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If Shaw had reciprocated David's feelings, I believe things would have turned out differently.

"[David] is looking for love but in all the wrong places." - Fassbender

dk - Ok, but in this particular situation/conversation he has nothing to lose, everyone thinks that he is Walter, that's why I think that he is honest in these lines.

Ati I haven't read the novel but David has never been trustworthy for anything except to ruin/end lives. He is a proven liar. It might be interesting if he honestly tries to help out at some point but no one believes him because of his history. That would be a strange twist.  

Daniell's throat looks sort of strange in the first pic.

David the Puppet Master looks really good.

dk - I'd vote for the possibility that he's telling the truth. He adds that he underestimated her, that seems to be convincing for me.

I wonder if that isn't just David messing with her.

Well, the Predator movies and Firefly are canon, as is RoboCop, and Terminator, and The DCEU and Judge Dredd, so why not include Blade Runner as well.

God forbid

Gavin - Thank you, I have just discovered the facehugger in the image!

daliens and dk - Both ideas are interesting and thought-provoking.

Ingeniero - Glad you like it. And yes, humanity is the perfect headburster.

There is an Alien head at the back of the Engineers skull, behind the human infant. There's also a Facehugger behind the teeth and an Aliens dorsal tube coming at the bottom of the neck. 

In fact looking at this poster makes me think that it was done by the same artist that did the awesome xenomorph and engineer poster that was released just before Alien Covenant.

Alien: Covenant doesn't support symbolism, it uses it; there is a difference.

BigDave It is tough to think of anything much worse than referencing Ripley- then it would start getting into fate/predestination territory. 

Ingeniero, I guess "...would not live to confirm the ship’s arrival at Origae-6..." refers to Yutanis age. Wich should be "considerable", remember the part when he was dining with his daughter and the following "talk" to his dead wife (Covenants travel time + comm delay).

So, humanity is a tumor in the Engineer's head.

Batman & Robin. Two hours of my life I'll never be able to get back. God bless Christopher Nolan for redeeming the Caped Crusader with the Dark Knight trilogy.

This could be a portrait of the LV-223 Engineers before their head burst out except for the type of fetus (which I assumed was neomorph).

Thank you Ati. I love this weird stuff.

Great find Dark Nebula. Thank you.

This ship looks like a rendition of an Engineer lifeboat with larger portions of a crashed ship in the background. Awesome artist. 

Elgyn replies to Wren with a calm, yet defensive tone, "There's no goddamn terrorists on my crew.  Call, what's this about?" 

"I just hope they dont see the Engineers and David as being less important than the Xenomorphs and making a connection to Ripley."

We are on the same page BigDave. I do believe Ridley Scott is developing concepts for the long game and we can be thankful that he said the words "Engineers will be in the next film" or something close to that.

I certainly would trade a mystery revelation related to Ripley for an update on the Engineers, David 8, and Dr. Shaw saying "no, not happening" to David 8 in regards to his plans for her internal organs.

That had to be a spat for the ages. 

The first thing I did with my prequel novel was to display my impatience and thumb through the whole book looking for an interaction in between David 8 and Dr. Shaw Michelle Johnston.

I kept doing this as I read the book just to check and see if there was an Engineer or David/Shaw section.

I figured David 8 and Dr. Shaw had to leave LV-223 pretty quick or come up with a plan to domesticate the Deacon alien. This aspect does peak my interest as far as their story leading toward what we were shown in Alien: Covenant. I would feel a little shorted if what we saw of Dr. Shaw is complete. I guess it is smart to not get too attached to characters in this universe if they all get chewed up eventually.

"For me the most interesting character was Hideo Yutani. He reminded me of a temperate Oyabun, totally different from megalomaniac Weyland."

That sure is the truth Tiwaz.

Hideo Yutani is a fresh breath of air in the story. I certainly love the Peter Weyland character traits and I'm very excited to learn what was meant in the end (page 315) with what Hideo Yutani would live to see (or not). 

This is phenomenal! Thanks for sharing!

Denis Villeneuve is probably the one who should take over from Ridley Scott. But not yet. Ridley Scott has to finish the prequels because, let's agree, at this moment there is no one who can do it better.

Dark Nebula - Great image, great details! I've already seen this image but Shaw in the shadow is a surprise for me. Thx for it!

I like Dominguez' Star Wars art work very much:

We roughly know what transpired between David and Shaw and where it led to. Therefor I didn't miss them. But to each his own.

It reminds me of the Stephen King's Dark Half, with the evil twin left inside the skull. 

Tiwas

Thanks that helps I will pass on this. I think you missed my point about David/Shaw that was the element I think would have been interesting not their absence. 

I hope not ... People are saying the new blade runner is amazing and with alien stuff going down the toilet definitely best to keep them apart. I wonder if Ridley is gutted the new one is so good.... Well at least to the first few reviewers...

I would like to know if THE WALLACE CORP. is mentioned in the novel.

cuponator3000 - Yes! It's more than creepy! :)

I am not even half-way through the prequel novel and it is, like, reading something out of Balderunner. The novel is insteresting, but I honestly don't like the bladerunner feel! I am not a supporter (per say) of the franchises melting together. The Alien canon has been damn fluid for, like, ever! Especially recently. Now, if a Bladerunner/Alien merger occurs, we are in for another shift in mythology and continuity. Well, more the continuity part. 

It's creepy!

IRaptus - Could you please be more specific?

daliens - Thank you for the comment regarding the missing letters!

 'it might be a clue that David's symphony was off'

I agree with you, we should jump to the conclusion you mention.

"The general opinion seems to be its a well written story...", that up for debate. Personally I found it interesting but as an Alien novel it was a bit odd, given the absence of Aliens. For me the most interesting character was Hideo Yutani. He reminded me of a temperate Oyabun, totally different from megalomaniac Weyland.

1) The Prometheus is regarded as missing/lost, so is Sir Perter Weyland. As far as I'm aware the book doesn't address Weylands "knowledge". Moreover the dialogues suggest that even Yutani isn't aware of it, at least not yet.

2) Correct.

As for David/Shaw, their absence didn't make it "interesting" for me. There's however a short episode between Daniels and Walter that had a David/Shaw-vibe to it.

It is not impossible for David to have all available data about primitive lifeforms from Earth. However only the first letters are missing, so it might be a clue that David's symphony was off.

The missing words are not all there is, trilobites might not even (they seems to be classified as relatives to spiders) be crustaceans. And where did David learn ancient Earth biology and why? Logic be damned, it is cool so we keep it.

So this makes it official, we will no longer have bug hunts but rather lobster hunts?

There are some letters missing there: (c)rustacea, (c)hasmataspidida, (p)alpigradi, hexapoda (t)rilobita,  (t)racheata, (p)ancrustacea. I am not sure why so many missing letters in such a short scientific description and how reliable these notes can be. However it seems it's about fossil arthropods with tracheal respiration. 

dk I don't think so. This scene is more like a clandestine operation where Luv is giving Agent K a "little help" because his investigation is of interest for her boss. There is apparently an impending war ready to burst out if certain information obtained by Agent K sees the light of day. But I don't think it would be type of war that you mention.

"So all we were left with was some criminal activity, kidnapping, hostage situations and people shooting at others to try and delay/stop a mission because some crazy dreamer is scared we'll meet aliens who will come to earth and kill us all.

If you're an Alien fan then read it for the small morsels of world building in the universe but otherwise its a kind off out of place story set in the Alien universe." 

This is from a review on Goodreads. The general opinion seems to be its a well written story, Lope is the main character and Daniels is cameo role. However the above remarks suggest that the book is not :-

1) Responding to the disastrous Prometheus mission or any speculations surrounding it or that the newly merged company picked up or responded to Peter Weyland's archives and "what he knew'

2) The only potential thematic connection with the A L I E N universe is the warnings of the vision. 

Obviously the really interesting element of a prequel to Covenant the Shaw/David narrative is entirely absent.

For those who have read it with out spoiling a read are these observations broadly accurate?