Rule book Round 2
Alien: Covenant Forum Topic
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Legacy MemberMemberPraetorianApr 8, 201710160 Views96 RepliesLast week dk created the Scified fan made rule book.These are Rules in no particular order:
to have characters written and developed well with no wishy washy whimsical religious zealots.
Do not put too much emphasis on technology like holograms and such.
No romance whatsoever in any alien movie.
No stupid characters such as fifield and milburn (posted X 2)
No time travel (mentioned X 4)
Put Chris and BigDave on the pay roll as consultants/writers with possible cameos. (Dave chose a mutated Jabba)
No more than 3 rewrites of the script. Pick an idea, flesh it out, and make the best version of that idea possible rather than trying to incorporate old versions into some new vision by some new writer. (mentioned X 2)
there is no place for corny over the top cheesy/corny dialog and sequences in this film universe (aka anything similar to Resurrection would be banned)
No predators in the alien film universe, they are both cool but tonally too different to share a film and it be worthy of either,,save that stuff for the comic books (mentioned X 2)
not everything has to be explained ,keep some mystery in this universe so we have something our minds can run wild with (mentioned X 2)
NEVER turn it into an Avengers where our protaginists are just taking our hordes after hordes, it would be silly....even though Aliens went with the action/war vibe it still kept some of the bleak tone and impending doom and terror
Ripley is done, done done never again shoehorn her into a sequel or prequel
Keep the main focus on morphing and mutating as the genesis of the species but still allow an occasional queen ...there is just more ghastly horror to play with when it comes to mutation, but the queen IMO is limited, she looks good our hero fights her thats it, having her on the screen dosnt really open up any storytelling doors for us other than a cool action scene
Im fine with tech but make it look used or serviceable, if its too "bright and shiny" it takes away the tone and feel of the movie
I do not ever want to see Weyland Yutani weaponize the xenomorph.If you want to know why,just play Colonial Marines.Enough said
R rating only (mentioned X 2)
No main character kids
Defined chest-burster gestation period(s). To paraphrase, consistent time lines yet allow some wiggle room for hosts with mentioned physical conditions that may explain gestation time variations.
Xenos not used as cannon-fodder that run around in open spaces, or broad daylight; Ambush/stalking predator only.
No quotes from Ripley as a fanboy nod to her like 'that's not exactly out of the manual' or 'get away from her, you bitch'.
Stay true to H.R Giger and his nightmareish world and design.
No comedy. (Dark humor is OK here and there but not to the extent of Resurrection)
Never, ever again a newborn or anything that resembles that abomination. (I am fine with neomorphs though..) (mentioned X 2)
No "up in the blue, infantile dopehead" ideas in scripts or drafts like wooden planets ur sutch. Alien worlds yes, but please not stupid.
No fan boy service other then set pieces and or details about the alien universe that serves to expand the world
Never 100% CGI, always a mix of practical effects
Dont rely on Ripley storyline
Don’t have more than 2 years between movies.
I just hope they have it all planned out A-Z even if we dont see every part of A-Z as long as they know what a A-Z would be and stick to things that wont contradict it, and so also to tidy up the mess that has been left before.
Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world
NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.
NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along its path.
Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has its own distinct feel, flavor and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.
Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality
People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens. The idea behind the new thread is to 1:To seek possible new contributors.2:For new members to contribute new rules.3:Any new rules suggested Will be debated and okayed by current members.This thread is open to all and open for discussion.
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Hey Guest, want to add your say?
Your points, I'd like to address:
" On the subject of arbitrary characters, keep them to a minimum and don't bother semi-developing them just to have them be, essentially, useless and forgettable. It's a waste of screen time that could be used more productively.
Futuristic weapons? There is a time and a place for them. But nothing too over the top. On a side note: I'd love to see a Xeno shot with a Barrett (APIT round) from a mile away, wide shot as the tracer streaks across the screen then closeup for explosive impact (sorry, bit of a Barrett fan boy - it's a thing of beauty).
No romance - Twilight style? That really needed to be said? Lol. I'd have thought that was a given.
Same with comedy. No place for it. Can you imagine! "
Arbitrary characters: In principle I agree totally, but must mention that such can be used constructively, in accordance with how you suggest they be handles. They make GREAT Monster-Demonstrators. :) EG; I need Manticore's crew to survive, but I also need some suitable monster-chow for ALIEN: Manticore; Paradise. So, enter the Science Expedition. This I would suggest that arbitrary characters have some purpose, even if it just to wear the Purina logo proudly. :D
FUTURISTIC WEAPONS: Love the Barret .50 idea!! That said, weapons such as Lasers, and magnetic-acceleration type (Gauss and Rail-gun) weapons are being developed on a man-portable scale today. Scary thing; this is being done by Backyard Engineers who get amazing results, so it makes one wonder what the Military and assorted corporations have. Thus I think we need to be define what a 'futuristic weapon' is, as real-world tech moves forward, so as to be able to take advantage of real-world tech for our stories yet also stay away from 'phasers on stun', and such.
ROMANCE: Twilight (ick) wasn't 'romance' any more than 50 Shades and it's sequal are BDSM. :D But yeah, that kind of slop doesn't belong...ANYPLACE! :D
I am presuming that romance in the form of, say, a husband and wife on a ship's crew would be acceptable, yes?
COMEDY: Agreed, this is the ALIENverse. That said, life's-like-that kind of things should still be allowed, as Life throws moments at us all that 'Just Happen' and are funny. Yes? But they should be kept to a minimum, and Realistic.
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The points you have I'd like to address:
" IN> "James Cameron shall never be allowed to have a say in the Alien Universe ever again"
"Egg Morphing" MUST be better explained if it is to be "canon". As it stands now it is a weak concept.
The "Space Jockey" is NOT just an engineer. "
CAMERON: I absolutely agree with that point.
EGG MORPHING: I totally agree, it needs to be Featured and properly introduced. Great minds think alike. :D In ALIEN: Manticore I do peel back some (not all) of the mystery and mechanics of such. With luck, if Fox grants me License and Canonization, then that'd solve a LOT of problems.
SPACE JOCKEY: Heh, same story I mention above addresses that also. :D Like a lot of people, I also noticed the considerable size-discrepancy between Space Jockey and Engineer in suit.
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" Perhaps keep Aliens alien - and mysterious. The original film did such a wonderful job of making certain the creature, itself, was unknowable. I would like for that to be maintained. I do not need to know much about the Alien - only that it is not a creature with which I would want to find myself alone. :) "
I TOTALLY agree with this sentiment!!!
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Heh, yeah, agreed, the fachugger is truly a nightmare-creature. That said I have some charmingly horrific creations of my own which are doing their warm-up exercises for ALIEN: Manticore; Paradise.
It is a REAL pain trying to find track-suits for these critters. :D
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My thoughts on found-footage are that:
1: If done as some footage found by other characters in the movie, okay, np...
2; if done a-la Blair Witch, the film-makers would have to be VERY careful and do it RIGHT, or the backlash would be excoriating. But, it might be worth an experiment in the hands of someone truly Competent.
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I like the points DK made, and while I didn't think of it that way, yeah, using it in little, appropriate, well-crafted scenes could add to a movie.
But, I have to ask, would the lack of justification for such possibly be jarring to the audience and harm a movie?
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You make some good points, especially about Casting. I would also add Sandra Bullock to the Casting Ban suggestions.
Age-makeup, sometimes it works great, sometimes it falls apart, it's one of the trickiest elements in movie-making and not all the people in the industry can do it, or wear it, properly from various factors.
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