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So you're hinting at a "Lost" in space scenario?? That show was amazing, but even I found the time shifting/"whatever happened, happened" stuff confusing! I think that IF the SJ's are so stupidly advanced, then they could well not experience space/time as humans do. Thus meaning time travelling etc is irrelevant to them, as they'd kinda be able to exist "outside" the box of being limited by time. . .

Cain 1977, I like the idea of the 'live feed' through Ash back to the Company at the point of Kane's demise, that is a very original and chilling concept.

from what i understand it was standard company protocol to investigate the foreign signal i dont think the company knew what they'd find, however ash was placed on the journey quite obviously to secure the return of any alien lifeform special order....to bring back lifeform at all costs crew expendable. (same as that jerk burke!!) this has been discussed before, if the company knew what they were dealing with they would have sent proper scientists/security to capture the specimen. not some greedy space miners!!!!

enjoying this discussion on the set-up in Alien. Ash definitely knew Kane had a chestburster inside him at the dinner when he was watching him. In the scene when Riply goes to the lab to confront Ash about overriding her order to not break quarantine, we see Ash secretly studying a "fetus" shown clearly on the screen... "what is that?"... "I don't know yet"... and asking Ripley to not look in the microscope. The question I am unsure of is: did the company know about the signal and it's likely "Alien" origin BEFORE the Nostrodamus left Thedus? Was the signal received by the ship at the start of the film a signal from the company to now wake the crew or was it the interception of the "unknown origin" signal????? If the company knew about LV-426 beforehand, why send a space freighter? Unless the signal was only recently detected and the flight of the Nostrodamus was just the closest ship which could be organised in time. We know that Ash was put onboard at Thedus just prior to the flight. This signifies either pre-knowledge or science officers were often company androids and Ash only became aware of Order 931 when he woke up. Obviously "there is an explanation" and Special Order 937 imply that the company knew about the SJ/Alien as a possibility that they were waiting or searching for. If the signal received by the Nostrodamus was the SJ signal from LV-426, was this relayed back to the company from mid-flight which then sent 937, or was 937 already enbedded before they left? I must say, Ash did not seem surprised about the flight interruption and it was a "clue" that at breakfast he directs Dallas: "Mother wants to speak to you". It is also unusal that when it was discovered they were in Zeta II Reticuli, the reaction was "what are we doing way out here?".... had the Nostrodamus been diverted for some time before the crew were woken? My feel from is that the company knew beforehand, and the Nostrodamus was just the only ship near enough to send....... (or the company was keeping it secret? to send another Military/Science vessel would have been very overt?) BTW, I love the two ironic comments in the beginning of the film: At breakfast, Parker to Kane: "anyone ever tell you you look DEAD man?" At the crew briefing, Dallas referring to Ash: "Parker, will you just listen to the MAN!" Last comment: if there are 2 prequels, maybe Prometheus will not answer ALL the background set-up for "there is an explanation for this you know"... In Alien, the company was looking for the Xenomorph, but perhaps this is really the domain of Prometheus 2?

The company obviously knew about the possibility of SJ/Xenomorphs and had the strong desire to bring a sample back. Agree it is strange if the company knew beforehand why would they send a space freighter? Unless: a) it was the only ship they could get there in a reasonable time, or b) the company wanted to keep the mission to obtain a sample covert (sending a Military/Science vessel would have meant it was too overt)... However, my question/uncertainty from the Alien set-up is: was the signal received by the Nostrodamus screen at the start of the film the "unknown origin" signal from LV 426 or was it mid-flight instructions from the company to initiate the crew wake-up? From this there are 3 possible scenarios: Scenario 1: it was the LV 426 signal received "out of the blue". The company did not anticipate it for this particular flight, but ALL company flights had the secretly embedded Special Order 937. Scenario 2: it was the LV 426 signal "out of the blue" which was then relayed back to base. After which the company realised what it was and sent Special Order 937. Note: there is no time period clear between the signal being received and how much later the crew was woken up. So for both of these, the LV 426 signal was not anticipated before the Nostrodamus left port... However: Ash was put onboard at Thedus just prior to flight - implies the company knew beforehand, so the LV 426 signal was not "out of the blue". Unless company android Science Officers were common? Ash did not seem surprised when they discovered they were not at Earth i.e. he knew when he woke up. He also directs Dallas at breakfast: "Mother wants to speak to you" implying he knew what it would say. So, this implies Scenario 3: it was not the LV 426 signal. It was the wake-up initiation sent from the company. They knew the Nostrodamus was headed to LV 426 before it left Thedus. The signal had been picked up previously. I also think it is implied that the Nostrodamus had been significantly diverted out of their flight path to Zeta II Reticulli: "what are we doing out here?" There are possible plot inconsistencies in each of these Scenarios... maybe us Alienphiles look for a clear Master Plan in the plot which with all the script rewrites and filming, did not exist in every detail :) Bottom line: "there is an explanation for this you know": the company knew about Xenomorphs enough to secretly look for them and want a sample as a top priority. But they did not know details about what the xenomorph would be - Ash was genuinely studying it to learn. However, remember there is meant to be 2 prequels: so perhaps Prometheus will not answer every Xenomorph/Alien question? Got to have something to look forward to in Prequel No. 2!

The company obviously knew about the possibility of SJ/Xenomorphs and had the strong desire to bring a sample back. Agree it is strange if the company knew beforehand why would they send a space freighter? Unless: a) it was the only ship they could get there in a reasonable time, or b) the company wanted to keep the mission to obtain a sample covert (sending a Military/Science vessel would have meant it was too overt)... However, my question/uncertainty from the Alien set-up is: was the signal received by the Nostrodamus screen at the start of the film the "unknown origin" signal from LV 426 or was it mid-flight instructions from the company to initiate the crew wake-up? From this there are 3 possible scenarios: Scenario 1: it was the LV 426 signal received "out of the blue". The company did not anticipate it for this particular flight, but ALL company flights had the secretly embedded Special Order 937. Scenario 2: it was the LV 426 signal "out of the blue" which was then relayed back to base. After which the company realised what it was and sent Special Order 937. Note: there is no time period clear between the signal being received and how much later the crew was woken up. So for both of these, the LV 426 signal was not anticipated before the Nostrodamus left port... However: Ash was put onboard at Thedus just prior to flight - implies the company knew beforehand, so the LV 426 signal was not "out of the blue". Unless company android Science Officers were common? Ash did not seem surprised when they discovered they were not at Earth i.e. he knew when he woke up. He also directs Dallas at breakfast: "Mother wants to speak to you" implying he knew what it would say. So, this implies Scenario 3: it was not the LV 426 signal. It was the wake-up initiation sent from the company. They knew the Nostrodamus was headed to LV 426 before it left Thedus. The signal had been picked up previously. I also think it is implied that the Nostrodamus had been significantly diverted out of their flight path to Zeta II Reticulli: "what are we doing out here?" There are possible plot inconsistencies in each of these Scenarios... maybe us Alienphiles look for a clear Master Plan in the plot which with all the script rewrites and filming, did not exist in every detail :) Bottom line: "there is an explanation for this you know": the company knew about Xenomorphs enough to secretly look for them and want a sample as a top priority. But they did not know details about what the xenomorph would be - Ash was genuinely studying it to learn. However, remember there is meant to be 2 prequels: so perhaps Prometheus will not answer every Xenomorph/Alien question? Got to have something to look forward to in Prequel No. 2!

Note: Ash knew Kane had a chestburster inside him at dinner. In the scene where Ripley goes to the lab to confront him about his overriding her order to not break quarantine, Ash clearly has the image of the fetus on his screen (which he turns off as soon as Ripley arrives... "what is it?"... "I don't know yet") and he asks her not to look in the microscope. BTW, I love the two pointers we are given in the dialogue at the start of the film: Parker to Kane at breakfast: "anyone ever tell you you look dead man?"... Dallas referring to Ash: "Parker will you just listen to the man!" Makes me think that Ash's casual comment to Dallas re "Mother wants to talk to you" also means more than it seems.

Some of the following is copied from my previous posts as to make my opinions clear and I didn't feel like retyping it all. Sorry it's rather long...but you said, be honest: Alien- Sublime Absolute Masterpiece, well crafted, solid, profund, obviously a classic....these are not my words, but those of my fellow forum members and it's hard to elaborate or improve upon on such appraisals...but I'll try. 'Alien' is one of a kind...it inhabits a very short list of films that has the ability to leave a stain of permanence on the minds of its audience as well as the landscape of film history. The impact of 'Alien' is difficult to measure. That scene where Kane gives birth, so to speak, is, in itself, a moment of pure originality that won't ever be duplicated...not in the value of its sudden shock, its affect on the audience or horror cinema to follow. Ironically, the film's story, at the most basic of levels, is not original, and yet, nothing like it ever was before or has come since. It uniquely manages to translate, in its own bizzarre fashion, an understanding of the likelihood of what will happen when we look into the alien universe that exists outside of our tiny blue marble and, ultimately, humanity's inability to cope with what it finds...'Alien' is about that supreme insignificance of man's arrogant self-importance. And in its execution of those concepts on film, 'Alien' is, as one post put it, sublime.... Aliens- In spite of what you're about to read, I do enjoy 'Aliens' and it is a classic action film from the Golden Age of 80's action films, but I have my issues with it.....and sorry, but the greatest action film of the 80's is 'Die Hard'........ 1st, there's the total plot rip from the first film.....travelers in space (marines this time) investigate a deserted complex (the derelict the 1st time), only to find themselves attacked by the alien species, to be unable to escape them, have to improvise a means to defend themselves, plan to use a shuttle for escape (Narcissus the 1st time, drop ship the 2nd), confront the alien (in this case, the queen), escape the exploding atmospheric processor (or Nostromo the 1st time), escape by the skin of their teeth only to have the alien hitch a ride (this time, the queen), have a battle to the death on board the escape vessel and blow (in both cases) the alien out the airlock (which, is ridiculous and unrealistic the 2nd, because who really believes Ripley would have the strength to pull herself out of an open airlock and do so with no oxygen to breathe, because.....oh, wait.....the vacuum of space would have instantaneously depressurized the Sulaco's loading bay and completely removed every last molecule of air)......so there.....there's that. And I just watched '2001: A Space Odyssey' again and noticed that the music used in the opening sequece of 'Aliens' where the Narcissus is picked up was lifted, all but note for note, from Kubrick's film. 2nd, Cameron altered the canon set up in the first film...'Alien' sets up all the rules as "official". Whenever you write a story, you are setting up the rules of the world you are creating as you go, whether you're aware of them or not. Now, you can bend those rules, but to break them is to ruin the integrity and credibility of the story you're writing. Good writer's understand and respect this principle and also understand and respect that when you take over/work with someone else's material, you're beholden to the rules they set up for the world in which you're working.....and Cameron failed to do this in many respects that we have covered in numerous, previous, threads. 3rd, as I've written, and I have no idea how many times at this point, Cameron morphed the genre from a sc-fi/horror to a sci-fi/action adventure because it suited his comfort zone.... 'Alien' made it very clear what it was...sc-fi/horror...there's no mistaking that. It's in the movie's DNA, to borrow Ridley's 'Prometheus'-'Alien' characterization. The sequels, starting with 'Aliens', morphed from sc-fi/horror into sc-fi/action adenture. AND BECAUSE CAMERON FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH ACTION, not because it suited the material. Cameron and every director that followed (Fincher did come back to horror somewhat), seemed to miss that aspect of the original's identity. 'Alien' is a horror film at its core. And you must look at it that way. A flim's genre is, comparatively, the overriding structure of its individual fingerprint. To alter the genre of a story from one film to its sequels is to rob it of its identity and that, for a storyteller, is basically a sin...it's a bastardization...it's wrong. Alien 3- This, of all the sequels, comes closest to bringing the franchise back to sci-fi/horror. The troubles Fincher was forced to deal with are well documented and far crazier than I think most of us realize, I didn't until I really looked into ti. But the film's a decent sit through, it's entertaining...and I personally prefer it to 'Aliens', but I've always been bothered by the fact THAT IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. When one watches the climax of 'Aliens', there is not a single opportunity for that queen to lay that egg anywhere outside of that dropship's landing gear, which makes the entire reasoning behind 'Alien 3' stupid, ludicrous and, well, cheap. Alien Resurrection- I have a great deal of difficulty even dignifying this mess with my time, but here goes.....From moment one, the film comes off as a cash cow for 2Oth Century Fox and that's all.....Ripley dies at the end of 'Alien 3' and I was fine with that. They, apparently, could not accept it and out of fear for their bottom line. Whedon's original script was void of the character and they strong armed him into writing her in. That pisses me off, in and of itself. So, she's back in.....and how do they do it?.....cloning....wow, never thought of that one before. Cloning, though a timely social issue, has been a dead horse beaten in fiction for so long that it has lost all literary value. Now that they've gone that route, it leads us down two paths...first, we have Ripley's DNA merging with the alien's to give her super this and super that; a new and "improved" Ripley, who, by the way is cinema's first bonafide female action hero....why must we improve that? Second, it leads us to the most regretable of moments in franchise history, a queen alien giving birth like a mammal......I can't believe I just had to right that and mean it in all seriousness....the resultedhumalien child is.....I can't go on...I'm sorry...I'm done.....I've said my piece...Thank You. Alien vs. Predator- The original comics were interesting and fun to consider, but I've never liked the idea of it on screen and the execution was just awful....not to mention an alien bursting out of the chest of the predator at the end who NEVER TOOK HIS MASK OFF until then...so, shouldn't be possible. Alien vs. Predator Requiem- If forced to watch either AVP, this was slightly more entertaining....both were garbage and are not, in my opinion, part of any serious franchise discussion. Predator- Along with 'Aliens', 'Predator' is a classic of the Golden Age of 80's action cinema....both films encapsulate what made this period so productive...genre fusion. They weren't simply action films or sci-fi...they were both. Predator 2- Like AVP, slightly entertaining, but not much else. Predators- A nice addition to the franchise, more in line with where the original left its audience and thoroughyl enjoyable.

ALIEN- The best one, hands down!! There would be no mythology without this one. Aliens- Great film, but unfortunately started the tread of scrapping "within universe" continuity. Which Imo the film, story wise, suffers from. And although Aliens was a seminal sci-fi action film, it's no ALIEN. Alien 3- Further expands on the tread of scrapping "within universe" continuity. Very atmospheric tone and excellent acting, but more of an alternative universe story of a preceding film that sort of could be considered an alternate story line itself. The best scene I argue was the scene in which Ripley's recorded transmission plays in the junkyard room. Certainly homage to the original, but I thought homages were only effectively homages if used within a remake. Alien 3 was suppose to take place in the same universe as Alien and Aliens hence the issues I have with it. Alien Resurrection- Even more of the continuity divergence as this one attempts to unnecessarily takes us a couple hundred years into the future within a film series that's all ready set within an adequate future landscape. Alien vs. Predator- Uh...no comment. Alien vs. Predator Requiem- :/ Predator- Probably Arnold Schwarzenegger's best acted film as he had minimal ham it up one-liners and he actually was apart of an ensemble cast! The Predator itself was just as refreshing and thrilling as the xeno was in the first Alien. Predator 2- Neither Murtaugh nor Mr. Joshua had any business trying to fight a Predator. Predators- Adrien Brody looked more believable going up against a 25 foot tall silverback gorilla than a Predator.

Alien: One of the best movies I've seen. Well-paced, great acting, wonderful story. Thanks to Scott and Giger most of the horror comes from the darkest depths of our own imagination. Aliens: Great action flick. Doesnt age as well as ... Alien3: Brings back some of the claustrophobic horror of the original Alien. Also great acting. Storywise the extended addition improves alot. Some scenes like the one leading up to the death of the medical officer are just wonderfully atmospheric. Ages very well indeed. Alien resurection: why...why? alien vs predator stuff: garbage

Alien: Is a masterpiece, the true Musa of the Science Fiction; a real contribution to posterity and for reflection and a true model for future filmmakers who dare to venture into this wonderful genre, and many times not is understood not designed correctly. With this film sir ridley scott has secured its position as the undisputed master of the genre. The story is excellent and full of mystery, creating an atmosphere of claustrophobic have uncertainty. The characters are very good and well interpreted, with roles clearly defined and consistent with the plot. Especially Sigourney Weaver to personify Ripley. And last we have the legendary scenarios well Mimetic with the plot of the film, and that they became true this perfect universe of fiction canon. It only remains to say thank you Giger design and art. The music of Jerry Goldsmith is impressive, as if you had read the mind to giger is complemented perfectly by the scenarios and the plot...simply a work of art. Aliens: very good, with lots of action and pyrotechnics. It is not the horror film that many would have liked but anyway I contribute significantly to the universe (despite moving away from the original canon). In general James Cameron did a good job. The story is good, not as good as in the first but achieves his objective. The characters are quite acceptable and well-characterized and Mimetic with the plot. The scenarios are well made and generally correspond to the ground that we would like to see in an action thriller film. And forget the great special effects courtesy of Stan Winston. The music is really good. Alien 3: it is an acceptable movie, the only problem is that it adds nothing to the universe. In my opinion it was time to have recourse to the mystery of the popularly called space jockeys. But as Sir Ridley said: they missed it. The story is not all bad but I reiterate with that adds significantly to the universe of the xenomorph. The characters are very well designed and the real point in favour of this film. The scenarios are well done and well supplemented by their respective characters. The music is really good Alien Resurrection: I reiterate again they missed it, the space jockeys are totally ignored for the second consecutive time. The story is not bad, but not… The characters are not bad, perhaps with one better story all would have been better. Scenarios, well there is nothing that already is not seen in another film. The music is regular. AVP: it is only a scrap metal crossover, but out of respect for fans of both creatures fox should take things more seriously to make a movie more decent. The story had a concept (ancient astronauts) which in my opinion can generate an intense and epic history. the problem is that when it falls into the wrong hands ends up becoming a total shit. The characters are really bad, despite seeing lance henriksen playing the character charles bishop. The scenarios are not bad, but I would have preferred that the plot SPD in space. The music is really bad. AVP R: worse than its predecessor, here have a freddy vs. Jason. The story is horrible, the characters are shit and most stereotypes clichés of American Teenegers (as if it were an I know what you did last summer or an American Pie LOL) and scenarios are really bad…I insist that this films should be set in space. The predalien was however in my opinion the only thing salvageable from this. The truth is that the brothers Strause one can only hope shit...and... Yes, more shit! . And the music is really bad. Predator: very good in its combination of science fiction with the typical pyrotechnics of 80s action movies. The story is not the best in the world but achieves his objective. The characters are well done and aimed with the thread of the plot. The scenarios are with the dilemma of the Hunter and Prey. The music is really good. Predator 2: good, although it is more than the same meets in a certain way as a contribution to the concept in general. The history..... mmmmm…. anything that is not seen in the first. The characters are good and the scenery is a change in the jungle of vegetation to the asphalt jungle again complying with the dilemma of the Hunter vs. the Prey (although in my opinion best to already that we can see the authentic Habitat of homo sapiens). And the music is really good. Predators: a kind of déjà vu to the action of the 80s. The story did not seem something original and greater contribution to the franchise. We have redeemable characters and others who really were neglected and not brought to the premise as it would have liked. The scenarios are monotonous, again all a déjà vu of what was the first film. The music is regular.

Alien - Dark, suspenseful, multilayered classic, but pace is a little too slow by today's standards. Aliens - High octane, suspenseful, again pace is a little too slow. Alien 3 - Unfinished, but potentially a reflective, dark and fitting end to the trilogy. Alien Rez - A fresh perspective tarnished slightly by self parody and Newborns design. AVP - Good idea, good story, cardboard acting, too Blockbuster-ish. AVPR - Good idea, good story, slightly better acting, poor direction and cinematography. Predator - Well paced action, suspenseful, multilayered, cult classic. Predator 2 - Expands the mythos but is a little too gratuitous. Predators - Some good ideas within a carbon copy of the original but lacking in any true impact. @ seeyouhicks - there are no female predators in any of the predator films whatsoever.

Alien: Dark ... frightening ... visceral ... set at the RIGHT pace UNLIKE today's standards! Aliens: Commercial Alien 3: Like The Excorcist 2 ... Crap Alien Ressurection: Quite good after 3 but no scare.

Alien- The Masterpiece. My dad took me to see it (bless him, he thought like i did it would be "conventional" sci-fi) when i was 7. Watched it between the fingers covering my eyes. Had nightmares then, still do occasionally. Aliens- Dad again took me. A masterpiece from a different palate. My absolute favorite movie of all time. One of the reasons i joined the Marine Corps. Seriously. Only movie ive ever been to that i was physically tired after it was over. Alien3- Disgusted then, feel the same now. Stupid ideas like killing off one of the best action heroes ever- Cpl Hicks- also Newt and that whole subplot. Cameron even commented on this if i remember correctly. About them killing off the relationships he had built up in the first five minutes. Also, are all criminals in the future Brits? No problem whatsoever with the UK or its folks but Got real tired of the whole "blimey, its a bleedin alien!" routine. Alien Res.- Cartoony shit. Could hardly tell who was getting killed and couldnt care less. Predator- Great concept, excellently performed. The 80's action flick that morphs into S/F horror and leaves lasting impression. Oh and the whole "get to da chappa" thing. Priceless. Predator 2- Meh. Only memorable because of the girl i was with in the darkened theatre. AVP- Good videogame idea turned into cartoony shit movie. AVP Requiem- Moneygrabbing cartoony shit movie. Predators- Actually not bad. I was pleasently surprised. Also the underlying feeling of a hopeless situation that never got resolved was refreshing. Still dont buy running around the fire smacking the snot outta one of the bigger predators though. One thing i wish Cameron or somebody woulda done was do a movie about the Colonial Marines. I used to own the Tech Manual and found a lot of the concepts very interesting.

For me I love those old B scifi movies. They are corny but back in the day they kept you on the edge of you seat.

Galaxy of Terror aired sometime last year on "TCM's Underground" i had never seen it, and was chuckling thru most of it there is an Australian sci-fi horror film that aired way back in the early 1980's on "Elvira's Movie Macabre", i caught the last 10 minutes of the film, it seemed that it was set in either contemporary Australia (or New Zealand..?) the end creature looked like a H U G E dirty uncircumcised penis (literally) and it would devour it's victims whole. really convincing in the "creepy" depo i vaguely recall the film, but i know the final shot was an egg that was birthed out from the creature as it was killed, and the egg was basically a GREAT looking replica of the eggs in the derelict in ALIEN. it looked like they used gelatin to make the egg look organic, and from what i recall, the effect was superb the egg was left in the sidewalk near a street gutter, the final shot gave the impression it would turn into another one of the horrid looking creatures as i described above i have yet to run across ANY clips of that film on Youtube, i do wish i could find out the name of that film, it's been well over 30 years ah well...

Galaxy of terror is very bizarre and interesting. The monsters are very grotesque, but in turn are the result of the own fears of the characters that by projecting them end up personify them with an evil force (in my view converges with the premise of event horizon). Another important aspect is the idea of higher entities that somehow play a kind of chess game with mere mortals. In reference to this I wonder if the Space Jockeys or Engineers are sadists and torturers, gods in style with the cenobites hellraiser (angels for some; demons to others) who get pleasure torturing the participants of the game. Forbidden world seems a cheap imitation of Allen, and there are concepts such as the protoformas which leads me to think that many of the false plots made by fans have been inspired by this premise. However you can see the mutant factor in the storyline, and I believe in Prometheus also, apparently there a little of that in the trailer. Best regards

I always liked "Creature" by William Malone - what a goofy movie that was.

the only good thing of galaxy of terror is the nude woman with the giant worm :p and since it dont pretend to be serious its ok ( and quite exciting too :p )

Although there is no certainty that the bald subject to be a jockey, I hope that if so we may see a disagreeable or frightening mechanism to use the famous suit. I think something like this as a cocoon to a metamorphosis or mutation, if biomechanical then it is a living suit of.

Well if we take into consideration there have been hints by Ridley that Giger did work on a wall mural for Prometheus, it's altogether possible that the mural Giger did was of this piece of work... [IMG]http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n484/ThunderOdin25/giger.jpg[/IMG] This mural of the Alien life cycle suggests that Shaw may indeed be impregnated and will give birth to a seed which will develop within an egg sac that carries a facehugger of some sort. IMO

Yeah I love that mural! Very disturbing. . . But yeah I'm thinking along the same lines, what Shaw is "impregnated" with will be a kinda of pre-facehugger creature, that will in turn have the ability to intake DNA of any creature and alas we have the Xenomorphs. BUT one thing driving me mad is, what would a Xeno look like that has been birthed from a SJ?? As in the Derelict ship, he had a chestburster scar so had to have had one inside him. So could the Xeno's we see just be the SJ-type ones. What if they're others, that we'll see in Prometheus. . .

@GigerFace, very interesting, then it most likely that shaw will give birth to the father of the facehuggers...

@LyleP, I think that if Shaw will give birth to a facehugger that this time be different to those who know they will have special features that pudisen give it the ability to infest a space Jockey. Another possibility is that the Jockey is the true father of the facehuggers and the Xenomorphs... and what apparently comes from the womb of Shaw is something else, perhaps related to the film mutants... who knows...

Why or when will this happen? We clearly know That Shaw and Vickers are in it towards the end (running from the crash).

@red hood, we suspect that Shaw and Vickers running from the crash is near the end and it might very well be so. But if Mr. Scott is truly bringing us back to the film making design of the original, then Prometheus may also have a fourth act?! And in this fourth act we may see Shaw give birth to the facehugger possibly?! However it occurs, somehow Mr. Scott has to get us to the chestbusted Space Jockey, how he does that will be revealed in June!!

could the aliens we've seen up untill now be half breed ie face hugger from shaw/jockey? and we have yet to see a thorough breed ie full offspring of 2 jockeys? im getting confused

Ah, but the egg in the ampule room deepens the mystery. Figure that part out, and the rest should make sense.

I can't see Shaw giving birth to anything Xeno or Facehugger and surviving. Surely she has to give birth to the big blue dude.............. the white worm must be the early form of xeno / hugger. I can't see the biology of the alien coming from a womb when in Alien it rips out of someones chest..........

I did not think that in that scene that she is giving birth in the traditional manner though. what do you mean by "womb" there's no womb birthing here as far as I know?

[quote]what do you mean by "womb" there's no womb birthing here as far as I know?[/quote] I can take a guess how former-troll USHBUCK would of wanted it to happen, LOLOLOL!

Its from the inflating belly scene, the black 'girder' on the right of frame is the giveaway.

It does look like she's giving birth?

I think Shaw will be the "creator"/"mother" of the Xeno species we're so familiar with. . .

It's the scene where Fassbender's robot character becomes a "human man" and is giving Shaw some terrific oral sex.

I agree, it surely is Shaw giving birth to the Monster or facehugger...

This idea of Shaw giving birth to something ..... non Human sounds pretty horrific. But then I'm wondering if Scott has done his utmost to top the alien chest burster from the original? I remember in a short interview he did when this project first started gaining ground. In this he said that this film was going to be 'nasty'. I think we're getting some idea about what he meant now!

Definitly, giving birth to something inhuman would be very disturbing! I can't wait!

Anyone seen that episode of V (the original, 2nd series) where one of the visitors gives birth to an egg?! :-) Bloody stupid! Hopefully we won't end up with something like that! [b]Donovan (helping with the birth) 'it's a ........... it's a .......... it's an egg!'.[/b]

I agree Db73 I think the idea of shaw being the mother of the facehuggers is a bit lame .... i cant belive they hired Lindelof to write something like a 3rd rate sci fi movie of the 80s ....