5.  We would follow a much older clone Ripley and we would get to see Earth for the first time.  It could really be interesting.  That would HAVE to be the last Sigourney Weaver.

Awesome! Thanks Ingeniero, cant wait for some new reading material :)

Interesting premise. I keep wondering if Ripley Scott has plans to leave an egg or something unaccounted for after his prequels. Leave a lose-end to open up the franchise post-Alien3

It appears it is merely that Hallett will be releasing some Art related to the Alien Franchise, be that some work he has done as Fan-Art or maybe some Official Concepts that was not used or released before.

It appears from his comments that SADLY any sequel plans are in a state of Limbo at the Moment.    Prior to the Disney Take over, and looking at how RS and FOX had Projected that Alien Covenant would do well enough and be received well enough.

The Plan would have been Production Stages now, with Shooting in the Summer for a April 2019 release, but the disappointment Critically and Financially with Alien Covenant and the Disney take over have appeared to put any Alien Franchise movie plans on HOLD

I think Blomkamp realized this and hence he posted a few more Concepts for Alien 5, maybe in the hope of Stirring up Fan Interest and Hype on the off chance Disney would maybe consider his idea instead.

I cant even believe he shot that much,i would think someone like Ridley Scott gets his work done Right nearly first time, its what he prides himself on and often states he can get movies shot in much less time than most because he knows what he wants and only needs a few takes.

So its a Question of did he really shoot a extra 35 hours worth of shots?

Its likely this time included the Set-Up/Lighting etc and not 35 hours of footage that ended on the Cutting Floor...  Maybe a question someone should pose to him.

Who knows... RS had mentioned he felt some scenes effected pacing, some scenes also gave too much away.   And then we ultimately have the Re-Shot Dr Shaw vs Engineer Scene.

Ridley Scott did say he Re-shot this as he felt the longer version simply made the Engineer look a bit underwhelming, and so changing it to having him simply Enter the Lifeboat and Aggressively seek out to attack/kill Dr Shaw, but she managed to open the Med-Pod Room door and unleash the Trillobite.   Made the Engineer appear to be more Aggressive and only Hell-Bent on the Destruction/Hatred of all Humans.

The Edited Engineer awakens Scene also portrays the Engineer as just Angry and Vengeful against Humans.  Ridley Scott had referred to the Engineers as Aggressive $"%£^&$

I dont know exactly why things was changed.

It appears he was not pleased with the whole Engineer Enters the Life-boat and is in awe at seeing the Technology we have and the Hologram Screen with the Violin Girl, and also seeing the Books and having a look at one (maybe Bible)  The whole full length (NOT QUITE)  Scene  when also looking at his reaction to Dr Shaw in the awoken Engineer Scene, did seem to show the Engineer was intrigued with Dr Shaw

It would appear after shooting the Final Scene, Ridley Scott felt shortly after they need to do a Re-Shoot while Ian Whyte was in his Burnt Face Make Up, and have him simply entering the Life-Boat to go after Dr Shaw with only One Intention... Destroy her.

So shooting this after they had shot the Final Battle between Engineer and Trilobite, meant he entered the Life-Boat Burnt and so many Scenes had to be cut as they contradicted this.

So by Favoring the attack on Dr Shaw we got in the Theatrical Cut/Home Video, meant scenes like above had to be CUT... as the Engineer clearly is not Burnt.

The Top 3 Images are not even on the Extras... the Bottom 3 are from the Extended Scene on the DVD/Blu-ray extras

I feel the Original Scenes Painted a much more interesting Picture and one were NOT every Engineer must have agreed we needed to be destroyed.. The extended Scene the Engineer did not attempt to Kill Dr Shaw, but he grabbed her, it was only when she got loose by hacking him with a AXE that he got aggressive.

He caught her and instead of killing her he held her down, maybe he was thinking of Forcing himself on her like David did with Daniels in Alien Covenant who knows... but she soon hit the button to open the Door to the Trilobite.

The Original Scenes opened up more for debate, it clearly showed the Engineers did not need the Space Jockey suits to breath outside, it also shows the Burn was likely from a Acid Attack from the Trilobite (thus more Alien DNA connection).

It also seemed to show a interest between the Engineer and Dr Shaw, did these Engineers never have Females, did they loose Females? Was we created so they could eventually regain Females to Breed with (Genesis 6)

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown"

Which added to the whole story of the Engineers as Fallen Angels as Ridley Scott referred them as.

This is interesting, as i get the idea this is set days/weeks before Aliens where the company has obtained or attempt to obtain a Xenomorph either from LV-426..... but maybe elsewhere (due to the prequels we can no longer say LV-426 is the only source of Xenomorphs).

The failure of this mission and RB-323 could lead to the company having no choice but to attempt the Mission we see in ALIENS.

But then it could be a Mission after Aliens and after the failure and destruction of RB-323, it leaves only Ripley as the Source for the Xenomorph.

The Easter Egg in that Concept work is the Alien Day Date...

So its maybe a tease that Dane Hallett could be releasing more un-used ideas and concepts for Alien Covenant, rather than anything official about the Franchise Future.

I will have to have a deeper look at the Black Goo and Advent Video and ignore any previous clues that Prometheus and Alien Engineers had shown.    And try and make some sense of it but it appears the Black Goo has now just been labeled as a Substance that can basically do almost anything.  Which i feel was just a lazy McGuffin way of allowing them to show what they want without worry about contradicting anything.

Certainly... i think it been a case of make it up as they go along,  i think Prometheus was quite clear, and especially when using Alien Engineers as a Rosetta Stone for the Black Goo.

Everyone is entitled to their own theories, my grand theory just seems to add up to what we see in the Movies and Drafts.... but sadly gets a bit contradicted with some comments RS makes and the Extra after Launch stuff like the Advent and Weyland Files.

That i guess we have to accept as Current Explanations even though they are clearly flawed, lazy and well contradicting.  My theories add up with the whole Creation/Gods aspect.

But the after-market Virals, just give us a Race who just create us for fun, then try kill us for fun with a McGuffin Virus that basically is a AI that kills but then can reanimate Engineers and Life.

I would welcome you ATI to give us a brief or detailed version of you interpretation as that would be interesting to read ;)

The Outbreak is always a interesting one because from various drafts the clues to the event change somewhat, we had at one point the Engineers running off to Kill themselves to Prevent the Changes of the Infection, and in a previous one, its implied that some Engineers had suffered Chest Buster Wounds, while others Wounds from the Grown Chest Busters

Prometheus was very ambiguous, due to that Deacon like Screech when the Hologram was activated, which could mean they was running from a Deacon.   I am still drawn to thinking some Sabotage may have been involved, certainly a leak of sorts, be that accidental or on purpose.   I think the Big Question has to be what is the Purpose of the Space Jockey Suits....

The un-shown scenes show us the Engineers did-not need them to breath outside on the Surface (Engineer leaving the Juggernaught to Lifeboat).   If its a Pilot Suit then why do so many need the Suits on, as they dont wear them in Cryo-sleep.  And the Outpost provided a Atmosphere that Humans could Breath, so why did Engineers need those suits.

The only conclusion i think is like a Hazmat Suit, either to prevent infection/exposure to themselves, or to protect the Environment from Contamination via the Engineers, much like such Hazmat suits are worn in some Factories dealing with making Drugs/Cures/Medicines or working on Small Electronic Components like in a Microprocessor Factory 

So the Humans taking their Helmets off may have infected the Cargo in the Big Head Room.   Which is why the Space Jockey Suits were worn, it also make sense that the Room maybe also has a Environment that Stops/Slows down the Infection which is why the Engineers had all been attempting to get to this Room.

So if this is a correct assumption, then we need to start to think of how any infection happened and spread and were all the Engineers infected?

'concrete evidence that can rule in favor of one theory or the other'

Not my theory, that is the most official you find at the moment.

'Jon Spaights Alien Engineers was the Original Concept, the Nano-Scarabs are in essence the Goo...'

Yes, but old concepts and unused ideas can't be taken into consideration if you want to explain the things you see in a movie.

'Sadly they keep changing how it works as they go along and makes for some pretty contradicting elements.'

Totally true, so it is possible that these patterns/rules/explanations will change again for/owing to/in the Alien Covenant sequel.

'but i think those Engineers maybe were not infected large scale like the Bombardment Scene'

We do not know anything about the features and scale of the events happened to the LV-223 Engineers 2000 years ago. It is possible that there was a big explosion in one of the chambers of the pyramid. Or another more serious disaster...

'Does-Not Contradict anything'

Yes, contradictions and ambiguity - probably that was an approach applied by the makers of AC.

That is the reason why this site is not dead.

yes the new Alien and Aliens trailers suck.

I would have loved to see the original Alien trailer on TV back in 1979!!

I bet it would be just as awesome as the Prometheus trailer in 2012.  I loved the Prometheus trailer!

I guess the new Alien and Aliens trailers are cool if you've already seen the movie, which everyone who watches them have.  Maybe that was the motivation behind making them how they did.  If not, that person NEEDS to be fired forever from the Alien franchise.

I didn't read anything in that post that said there was anything coming Alien Day 2018?  I'm confused. 

All I see is a nice render of a proto-morph.  It is definitely more visually appealing than what we got in A:C.  Still, the proto in A:C was close to the one in Alien, so I can see why they went with it.  Plus as BigDave, that would require some extra CGI and a better budget.

Big Dave, those projects sound awesome! A couple years ago I wrote a fan script for Prometheus’s sequel. However because I was too busy with college and a lack of contacts I was not able to advance it. On the sidelines I am working on an alien story that is not connected the franchise.

Interesting, I've never read about that. That would entirely change the story. Why do you suppose Scott cut that, and what do you think he wants us to believe the Engineer's motive was?

Great points, BigDave

I wonder what happened to the 37 hours of film he shot for Alien Covenant. 

Sorry guys but this doesn't get me excited at all. This is just renders from conceptual artists. "Exciting news for Allen fans! More fanfic and fan drawings!" 

Love the Old Trailers...

I also love how the Prometheus ones adopted the same sounds.

Oh and the Egg... WTF people may say.... but i have Plans for that Egg in my Alien Franchise ideas for Movies ;)

Lets just say it is one of the greatest tools of those above the Engineers...   Ridley Scott once mentioned in relation to a Sequel to Prometheus...    he questioned about the Big Bang, was it a Accident?

Nope..... and i have a idea how to explain this... Revealing Multiple Creation Tools, the Goo not being the Top of these... But related to the Egg as in the Trailer/Poster one is ;)

Also what David uses to Destroy LV-223 in my Alien: Absolution idea (Sequel to Alien: Ascension   which is the sequel to Alien Covenant).

The exciting news is Disney contacts me to Pen the Prequels lol

My TWO Projects are...

Alien: Ascension (Alien Covenant Sequel)

Alien: Absolution (the Final Part of the Prequel Saga)

I just need to motivate myself to finish them past the broad idea route, likely just get canned like my Prometheus 2/3 projects though lol

But i really hope we can get some information on where the Project is at present, i am sure RS wants to Finish it...   Logan even had the Draft worked on..

But i am Free if RS fancies a meet and ideas ;)

I really need to get to work on my TWO sequels to Alien Covenant... that would actually explain the Space Jockey event, and the Xenomorph, and how it becomes Bio-Mechanical, and how David makes a Deal with the Engineer Hierarchy, only for them to Sacrifice his new found Companion/Love Interest to get the Classic Xenomorph.

David then is angry on LV-223 at the double-cross and he sabotages a Engineer Ship Cargo...  Seeing the Error of his ways he also Destroys LV-223 but a Engineer ship manages to escape only to be tossed through a Tear in Space and Time to take it thousands of years back in time... and this causes a Egg to loose a Face Hugger... or i may figure another way the Space Jockey gets infected but still sticks with the above kind of Plot.

My TWO Projects are...

Alien: Ascension (Alien Covenant Sequel)

Alien: Absolution (the Final Part of the Prequel Saga)