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If you take Alien: Isolation into account the signal was deactivated by Cpt. Marlow of the Anesidora in 2137. Hoping to prevent others finding it, he wanted the salvage rights.

I think they maybe have to give us a ONE Direct Movie to Tie into Alien.

But open the Door for another Alien Franchise movie that is set at the time of Alien as well....  So the Next Movies Path will lead us to ALIEN on one path... and then lead us to explore another Alien Movie set between the Alien Covenant Sequel and Events after.

So we get the Answer to the Space Jockey ===> 2122 and Alien

But also sets up (continues to use Characters from the AC Sequel maybe even Daniels) to give us another movie Set in the same Time-Line but away from LV-426.

A continuation that can carry on using Characters for 1-2 more movies that by their END we will see WHY the Company has NO choice but to Pursue the Derelict/Hadleys Hope in ALIENS.

But doing so has to be Tricky so as to NOT get caught up with Continuity Flaws...  but ALAS Re-Introducing the Returning Engineers would open up such a thing.  But this is whats needed, as long as by the END the Door is Shut or some Explanation to why there are NO  Engineers or interactions with them or related Xenomorph's at the Time of Aliens and Beyond.

Unless RS Plans would have been to Ret-Con ALIENS so his War of the Worlds can take place.

This is where they HAVE Written themselves into  a Corner.. one reason maybe AC did not fair well was because there was NO depth to Characters, Prometheus set up a opportunity to explore these Characters and Elements.

1) Dr Shaw.... her Faith, and what Revelations would finding our Makers Reveal about her Faith and how would these TEST her. Her Quest is for Answers to Creation, Why and then Why Destroy us.

2) David... now free to Peruse his Agenda, with the knowledge his own Creators Existence/Creation is not important and our Creators are not Special or Divine...  What Quest would he be on... surely Thirst for Knowledge and Power.

3) Engineers.... and explore how these beings connect to Mankind and what the Purpose of our Creation is, WHY LV-223 and how is Pulling the Strings above the Engineers.

4) What connection do the Engineers or their Hierarchy have IF any with the Xenomorph, how does the Xenomorph connect to LV-223 and what was all those Frescos and Murals about.

Sadly ALIEN Covenant only invested in Number 2/4 a Synthetic and a Synthetic Creation made by the Synthetic... so we had no Real Continuation or Expansion on Human or Humanoid Characters from Prometheus... the Engineers and Dr Shaw, brushed aside as merely Pawns in Davids End-Game... with fainting limited Scenes to show what became of them.

Alien Covenant sets up a Continuation to Daniels and Tennessee, and also what becomes of WALTER however the Reveal at the End of AC does not Bold Well for either of the Surviving Humans.

So its a case of ONCE again will a movie that does not bother with Human Characters and only use them as Plot Devices for the Pursuit of showing us Davids Agenda... will this work?

The Problem they have is introducing NEW Character will only really work if some of these Characters get to make it to the 3rd Alien: Prequel. Or of Daniels or Tennessee play a important role in the next movie, and by that i dont mean Important as for Plot Device.... but actually have Screen Time/Plot with them for at least 1/3rd of the Movie.

This could mean TWO movies, but if the Next One Flops with leaving us Hanging on the Cliff Hanger that required a 3rd movie to Connect the Dots to ALIEN

Then a Disappointing Alien Covenant Sequel could leave them DEAD in the Water.

BigDave

Hasn't Scott said that T and Daniels (don't like either of them) will return? Introducing a completely new cast in the last of the new Trilogy is stupid, so a 10 year-shenanigan is not that viable, unless you don't movies with weak characters.

And the most discussions generated by this movie were about  a dead character... wish'em well.

Can Anyone Translate Huante's Writing, i cant really read it, so it would be interesting to see what he had wrote by the side of each Concept.

Appears Blomkamp's Alien 5 Project would have offered some interesting things, and would have explored WHAT the WY company may have done had it Successfully obtained the Xenomorph, and Engineer Technology.

I think some of these ideas should be explored in Future movies, but not as ALIEN 5 was planned...  But a Movie that Sits between Alien Covenant and Aliens, or one that sits after Alien Resurrection.

TIME IS TICKING.....

And i feel had AC done better, we would have been well on our way for a Sequel to maybe concur with a April 26th 2019 release.... i feel Disney would be better to take advantage of the 40th Anniversary by having a Movie come out that Directly connects to Alien...  This movie may have to be one that By-Passes what ever Shenanigans David gets up to with the Covenant Crew, much like Alien Covenant By-Passed any Shenanigans David and Dr Shaw get up-to Post Prometheus.

Thus we arrived 10 years latter...

I feel a Direct Alien Prequel set 10 years after Alien Covenant would be the BEST SOLUTION where we arrive in the year 2114 (or about) the Covenant should have arrived and been at Origae-6 for over 2 years, it gives us about 7.5 years until the Events of ALIEN

But Alas you can understand Disney not being in any rush, and the likely hood of seeing a Alien Movie by April 26th 2019 is unlikely.

I think APRIL 26TH 2019 will be a Pivotal Point as far as the Future of the Franchise, as this 40th Anniversary would be a GREAT way to Market the Franchise Plans with a Announcement for the Sequel or another Alien Movie...    If we get NO-NEWS or Announcements by Alien Day 2019 then i guess we can WORRY about the Future of the Franchise.

HOWEVER..... it allows us to debate the Progress of the Next Movie.

I think we can Safely Assume that FOX/RS had a lot of confidence in Alien Covenant, they appeared to Listen to what they thought were concerns with PROMETHEUS, they looked at a lot of Criticism, mainly around the following.

*A Alien Prequel, that Did-Not reveal the Origins of the Xenomorph

*A Alien Prequel, that never had any Xenomorphs or related Action, only the Zombie Fifield, Hammerpedes and Trilobite which were not XENO Enough.

*Too much Emphasis on Dr Shaw's Quest to find out about our CREATION and reveal our CREATORS are the SPACE JOCKEY Race.

*Disappointments regarding the Engineers compared to what the Space Jockey appeared as.

So with those things corrected in Alien Covenant they thought they was onto a WINNER and surely would expect At-Least the Returns that PROMETHEUS made but with maybe less Critical Reaction (like RS said they want Aliens, i give them £"$%£%^ Aliens).

During the Marketing for Alien Covenant, it appears that RS/FOX were aware where they would take a Sequel, and it would appear a lot of Ground-Work had been laid out....   With Drafts being nearly Finished, Production to begin maybe last Fall or by Spring with SHOOTING to be under way in the Summer of 2018, with a Release sometime in 2019 to Tie into the 40th Anniversary of the FIRST MOVIE.

But ALAS.... The Box Office and Reaction to Alien Covenant was not what they expected... at this point its Safe to Assume that FOX wanted to Gauge the Reaction World World and then after Box Office and the run up to DVD/Blu-Ray Release they would surely Gather Together to discus WHY the Movie Did-Not do as well as expected.

They would need TIME to assess, what went wrong? what needs to be Fixed, which is WHY Ridley Scott started to make comments about with Prometheus he was ahead of the Game... Thus indicating that giving Fans Xenomorphs was not the route to take.

THEN.... we had the Disney Take Over Talks which would have Put Any Plans on HOLD

And with the Take-Over Complete we are now in a STATE of LIMBO it appears IF/WHEN Disney decide to make a ALIEN movie they would want to make sure they get it RIGHT... and so they are in NO-RUSH

I think Alien Day  April 26th could be a Day to Watch as far as what FOX (under Disney) do as far as Marketing, Special DVD Releases or what ever, and i think its HIGHLY Optimistic to expect any NEWS on the Project.

We can only just wait to see what RS says latter in the year after some Interviews on some of his Projects, as maybe RS could be Quizzed and Answer about the Franchise... i feel RS may give us a few hints to what he had Planned, but i am not sure what State those Plans would be in for the Foreseeable Future.

LOL.... i missed this.... bit of a Cruel Joke... but i dont see the Big Fuss, clearly its a April Fools....  now if it was not April Fools then indeed it would Technically be Spamming and Click-Baiting etc... but its just a April Fools Guys ;)

Indeed, i think maybe the New-Direction that could take us down the route that the Derelict has been on LV-426 for NO-MORE than 10 years and likely much less, would make things fit better with the Signal, also it could be broadcasted on a Wave-Length that we cant detect, until after the events that transpire with David on-wards to the Derelict, where the Company could be made aware of a Specific Frequency to detect the SOS

There is a lot of loose ends that need to be covered by the time we get to after ALIEN especially as the Prequels indicate that the Company are aware of things related to the Xenomorph and Engineer Race, prior to Alien and way prior to Hadleys Hope.

" asroids"

That made me chuckle... one of the best Typos we had on here for a while mind you i make a PILE of Typos (Pun intended)

Interesting topic, i think Alien Covenant paints David in a slightly different way than Prometheus does....  I think RENMATRIX and ali81 you are both correct.

I feel David does not want to be Human as in the Fragile Vessel that contains our Soul aka Organically Human, i feel David wishes to be accepted as a Human rather than being treated as a Advanced Toaster.

Prometheus showed us David has complex emotions, he appears to enjoy certain things (Lawence of Arabia) he seemed to feel pleased when Weyland referred to him as his Son, but looked disappointed when Weyland said he will never have a SOUL.... You could see the conflict he had with Vickers, and also Holloway in how David looked like he found it on one hand a insult towards how he was treated, as though he was not a Person, but on the other he seemed proud to not be TOO-HUMAN

Alien Covenant expanded David, while in Prometheus we saw how he may react once he was FREE, we see Alien Covenant shows us that David was disappointed in his Creator, but it was more so the FACT David was created by his Creator to be more PERFECT than Humans, where he would having everything a Human Could have (even complex Emotions and Free-Will) the only things he lacked is.

*A Soul so to speak... the Spiritual Soul (as he feels this is used as a weapon against himself to point out that Mankind is more Important, we have a Divine Purpose , created by Divine beings.... while David is just a Synthetic Tool and there is nothing Special really about his creation.    HOWEVER... Davids journey with Prometheus and on-wards reveals to him that Mankind are misguided and wrong about our Creators too, thus there is NOTHING Special about Mankind or our creation too...

*Reproduction... David may look very human, he may act kind of human, but he is a Synthetic and we have to assume he has no Reproductive Organs even as far as just for Aesthetics.  Did this pave way to some of his Sexual Frustrations?  Did he really Fall for Dr Shaw, but could not provide everything a Human Partner Could (this is a good question, one that the draft for The Crossing proposes a different answer).  REGARDLESS of if David has a Penis or not....  the larger thing to consider is that David CAN-NOT create, not like how Mankind could.  Dr Shaw likewise.... (apart from the help of the Black Goo), however David could CREATE like his own Father did... he could Create something Synthetically/Artificially, which i feel is the very reason for his PURSUIT in Creating his very own Creation in Alien Covenant.

Regarding WALTER i think it shows Davids Frustration that he sees Walter is Superior to David in all but his Free-Will and so David is frustrated at Walters Inability to Create from his own Imagination, even such as a simple Tune...  David sees this LIMITATION has been applied to Walter by Mankind, when Walter is Superior to his Creators, i think David is frustrated too in that when he looks at Walter he sees EXACTLY the intended Purpose for his KIND (Androids) something which David really RESENT'S  the notion that a Superior Species (Androids) should serve their in-superior Creators.

This was actually sort of mild compared to some 04/01 jokes last year. Changing the title due to shelf life opens the gate for everything past including Prometheus predictions.

It’s April 2nd now.  People are still believing and sharing this.  Time to change the title or something to make it clear that this is a joke.

This is a test

This is Not funny !!!!

Thankfully 3D productions seem to be on the wane. They are largely a waste of time and poor quality in my opinion. The single biggest problem is that although they generate a stereoscopic image, there is still only one focal plane. You can't use your eye muscles to focus on details at a particular distance. That doesn't fool my brain, and just leads to a bit of eye strain.

I wonder what went through David's mind when Walter pointed out the flaw in his recollection of Ozymandius' author. That must have been one hell of a dent to his megalomaniacal ego! My guess: "Let's run with it. I'm still better than these suckers."

Man, that's cruel.

Oh crap...it was a joke...Wow I feel dumb since I just told everyone at work 30 minutes ago :/

I'am checking this site for some news like everyday since covenant release, so that was a really bad joke.. 

It’s no exaggeration to say that Scott & Co have made a mess of everything, BigDave. They could have built a fascinating Alien Universe (like the Star Wars universe) instead they have fucked everything up (inconsistencies, bad choices as well as ruining mystery and archaism). As if their soul wasn’t in it. Sad. Still, let’s hope for one more movie where they at least try to connect into Alien somehow.

As for not picking up the signal on LV-426, the explanation could be the harsh weather conditions which disturb communication (as in “River of Pain"), but why then could Mother intercept it (or W-Y long before that)? According to “The Peter Weyland Files”, LV-426 was discovered in 2039 and in “River of Pain” they start terraforming the moon and establish Hadley’s Hope in 2157 (118 years later). The xenomorph outbreak begins 22 years after the colony is established - in 2179. Yes, so for 22 years, no signal, no derelict and no alien is detected on LV-426.

It breaks my heart to read this only as an April Fools'.

Not amused.

Fuck this site.

It appeared to be some sort of shield that the goo ate through- another detail to nit pick. IDK if it is referenced in novels or anywhere else.

Always suspect news on 04/01. I wasn't quite awake and believed it at first. That was smooth, Chris.

The first step in avoiding a trap is knowing of the existence of the trap. Lol, got me.......I can go the rest of my days being thankful we did get Prometheus. Covy, I'm still trying to grapple with

Damn it! I hate April Fools lol. especially with the whole time zone thing, I get to cop it all twice.

hahaha good one though!

Still some solid news on the future of the franchise would be nice

This is NOT funny and I am upset.

I really got excited over the news of the sequel being filmed until I got to the comments.  This joke just went to far, that's all.  To me, this isn't something to joke about. 

I went from thinking it could be years before the sequel even gets started to the thought of watching it maybe Dec. 2019!  

Regardless of the joke, Fox should've made a deal with Disney that Ridley Scott's final prequel should continue as planned with all the freedom Fox gave him after the A:C feedback.  To me, that's fair.

How could Fox let Disney completely mix things up when things were on a fairly set schedule?  Why wouldn't Ridley force a deal between Fox and Disney before he retires.  I mean, it took around 5 years for A:C to come out after Prometheus.  Does Ridley really think he's got another 7 years in him at the age of 80?  He doesn't look like he exercises.  Plus, from his tweets posted on this forum, I think he likes to drink too.  I pray Ridley gets to finish what he started with the freedom Fox gave him.

HAHA. The old good joke.

Good ones!

Remember, they sold off the props from AC.  The beast is cooked.

Hahahaha good one ;)

It certainly does look like the city was protected by an invisible shield. The urns upon hitting the shield were seemingly destroyed, but the black goo wasn't affected by the shield and passed through it. When one of the Engineers saw that he yelled:

"RRRRUUUUNNNNNNNNN"

Planet 4 Engineers weren't prepared for such attack, nor did they see it coming.

Was scrolling through the FB when I stumbled across this article that was posted 2 days ago by Screenrant, how did anyone miss this?

Link: https://screenrant.com/alien-covenant-sequel-not-cancelled/

I know, I'm sorry guys. I'm just as hyped for any news on Covenant 2 as the rest of you. The information regarding where the sequel might go is legitimate, but in actuality we do not have an official production start date. 

However, I thought this would be a great April Fool's post if anything to re-ignite discussion on the matter and hopefully spark some excitement to light a fire under Fox/Disney to get moving on this sequel!

Remember, back in May 2017 Scott did say "Covenant 2 would begin filming within 14 months" - that would place us at July, 2018. So - assuming plans haven't changed too much, a Fall 2018 or early 2019 could be a possible start time frame for the Covenant 2 ball to get rolling.

This post is both an April Fool's gag, but also a statement of wishful thinking haha. Finger's crossed it turns out to be somewhat true!

You got me I actually thought that this was not a prank, kinda wish it wasn't too

 sorry, I was talking about me, I'm the idiot.

 ok, joke's on me ... idiot!

Hmm, this sounds...

*looks at the today's date*

oh, bloody hell.

 Sorry Chris, don't want to be rude or an a$$-hole, but where is the source of the news?

We have a number of in-continuity flaws that need addressing... but these to mean the potential for Novels to explore, but maybe we will never get any answers to them.

*Surely the Weyland Company would want to investigate LV-223 after the Prometheus mission, even if its a probe.. or even if not at some point the company or Yutani would surely come across Dr Shaws SOS would they ignore this, and LV-223 for the next 10 years?

*It appears David has given the company information about what he had been up to and his impending ARRIVAL to Origae-6, at the very least some information would be passed on to where the Company can obtain Davids Creation.  And so we have to ask if the Company can Trace the Signal from near Planet 4 (it depends on where David is when he transmitted it).   Certainly the Advent would inform the company David is on the Covenant and so they could track where he is going, or assume he will be going to Origae-6...  Having knowledge that David had achieved his Creations from what was found during the Prometheus Mission would also surely alert the company to check out LV-223 if it had not already done so..

So what becomes of LV-223, Planet 4, and Origae-6 by the time of Alien? and Certainly Aliens...?

These places must YIELD nothing by the year 2179, and maybe even 2122.