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Mr.J
MemberOvomorphJanuary 29, 2012You know...I was thinking when watching Alien. The scene where Ripley learns of Special Order 931, leans back to se Ash next to her. He smiles and says, " you know, there's a perfectly good explanation for this."
Hearing him say that tells me the company knew all along what was there..since they were well aware of the organism ahead of time....due in part of the events of Prometheus or another untold story of another ship and ill fated crew.
But...we can assume the company knew all along by what Ash stated to Ripley.
January 29, 2012
i think it was Special Order 937
after seeing ALIEN well over 100+ times,
i would say that from the jump off, Ash knew that they were all just basically
lambs to the slaughter in regards to the entire Nostromo crew being sent to
"investigate" the signal
given that Ash wasn't human, the alien would most likely just leave him be
Ash was aware the entire time,
there are subtle clues throughout the film that suggest he knew about the
special order, but being a cool, calm android, he was able to maintain that
facade until his programming was switched, and he become murderous
January 29, 2012
posted this lastabeek, but i agree. he was about to spill the beans...
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.
January 29, 2012
posted this last week, but i agree. he was about to spill the beans...
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.
January 29, 2012
My apologies Gen...i have been on and off here a lot and do not see all the threads. Of course, it hits me when I am watching the scene and in my head....I would have been, "Hey Ash, before you freak out on me and try killing me with a rolled up magazine....could you explain that too me real quick?"
January 29, 2012
Yeah...when Ash was glancing and watching Kane at dinner was the biggest clue....and letting everything play out and I wonder if the company was monitoring him the whole time...
Kind of giving of what may have been live feed to the company, they could see through his eyes and have video confirmation of all that was happening?
I am sure the company received all the info they needed before he was offline.
January 29, 2012
Even earlier than that: when the Dallas Lambert and Kane go out to the derelict, and the computer deciphers some of the acoustical beacon. Ripley tells Ash that it looks like a warning, not a call for help, then asks (like it's a dumb question) "shouldn't someone go after them?" He replies, "Why?" *stutters a sec* "I mean, by the time you got out there, wouldn't they know if it was a warning or not?" Ripley finds it odd, and the question goes unanswered. They do nothing.
January 29, 2012
Yeah...I almost forgot that scene...
I would say, it was all set up from the beginning. So we know the company or the people remaining around who knew about the Prometheus journey found they had another opportunity to try and get what did not come back successfully first time around....
January 29, 2012
I also remember how he shouts: "Don't touch it! Don't touch it!" as the infant Alien bursts out of Kane's chest, as if to protect it. Then there is a kind of expression that Ash has on his face as the creature runs off, the one that is filled with fascination.
January 29, 2012
anyone notice the color of the acid, when ash goes to remove the facehugger from kane .........green,,,very similiar to the green thing pulled out of the vase in the prometheus trailer?hmmmm
January 29, 2012
@engr
Of course Ash might have implied to Parker
Not to touch the freshborn chestburster
because of the hazardous acid, it is true
That he was rather not wanting the alien
Beeing hurt or killed.
When ripley asked Ash about what he
Has found out about the alien, he obviously
Only tells her basis stuff but he seems to know
Much more about it.
January 29, 2012
Surely ash did know of the order but i think it was a standard hidden procedure ( to retrive exotic things even at the risk of compromising the crew ).
What i dont buy is that the company did know much about the aliens ...to me they were blind like the crew ...they just wanted IT (whatever it was ) .
And Ash of course did know nothing about the xenomorph ...thats why he study it so intensively ,and thats why he make so many errors that can possibly lead to the destruction of the alien too ( cutting the finger could lead to destroy the ship too , also hes totally unaware of the SJ , and hes totally surprised by kane's death )
January 29, 2012
and in alien, dallas states that ash replaced there original science officer just before they left on there mission, so this is all making sense, now ...wow
January 29, 2012
maybe Prometheus will shed light on that very thing regarding how much the company new when it comes to alien.
January 29, 2012
I believe as well, it will open up the door even more for Alien. I have to believe from watching Alien, someone in the company knew of the ship and knew there was something of an organism there....how else would they know to gather a specimen?
Okay, I am thinking too much, lol.
Also, I would think only a hand full of people knew of the Prometheus mission as well as the Nostromo. A high dollar/exploration ship is know but the mission is well kept under wraps and classified. The Nostromo was just bad luck for them...stuck in the middle and well, no one would miss them.
January 29, 2012
you know, I always thought it was odd how quickly Ash responds to Mothers alert to Dallas when they are first eating. I think he did know and wanted the opportunity to get down to business. He exudes a prepared eagerness when he opens that hatch and breaks quarantine protocol.
January 29, 2012
Yeah...I am betting he was updated of what the creature and is how it hosts with a human....there's more here than meets the eye! lol
January 29, 2012
When you program a computer, you are specific. The company, which is 30 years after the fact, lost their multi-billion research vessel and their high ranking company exec, you just don't let these things go. There is someone on the inside, or group or elite people, most likely former workers of the Prometheus Exploration pulling strings....
January 29, 2012
Yeah I think its pretty solid the company knew exactly what was going on from the jump. Ripley's crew was probably the first ship they could get out there after the events in Prometheus. On thing that does confuse me, is that the atmosphere of LV427 in Prometheus seems much different than that in Alien. I'm assuming that the time travel has some role in this. Prometheus crew travels back in time, the space jockey ship crashes, and the planet's atmosphere changes over hundreds of years.
January 29, 2012
Ash and any android in alien franchise except the one in Aliens 4 were Weyland corporate control. Some guy in the corporate can watch what the crew were doing and can control the situation of the crew in a way. Why they need an android anyways in any mission? I just think it's to spy on the crew and give a direction in the corporate`s way. Maybe in prometheus it will show how much control the corporate has on the android or infected android or an android that can control aliens.