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Use the Titanium within a carbon-silicon matrix akin to cartilage/chitin and there's NP with Oops the alien's on fire. :D
So, you then have an exoskeleton that can withstand the blast of a plasma drive at point-blank range. ;)
Titanium-Boron Carbonate gives you an insanely strong endoskeleton, or if you balance it half-way between Cartilage (High density) and Ossified Tissue (True Bone) then you have phenomenal strength and light-weight with excellent flexibility. OR, use a horn-like material and that makes things simpler and stronger.
Yes, I spend too much time thinking about this stuff :D
Blackwinter-witch Titanium would be a great choice!!
As a PGE element it is resistant to acid, and is lighter and more ductile than the others in that group.
The two most useful properties of titanium are corrosion resistance and strength-to-density ratio, the highest of any metallic element.
It is already used frequently in the aerospace industry, and from memory a lot of pins and screws used in bone-repair surgery are titanium based....so that already has the bio-mechanical thumbs up :)
It is pretty reactive to chlorine gas though, and likes to catch fire at a drop of a hat if not protected by TiO....scratch the alien a bit then set it on fire muhahaha.
Thought: maybe thats why they hate fire.......hmmm
Definitely could be used as an endo-skeleton though!
Perhaps a Titanium Carbide would be strong, durable, stable and light enough to support a Xenomorph exoskeleton?
This is interesting!
All great points, gotta say, especially regarding weight.
It's possible to have a Carbon-Silicon hybrid basis for a creature, though such a critter would be extremely, well...Alien. :)
If one starts looking at some of the more interesting biological structures, such as bone and chitin and rhings like oyster and clam shells...adding in a LITTLE appropriate metals yields an order of magnitude increase in strength and resilience without adding much weight.
I know rocks, and inorganic chemistry to do with rocks.... So Im probably barking up the wrong tree here relating it to biomechanics.
In the realm of inorganic geochemistry - typically the nature of the beast is that strong, hard and chemically robust structures are heavy. very heavy. To be able to support the molecular structure required for stable and resistant bonds.
But obviously a creature the size of Xenomorph would not want to weigh tonnes, as would be the case of an Iridium/Zirconium exoskeleton supporting a ~7 foot beast.
The xenomorph is nimble, agile and able to cling to walls, ceilings and overhanging structures with ease. So its unlikely to weigh the same as a freakin truck.
So you'd want something light, ductile and with some elasticity for movement. But also incredibly tough and able to withstand the Acid X that the Xenomorph contains.
Silicon has long been theorised as an alternate to carbon-based lifeforms, like all us good fellows on earth. It is in the same group as carbon and shares similar properties. Silicon is stronger than carbon based structures, whilst not being ridiculously heavy like transitional base metals. But also more brittle.
It is also very resistant to acid!! Aqua Regia (HCl and HNO3) breaks down most base-metals (excluding silicon, gold and the PGE elements...and strontium does some weird shit but thats another story).
Silicon requires 4-acid digestion (Nitric, Hydrochloric, HF and Perchloric acids) to break down. It also has seriously high boiling point 3250 degrees Celcius to be exact.
However silicon has some major drawbacks. I'll call on Wikipedia to explain....sorry, lazy.
The silicon atom has been much discussed as the basis for an alternative biochemical system, because silicon has many chemical properties similar to those of carbon and is in the same group of the periodic table, the carbon group. Like carbon, silicon can create molecules that are sufficiently large to carry biological information.[10]
However, silicon has several drawbacks as an alternative to carbon. Silicon, unlike carbon, lacks the ability to form chemical bonds with diverse types of atoms as is necessary for the chemical versatility required for metabolism. Elements creating organic functional groups with carbon include hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus, sulfur, and metals such as iron, magnesium, and zinc. Silicon, on the other hand, interacts with very few other types of atoms.
Silicanes (Hydrogen and Silicon compounds) are highly reactive to water and would require an alternate (ammonia?) as a metabolic medium.
Interestingly Kane noted in the Derelict egg chamber an ammonia smell....
Perhaps the humble Xenomorph has a Silicon exoskeleton with a non-interacting internal system utilising alternate biochemistry?
Perhaps an organics chemist might know now better molecular compounds, a graphene or resin perhaps?
Engineer crush Predator easily.
Engineer→Alien→Predator→Human.
I always liked to think that the opening of PROMETHEUS was not Earth, but some other world, maybe on the other side of the galaxy...but given how little we actually KNOW, it could be any planet, anywhere.
Still, I absolutely love the landscape shots of the entire opening sequence.
I've always wondered what else the Engineers were up to...
Have they created/exterminated other species similar to Humans?
That's just one thing I wonder about.
Titanium is also an excellent choice as seen in it's modern day use regarding a wide range of skeletal implants.
Insofar as other metals, well, it's all a matter of bio/molecular chemistry and cellular processes. If you want to see some truly wack biological processes have a look at the extremophiles in general, especially the wide assortment that live in very close proximity to oceanic hydrothermal vents and have silicon-based friendly bacteria living in their gut akin to how our own beneficial bacteria inhabit our digestive systems.
ALSO, there's a range of 'synthetic' elements, some are metals or have metallic allotropes, and while we haven't found them occuring from natural processes as-yet, there's NO reason why they cannot exist as by-products of Hypernovae and neutron-star collisons within nebulae.
Based off what we saw in PROMETHEUS, especially how the Engineer just ignored being hit by a shotgun at least once, and possibly twice...as well as the strength displayed...
My money's on the Predator, BUT I'd sneak some covering bets with a side-bookie on the Engineer.
That said, it'd be one epic brawl :)
You're very welcome and Thank-you very much for posting and letting myself and others know what you thought of it!! I really appreciate that a lot!!
As for 'MOOOORE', heh, well, it's no secret that The Lander ties in Directly to ALIEN: Manticore so that should, I hope, quell your cravings. :D
I'm not done with Manticore and it's crew of merry mayhem-wreakers, as I have a follow-up novel/book in the works: ALIEN: Manticore 'Paradise' and one to follow up on that one. The third is as-yet untitled, but I have scratched down some development ideas for it.
Some 'teasers' regarding ALIEN: Manticore 'Paradise'....
I will be ensuring that the story 'The Resolution of Walter' does tie-in properly.
There wil be some ship-vs-ship combat.
The 'legacy' of David's pathogen-bombing will be addressed.
I am very much looking fwd to getting back to it this Fall when it cools off enough for me to write, in the meantime I'm getting all the development and refinement work done.
That all said, once again; THANK-YOU to all of you who read and enjoy my literary efforts!!
just finished reading the lander . . .what can i say . . .MOOOORE.
well written . . .easy to get lost in the story and fast and choc full of action . . . .ill soon start on manticore . . .cannot wait (rubbing hands together in anticipation). . .oh and THANK YOU :)
I think that they make out in such conditions and start having hot steamy s*x.
Interestingly, the Zirconium would make the alloy more ductile and less brittle, but as an opacifer would make the exoskeleton opaque, like the Neomorphs, but black.
The neomorph seemed independent of David except for the goo bomb. The neomorph seemed biological imo. Interestingly, a face hugger burned the face of a forgettable character but left Oram's face unblemished. There seemed no reason to believe the face huggers were somehow different when they were in the same room. OMFG- another plot hole. Going OT on my own thread. Sorry. I am interested to hear IRaptus expand his idea on the OT! (hands mic to IRaptus).
I knew someone with chemical knowledge would respond.
One thing is how the Xeno could be so agile with a chemical make up that would seem rather heavy.
Another consideration is David would likely have had to somehow find and and refine those elements from the planet he was on.......
.....or to paraphrase Bishop from Aliens- It is something we haven't seen yet.
ooooooooh! This is a fascinating question, and is smack-bang within my area of expertise, Let me think about it. Ill be back with a long answer.
My first instinct is something like an Iridium/Zirconium alloy if we are talking Xenomorph Biomechanicals. Dense, extremely corrosion-resistant, high boiling point and hard would make for excellent Xeno exo-skeleton. It would be heavy as all hell though, with Iridium being the 2nd most dense element behind Osmium.
Interestingly, the Zirconium would make the alloy more ductile and less brittle, but as an opacifer would make the exoskeleton opaque, like the Neomorphs, but black.
"Bonkers but then the entire franchise is now supposed to turn on a mad robot (by their own admission). "
Mad/bad robot or mad/bad human, I really don't see the difference.
What/who else is going to carry the plot?
Xenomorph's piloting their spaceships to Earth...maybe dropping pods onto major cities? Only so many plots for our favorite space bug.
I don't like David and would just as soon have him terminated in the first 5 minutes of the next movie....but then we'd be back to square one. Hero based horror movie. A return to evil corp perhaps.
I don't like to say it...but David is a breath of fresh air.
I do not find you pushy at all quite the opposite. I reduce everything to there story telling virtues thats the only point of ANYTHING (WHETHER THE BIG PICTURE, NARRATIVE OR CHARACTER) whereas you spread out into a kind of encyclopaedic hedging of bets and pull in the discarded and the possibly relevant add ons. As an example I will write "Elizabeth Shaw was the audiences proxy and so says Mr Lindelof" and then you work your way round underneath and on top of the subject instead of simply saying "Yep". Of the two of us I am the pushy one I make my mind up and move on.
BigDave You can always go the space saving cheap knock off route:
Just briefly Covenant. The reason that Shaw and the Engineers were turned over was plot point convenient. So naturally the reason for doing what he did is tenuous to say the very least. But the most illogical thing is to use the Mutagen simply to kill everything so he can sit in his shabby cave for 10 years. Since being transmitted through space its gone from being a mutator where living material changes to a pathogen where everyone just dies. Bonkers but then the entire franchise is now supposed to turn on a mad robot (by their own admission).
Just to bring this back on track and answer your question.
The teardrop ship incident involved the Gods (who Ridley decided we should not see). The sacrifice is profoundly ritualistic and "High".
It is intended to introduce us to a mythos where God Engineers the development of life. That is done by combining two qualities which will help speed up the civilising process and development of the species. a) the unique acolyte and b) the catalyser.
So the two elements are transmitting into the eco system of the world they seed, a currency which leads to evolved species. All you need to think about is what would you need to get you from very not civilised to very advanced civilised.
If you go with Prometheus the mutagen is very straightforward. It mutates and creates supra creational outcomes which change (worms fifield and charlie). It also has had an interesting effect when attached to male sperm a) it fertilised Elizabeth and b) created its own child in a non consensual pregnancy so its echoing the A L I E N lifecycle.
How do we get from very good catalyser (forget Spaihts we didn't do that) to very bad mutagen. The one useful idea that comes out of Advent is radical A I is the base sequence. Much more important than all this is how did we get from very good to very bad period thats a story and well worth telling/explaining.
The design for the neomorph itself is great.
I think the CGI would have been perfected if they didn't move the release from October to May. They would have enough time.
Similar thing with Justice League (2017), how the entire production was rushed and the audience complained about the final CGI (especially about Steppenwolf and Henry Cavill's removed mustache).
"now scientists believe ALL life started in the sea. well theres a waterfall "
In context to the GOO this is something i looked at quite a while ago on here, when David looked at the Goo on his Finger in Prometheus it appeared like it was floating in some liquid, like Granules of Sand in a Tube of Water.
Every Mutation we see with the GOO does appear to also show contact with a Liquid Source....
*The Water Fall/Lake in Prometheus.
*Holloways Drink in Prometheus.
The Urns seem to be made of components, where the Glass Vials are a internal part that contain the Pathogen.. Do these indeed contain a Liquid inside that the Black Stuff needs in order to be effective?
But we also see the Vials are Surrounded by that Slime, is this actually a Liquid (Alcoholic Spirits especially those around 20% Turn into a Slime like Substance when they are in Freezing Temperatures instead of Freezing to ICE). And so the Slime around those Ampoules Acts as a Catalyst Liquid that the Goo Requires to work?
This is a connection i had pondered on here before.
"the engineers have found a way to program it"
This was how the Advent Viral had attempted to explain it, Originally with Jon Spaights and a theory i share is that the Goo is a Hybrid Tool, it breaks down a Organisms DNA/Genetic Makeup and this then forms with the Goo to become a New Mutagen that passes on Sacrificed Organisms DNA to other Organic Matter.
But if we look at the Programing of the Goo, i think it makes more sense that this stuff is Programed to then Interact and Program/Add/Remove Certain Genetic Characteristics of Organic Matter it comes into contact with.
so its kind of like maybe suggesting that the GOO could be the KEY to every Organism. If we do look in Detail at every Single Genetic Marker in a every Organism (as Science Improved we will discover more). Then at the Base Level indeed every Organism could be made up of a combination of Many Many Different bits of Genetic Code, it would be like Writing a Novel (or a Program) where we have much more Characters than a Typical Computer Keyboard has. And the depend what combination and how many of this Characters go into our Program or Novel... Determines what the Life-Form would end up like.
So with say Dogs the Program/Novel would be the same apart from a few changes here and there that Determine the Differences to each Dog Bread. The same could be said for the Differences to each Human. And were Organisms are similar but different, a RAT vs a HAMSTER or a SHARK vs SALMON then there are many more Lines of that Code in the Program/Novel that are different.
So the Goo could either be the BASE set of all the Characters that make up every Organism and can be Programed to Create a Set of Codes that make a Life-form, or at very least it can be Programed to Imprint a New Set of Codes onto Life-Forms it comes into contact with.
So if the Engineers Program the GOO with Markers that related to a Primate DNA, then anything infected with the GOO will take on Primate DNA, and if they Program it with the Markers/Code of a Reptile then the GOO will pass on Reptile DNA to Organic Life.
This seems to be what the Advent was leaning Towards, which if this is CORRECT or its Pretty Close to how they wish to have the GOO looked at. Then while it makes this stuff easier to Explain HOW it can have a unique Reaction to every Organism and pass it off as a MCGUFFIN it does then have to make us THINK that the Black Goo Xenomorph/Deacon Related stuff was not based of anything, but Specifically Programed in order to Achieve something and so the Mural would then be to SHOWCASE the Results of what they wanted to Achieve or what the Base GOO was Programed to Represent. This route does then pose that the Fresco are Not Significant at all.
It also then makes us Wonder... WHY the Sacrifice Scene, if this Stuff can be Programed to Alter DNA in anyway they Choose... WHY not just Pour the GOO all over a WORLD? This is why i think the OLDER Spaights Plan worked best.
The only way this makes sense is IF the World had no Organic Life that it could Imprint its CODE onto (Alien Covenant/Advent claims it only effects the MEAT) Which could fit as that World (Sacrificial Scene) does have Plant Life... but there cant be that without Basic Life Forms.
So the GOO to work as the Advent Claims and NEED a Sacrifice must mean that it is not ideal to be used on Basic Life, and a more Advanced Life-Form is needed so its DNA can be used to Imprint what ever the Desired Results are... so without any Sacrifice the GOO would not be effective enough to lead to Complex Life by infecting Basic Organisms alone. I guess this does fit with the whole SACRIFICIAL Requirement to Create Life.
But this means LIFE Evolved from a Hybrid of the Engineer DNA and what ever it was Programed with... but then the Advent is also hinting that this Substance can not only be Programed to Change the Genetic Markers of Life, it be use Programed or Activated to Destroy/Delete Certain Genetic Markers.
This makes the Black Goo a very Viable Bio-Weapon Tool to Wipe the Slate Clean but only Certain Organisms... because maybe it can be Programed to TARGET Organisms with Genetic Markers Close to Primates so that on Earth Humans, Apes, Monkeys will be Eradicated but other Life-Forms are either untouched or they break down to then reform back into New Life... where as the Programmed Goo would not allow Organisms with Primate DNA to Evolve/Reset but instead these Organisms Genetic Material just become Dead....
This could explain the effect on the Engineers in the Bombardment i suppose.
Very True the Neomorph Design was good, the Xenomorph had some flaws but a majority of the Design was acceptable. But Concept Aside..
Some of the CGI Representation of them both (in the Movie) was not up to the CGI Concept of them.
Necronom 4 I know what you mean. I am not knocking what we have today, but back then, we had to rely more on imagination and anticipation because mass media like this simply did not exist back then until around the mid to late 90s.
Where is the statement?
I was not a big fan of the neomorph and it is possible that it was because of the CGI. This practical bust is quite striking.
Thanks for sharing. That was certainly unique LOL!
LOL:D
Thank-You!! That is one of the BEST compliments I've ever recieved, and the most amusing!! :D
I'm glad you've enjoyed it!!
I Moon Girl & Ingeniero I agree, Ripley in Out of the Shadows was unnecessary.
The story and other characters (particularly Chris Hooper) were more than strong enough to support the novel without dropping in an amnesia-induced Ripley XD
Her inclusion was not enough to ruin the book, because her character was well written, you could almost hear her voice/tone when reading her lines.
...She was just not needed to the plot.
It would be interesting to what Origae-6 is like, i can imagine its a Earth Like World, that has to be Not Quite as Ideal as a Primordial Earth or Planet 4.
I think it would be a bit to much of a Coincidence if this World is connected to the Engineers, certainly if it happens to be a Outpost.
I hope its just a Clean World.... i think a lot depends on HOW BIG Ridley Scott was going for how much these Engineers are capable of or their Creators.... If RS intends to show that WORLDS are Baron places apart from those that the Engineers Terra-form then it would be connected to them.
I just dont think having it as a Bio-Mechanical World, or even just Outposts like LV-223 would be ideal, maybe it would work and be EPIC but i think it would be a bit too much of a Set of Coincidences. That Each movie is Set/Links up to a World the Engineers used.
They had Surveyed this Place and so i would think this would show up any kind of Large/Moderate Scale Industry or Civilization.
If they did decide to have this World Connected... then i hope its just the LONG lost ruins of a Ancient Civilization and make it Ambiguous to Who.... Engineers? Their Creators? Other Creations? other Humanoids they had Destroyed?
So i would have Remains of a City that are in a very Poor State, Worn Away by Countless Thousands or over a Hundred Thousand Years of Weather/Desert Sand... Or Lost under the Vegetation of a Jungle.
Where only Accidental, up close inspection reveals that it was a Ancient Settlement were maybe inside some of the Temples, maybe Deep inside the Destruction and Environment has lefts some of it and Artifacts, Murals etc intact.
"David must know what is on Origae-6...He has the Engineer's maps?"
I think it depends if this World (Origae-6) has been Visited and is known to the Engineers, and they have it Catalogued. The Problem of how David could use the Maps is easy as he is bound to have a Photographic Memory that he can then Plot.
But the Covenant Ship already has this Place Locked into its Destination and there must be some information and surveillance of this World.
But then if they choose to have it as a Engineer World, it could be HIDDEN via some kind of Technology as the Alien Covenant Novel indicated Planet 4 did.
But when Ridley Scott said they are off to the Planet (Origae-6) but there would be 3-4 incoming Parties to Investigate and ONE of those are the Engineers. This tells me that there is NOTHING when David Arrives and any other Races that come in be it Engineers, Humans or Whatever... Arrive Latter.
This does not rule out it ONCE being a inhabited World though. If there are any Coincidences... they i think they could reveal that this Place was in the Stages of being Prepared for Seeding by the Engineers but its NOT Quite ready yet. And so if the Engineers Discover David was the Culprit to Destroying the Engineers Paradise, and he is with a Human Mission to Re-start a New on a New Paradise... you can bet the Engineers would not want Mankind or David TAINTING their New Paradise before its even Began.
Wow what Detail... if only i had the Space and the $$$$$$$
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Thanks for the Share ;)
"So i cant think of a Reason WHY he would go there, when he could SET UP SHOP on Oriage-6 or even just go down to another part of Planet 4 so the Question of WHYhe would go to Origae-6 is a Big One."
David must know what is on Origae-6...He has the Engineer's maps?
Maybe a better supply of black goo than LV-223?
I have before looked to how they would be named...
There is a Pattern... LV-223 (2 2 3) and LV-426 (4 2 6)
The First Digit is doubled 2=>4 the Second Remains, and the 3rd is doubled. But i think the Pattern therefor would be.
1st Moon LV-121 or LV-120
2nd Moon LV-223
3rd Moon LV-426
4th Moon LV-629
Thats how it Logically could work for me, but thats not to say this is the case.
Thanks Ingeniero
I wonder if David was involved in the decision to terraform LV426....
Corp "LV426?!...It's a worthless rock.."
David Weyland "I think it's suitable for a colony...with a little work.."
Corp "Okay..we'll run some scans an..."
David Weyland "No need for that...I visited the 'rock' myself and it's passes all the tests..."
"I can't imagine why David would go back to LV-223."
This certainly is the Big Thing we should always be looking at, Davids Goal/Agenda, which is above all else. When looking at WHY he destroyed those Engineers we need to consider and as i mentioned a number of times YEARS before Alien Covenant... we have to NOT think of David as a ROBOT but as his own Sentient Being, who does not wish to DIE .... a Walter would have been Happy (well maybe not as he has no Feelings/Emotions/Wants) but he would be fine with being Stranded on LV-223 as a Headless Corpse, but David would not as he would feel like he is ALIVE and as he is NOT MORTAL yet to a degree he has a Soul, he would certainly have a lot of Dreams/Ambitions and many many many years of more Experiences that he could take part in so he would NOT want to take any Risks. To a degree that is.. and this is just how i interpreted him.
So i mentioned this years ago, and that is that when going to Paradise/Planet 4 David would way up what he can gain and what he can lose, and he would have took a Risk Assessment i assumed years ago.. So when discussing a Prometheus 2 i always felt there was a Chance David would Choose to Eradicate the Engineers and then from their Ashes/Ruins he can Salvage Dr Shaw some Answers, as just turning up and hoping for a Welcoming Party could be FOOLISH.. Dr Shaw would take that risk to Talk to the Engineers even if their is a 5% Chance she get Answers and a 95% they could just KILL her. David with what knowledge he has and experience from dealing with a Engineer before WOULD-NOT take any Chances of getting Unplugged again. And from the Ruins with the Engineers NO-MORE he has Free-Reign on all their Secrets.
This may be a LONG-WINDED reply to the point ""I can't imagine why David would go back to LV-223." but i made it to show that David would WAY-UP every Risk i would imagine. We need to ask what is his AGENDA?
Does he need LV-223 for more Black Goo? I assume there is some left on Planet 4 and he could head back down to the Surface again before Departing to where ever he wishes to go.
Does he need LV-223 for a Engineer Ship? It could be that Planet 4 has more Ships,(depends on the Deleted Scenes and Novel) but these are In-Active (i cant see how he could not activate them apart from they are controlled by the Docking Ship). So if David needs a Engineer Ship then he has to use HUMAN Technology (Covenant Ship) to get to a World where there are some and LV-223 is pretty close to Earth, there is a risk he could be intercepted and stopped before he manages to obtain a Engineer Ship.
Does he need LV-223 to Create Thousands of Eggs? It seems all he needs its Hosts, and Black-Goo and what ever other Tools he had on Planet 4, and we dont know how these Xenomorphs Procreate yet. But i think he DOES-NOT need to got to LV-223 to Produce all those Eggs and again, getting there via the Covenant runs a risk of getting intercepted before he can accomplish his task.
So i cant think of a Reason WHY he would go there, when he could SET UP SHOP on Oriage-6 or even just go down to another part of Planet 4 so the Question of WHY he would go to Origae-6 is a Big One.
After the Advent Viral Video, you would assume the Weyland-Yutani Company would investigate LV-223 it would be like a BRAVO Team you go to LV-223, while ALPHA team goes to Origae-6. The Advent does show David sending messages as David and Spilling the Beans, while he in Alien Covenant sent messages pretending to be Walter.
So indeed some of those Messages could be Scrambled for Certain EYES only and i wonder if the AI Aspect will have something to do with the Company. RS claims the Next movie is very AI Focused.
But ALAS for Davids Xenomorphs to end up on the Derelict, they have to EVOLVE, they have to End up in their Thousands on a Engineer Ship, that has to END UP in the Facility of LV-223/426 for some REASON.
I can only thing this leaves the Engineers who come into play, Witness Davids Creation and they take it to LV-223 to EVOLVE the Question is do they take them from David... or does David Enter some-kind of a Covenant with these beings... Maybe they break this and SHAFT David and he is used to Evolve them to Bio-Mechanical beings... but the Engineers suffer a Hubris for this and Succumb to Davids Creation.
My Alien Covenant Sequel Ideas (Alien Ascension and Alien Absolution ) do tackle this route, where David finds a NEW Love Interest, a Female Synthetic Construct, who unlike Walter he manages to Tempt like Satan did to EVE and get this Female Synthetic to see that Mankind is the Past and THEY are the Future.
After the Engineers come into contact with Davids Creations and only a few Survive, they come to a COVENANT with David, seeing that Mankind was a Flawed Creation, and the Engineers Creators were too (Genetically Engineered LV-223 kind) and so David and those not too dissimilar Constructs (Engineer Replicants) come to a agreement.
To Work Together and Create a New Generation of Creation, but those beings BETRAY David and use his Queen to be the Bio-Mechanical Origins to the Xenomorph. This would be the 2nd Sequel and David takes Revenge on them, causing the Space Jockey event and Destroying LV-223 in a act of Redemption.
A Act that Destroys LV-233 but ONE ship escapes but the Blast Tears a Temporary Hole in Space/Time that sends the Ship through and back Thousands of Years, Dislodging some of the Cargo that gets to the Pilot. The REST is HISTORY
The themes touch on AI/Creation, the 3rd Act is more Action/Alien, and the 3rd movie covers the Engineers more and others... and it basically follows the Prometheus Themes, makes David the Middle Man in the Xenomorph Creation. Introduces us to HOW the Xenomorph becomes more Mechanical and Covers HOW the Derelict was there for Thousands of Years, without having to go the whole Time-Travel Route as far as the Freedom/Technology to do so... a Event of Destructive Power that opens up a Temporary Hole to the Past covers this... where this cant be replicated.
Well HR Giger had suggested the Ships are GROWN thats how he viewed them, and i think indeed it could be grown like some kind of Bio-Mechanical Plant.
HR Gigers Mural also was very Derelict in Shape, and this Mural shows a connection between the Xenomorph and the Ship as though they are Genetically (if thats the right term) connected. This Mural was supposed to be above the Egg Silos, where each Section had these Bio-Mechanical Pregnant Bellies that HR Giger envisioned would Produce the Eggs.
So in HR Gigers mind he saw a Genetic Connection between the Xenomorph, and the Ship and that the Ship Produced the Eggs, he also felt the ship was LIVING.
This Element and how the Derelict Atheistic was similar in construction to the Xenomorph Hives, did allow us to ponder if they could be constructed similar, and what if the Derelict was build from the Genetic Material of many Races Encountered, and the Xenomorphs use their Genetic Material to Create a Construction Compound.
Thats Pretty Alien right there and also quite Disturbing/Horrific.
But the Prequels Explored a LESS Alien Atheistic to these Ships, but it was always shown in HR Gigers work that Bald Humanoids in Space Suits not to far off the Engineers Suits had something to do with the Xenomorph and these Ships in some Sacrificial Capacity.
Was there some kind of Symbiotic Relationship or does ONE overrule the other? But i think with the route they had gone with the Engineers and Technology, its maybe further from what HR Giger and envisioned and the Concepts and Aesthetics of the Derelict.
I feel lucky in a way. In those days we didn't have easy access to supplements like special features. We had to make do with what we had (a worn out VHS tape which contained only the film.)
I think not having access to what went on behind the scenes made it that little bit more special.
Ah yes Blondie. There's another video that He directed for her. Can't remember the name though
