Facehugger and the Egg

What is older egg or alien???...hahaha...I think there are many diferent forms and sizes of eggs, facehuggers and xenomorphs depending on host species. Lets take famous Space Jokey, his head is oversized regarding human head so facehugger which perfectly fit on human head will be to small for Jokey's head who have some sort of elephant trunk or respiratory aparatus of some kind. And when you see the size of Jokey himself, he could easely defend himself from small facehugger...or maybe not...posibility are endless :)))

I would like to know is an alien queen involve? What size she will be ? She 's always twice the size as others and the baddest. I am so excited about this movie, this franchise always been my number 1 for sci-fi alien horror. Long live alien. It would be nice to see the first aliens and the original queen. there is endless possibilties for numerous scripts. i feel we only just started now that scott is back.

I doubt an Alien Queen will be involved. Remember, Ridley mentioned how he is staying away from the common "trend" for the Alien, set by James Cameron in "ALIENS". Ridley's focus is towards the essense of the creature itself and some of its secrets. Knowing Mr. Scott, we can only assume that much will be left to our imagination. The film will probably spark some serious debates and questions which will undoubtedly lead us into a highly anticipated sequel. But as far as the whole "Queen, Egg, Drone" scenerio, I feel like Ridley is going to be bringin us something completely new for Prometheus. Something none of us have seen before. Something to re-capture all that is ALIEN.

But you both are right in that the possibilities are endless! Oh and might I say welcome to the Prometheus Online Community!

Greeting Alienites, I like Dule’s question, which came first…the Alien or the egg? That’s always been a legit question…even with chickens. Since I’m a believer in God, I just apply the creationism concept to the ALIEN fiction. Maybe God created the Aliens “on the sixth day”…”Let there be Aliens…” (I hope this doesn’t start an ALIEN fan JIHAD or religious debate) From this perspective, I’ve always just imagined the adult Alien was created first, the creature in turn generated an egg from whatever life form was available. As far as potential hosts for face hugger insemination are concerned, I just figured that the egg and accompanying hugger would just rest in waiting. The adult alien could nurture the egg until the adult alien died. At least this is the way it appears to work in Ridley Scott’s Director’s cut of the original Film. Perhaps in a host-less environment the adult Alien could offer itself as a host to the face hugger’s implantation to facilitate and incubate the newborn. Obviously, this would be a form of Alien “incest.” However, in my imagination, H.R. Giger’s strangely erotic paintings, the Alien’s defense mechanisms, and survival instincts make this a distinct possibility. I never hear or read fans talking about the possibility of an adult Alien getting face hugged, and an infant Alien ripping through IT’s rib cage. Supplemental cast and crew info suggests that the adult Alien in the ’79 release was had a relatively short life span and that it was blackening and dying as the film neared it’s climax. From that point of view, I could imagine the adult Alien sacrificing itself near the end of its life for the “greater good” and survival of it’s species. Especially, if it realized that it was “on it’s way out” anyway. “ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE RECINDED” Neurion

Right...good point and logical one...but watch out, someone may say it is a heresy...hahaha. Anyway, something else intrigues my mind. What kind of alien will appear from that kind of hosting, will that alien restore it's original form and cancel all other genetical influence from previous host (I'm firmly conviced that humanoid alien from movie is product of human host and its not original form of adult alien). I like to think that adult alien is type of worker/warrior class, so there is no need for him to nurture the egg because eggs could, obviously, hybernate by them self for a long time waiting for live host to apear. It is not clearly indicated that adult alien have capacity to lay eggs except latest AvP game where in the end of alien campaign, alien metamorf itself to a queen class...?!? But never mind that game, I dont like that concept, it is too simple. But who knows, after all "they are the perfect organism", adaptable in any way....hehe...

Heresy…what the Hell? I said I imagined it…I didn’t film it! Sheeeesh! Anyhoo, since I’m kind of an ALIEN purist, for me all roads lead back to the original Ridley Scott film. I have a weird ability that enables me to enjoy the hell out of ALIENS, appreciate a lot of ALIEN 3, and for the most part, despise ALIEN RESSURRECTION, without any of three films really impacting or spoiling the themes or accomplishments of the first film. For me the idea of Alien queens, warriors, drones, double jointed legs, fish tails, dog-aliens, Ox-Aliens, acid spitting Aliens, protuberance-less backs, pregnant-belly queen, Dopey, Baby Huey, Resurrection Alien or a freakin’ Pred-Alien hybrid don’t mean “JACK SMACK!” To me all of those versions looked weak, or out right crappy.-----As far as Alien eggs and survival, anything organic needs to ingest sustenance in order to grow, develop, or sustain life. Therefore, the alien eggs would have to be fed or sustained by some system. Whether its adult aliens or some other feeding apparatus or system. In ALIEN and ALIENS, the eggs are shown with a net work of arteries or tubes connecting them at their base, perhaps this is a kind of feeding network…analogous to an I.V. in a hospital patient’s arm. None of the Alien films ever show aliens (in any of their forms) eating or consuming human flesh (or any food). They appear to use the human cadavers for reproductive purposes only. The ALIEN in the first film seems to grow from an infant size to a 7’-8’ tall monstrosity within 24 hours. How does it do that? After Kane dies from the chest bursting, none of the crew are killed until after the Alien is full grown…or bigger anyway. Now as a kid, I always just figured that this was a writing or filmmaking over sight. So, I had to rationalize it in my own head. I imagined that the maturing Alien either raided some of the Nostromo food stores or perhaps was mysteriously able to draw its nutrition from the air in the Nostromo itself…somehow. I guess I probably over think stuff too much. I watched the original “The Fly” film with Vincent Price, when I was a boy. It annoyed me that the man ended up with a man-sized fly head and limb, and the fly ended up with a fly-sized human head and arm. I remember feeling cheated. The machine was a teleportation device that supposedly move objects from one place to another in space. Why then did it change the sizes of the objects on this particular occasion? -----So where do the Alien eggs get their chow? Ash the android says at one point, “Well its adapted remarkably well to our atmosphere, considering it’s nutritional requirements…” Whatever those requirements are! …I like the mystery of it all. I think it's better to keep the audience guessing. The more the films explain…the less "alien" the whole thing will become. ~Neurion

WHOW....easy man...dont angry on me, I just trying to share my thoughts with you all...my english is maybe poor but I realy give my best to express myself...
I didnt want to point to other movies when I speak about diferent sizes and forms of alien creatures (Alien 3 was last degradation of story for me, Alien 4 was just out of any story....creative imagination but not in place)...simply, I belaeve in posibilities prior first movie?!? and posibility to understand creature's original form...secund thing, about eggs...in 1st movie we can see vast areas in Jokey's vessel filled with eggs, hybernating...right??? And "Pilot" himself is petrified or something like that, indicating that he is dead for some time...but egg was realy active when Kane approach it....who nurture those eggs???...tubes and vains connected to what, ship itself, environment??? Don't know...many organisms have capability to hybernate in reality, and I dont refear to bacterial life....I do realy honor your thinking about this subject in general but something else bothers me...what about that "pilot", he is the key to all things...what about his chestburster, I dont belaeve in some sugestions that Jokey's alien layed all those eggs...because it is clear that area with all those eggs is constructed just for them, not random placed. Again, sorry for lack of english gramary and misunderstandment (?!?)...I'm in these thoughts for about 30 years now :)))

Hey Dule, I was also just being sarcastic and joking with you. So, I apologize if I seemed angry. I wasn’t. I guess I just have a sarcastic, smart-ass sense of humor. My English could probably use some polishing as well. Maybe I should add a “HA HA” or a “LOL”, or something like that that in the future. Any ways…back to Alien eggs. Like I’ve posted in the past, the eggs/silo/chamber appear to be in a cavern located below the old derelict ship. And the hole/opening that Kane is lowered into, appears to be acid burned on it’s edges. It does not look like a designed opening in the floor. It looks like an Alien or Aliens acid burned a hole through the floor, through the hull, and perhaps through the top of the hill or mountain that the derelict is perched upon. This opening in the mountain top revealed a cavern in which the Aliens evidently built a hive of some kind. Now that’s one possibility, Another is…maybe the egg chamber was built by the space Jockey(s) since the egg cavern looks like the interior of the derelict vessel, and they were perhaps not crash landed, but had simply landed there in order to drop off or pick up Alien egg cargo…and something went wrong. The fact is that the filmmakers are just making the story up as they go. So they can just develop it in any direction or way they choose. Having said that, I think there are few different scenarios that are possible or likely… 1. Regardless of what Ripley said in ALIENS, the Eggs and Aliens could be indigenous to the planetoid…unlikely though...because it appears to be a lifeless, dustbowl of a planet/moon…essentially a great “rock” in space. 2. The Space Jockey(s) brought the Alien organism to the planetoid to grow or farm them in the silo/hatchery, that they’ve prepared for this purpose. Whether the Aliens have developed through a natural evolution/adaptation or they were engineered by Space Jockeys or others, is still a mystery. __ As far as egg longevity is concerned, we know that bird, reptile and other types of eggs can remain viable for different amounts of time after being laid. And that they are organically disconnected from the layer after they are laid. However, they still have to be warmed and nurtured prior to hatching, or they often fail to develop and die off. Obviously, the eggs in question are “Alien eggs,” and are therefore not necessarily subject to natural earthly laws or limitations. We really don’t know how long the eggs in ALIEN have been sitting there. It could be years, decades, centuries, or perhaps longer…who knows? The Space Jockeys could have been some kind of interplanetary Bio-weapons cartel or dealers. Or perhaps they were subordinate to the Aliens somehow. Maybe they are in fact part of the Alien’s natural life cycle. Could be that Space Jockey’s are the usual and intended host, and that Kane was just in the wrong place at wrong time. In the end, The films images, based on H.R. Giger's work, were simply chosen because they looked really "Cool" and..."Alien", not because they made any made logical sense. Of course that's just my humble opinion. Peace, Neurion P.S. I think that "The Eighth Passenger" is a rather mysterious, slick and Badass title.

Yeaa...!!! Quite right, I have tried to be sarcastic as well...but sarcasam is not just right way for get funny in this matter...Anyway, to put this thinking in real, must say that this "alien" debate engulfed my emotions for about 30 years....! 30 years, man!!! Someone will ask..."...hello, what are you talking about...are you inspired or possessed ???)...Again, sorry for this bad english...just wantto type without translator...(quick way to say what I want) without forgeting original thought and lose the pace....hahahahaha What bothers me is readings about the plot...ccc...!!! NO !!!!.....as oldtime fan of Alien story, I must say, NO !!! As informations go...PROMETHEUS is just another human vessel dealing with some kind of Space Jokey's spawn alien form which will be much larger than ordinary alien........OK that idea but NO not another spacecraft ?!? I belaeve that Mr. Scott have much more creative idea about this...yeaaaaa....I do bealive !!!!! And my personal message to him will go like this: " ...dont do another space, close-environment, claustophobic, spacecraft, low crew member movie...(refering to all post-alien, low budget, B horror movies with exact same story), Maybe I am emotional about this but I want to belaeve that some explanations we need to see....explanations surrounded with mistery which will lead us all to some conclusions.

Hi Guys... First post today. I really think that over the past few movies the concept of the Alien has been diluted so much, It has taken away from the mystery. After all...It is only a movie, So lets go on the premise of Ridleys original. * We didn`t really "see" the Alien for any more than a second or two until the end of the movie. This is a classic horror film technique. You`re more scared of what you CANT see. * It is a stand alone film, set in the same universe, I think Ridley Scott is an intelligent enough film maker...He will be very clued in to not making Prometheus AWARE of its other film family ie. Alien ...(by giving a Nod or a wink for fanboys) I think this ruins films completely and trivializes them and insults the intelligence of the new audience I for one hope to god that he doesn`t try to explain too much, Rather I hope he gets us questioning it even more.

in the book alien, the alien breaks into the storage area and eats some of the food, it could be assumed that is how it got so big so fast..maybe, because in the book they torched the storage room ...and all the remaining supplies. i do agree that it should not be explained too much.

The strongest referrence regarding the aliens as looking like bugs and being bug-like is suggested through the reproductive cycle of the aliens. Which, I admit is pretty cool cause you can't go on a bug hunt without bugs. Also, remember they are the perfect organism so they can probably eat anything (except orange cats). I would like to present the possibility that when Bret turns into an egg on the released directors cut: is also the result of nano technology. I hope that they explore and stress this cybernetic element in the movie. I read that they had the idea of the eggs themselves moving around on tentacles from somewhere else in the ship. Like those giant vents on the sides. It might not be true, I am a space cadet and sometimes hallucinate (don't worry Neurion, I take my meds). If it is true, then where did they come from? Oh, not a Queen or Preditors 8@<8@+*#$! I like this idea of different forms of eggs, face huggers,aliens,dragons,bugs,kittens and venus fly traps; whether it is spontaneous creation or evolution through genetic manipulation coming from a bio-mechanized worlds/environments/habitats? The creatures in Avatar were creative but I would like to see creatures that are really alien! Like things from under the sea for example. Or not looking like anything we have ever seen before. Oh ya and some portals while being spliced in your space suit! It's all about Terror-Forming other worlds and not catching a bad case of space jockey.

Invading targeted planets and fighting wars to clense those planets of it's indigenous life forms has proven to be costly, and tends to create unintended consequences. Here is a better way. Create a species in the laboratory that perpetuates itself. In that very act it destroys it's indigenous host. With some engineered triger that ends the xenomorph's life span, the silent invaders return to find a cleansed planet. This is what Prometheus is about.

If an alien bleeds acid in the forest, does it make a sound? OK Guys & Dolls, ALL Alien movies have been about one thing. Is it gonna get us all before we get it? Right? That is why, I am certain, Ridley said Prom is a stand alone movie etc.....! prom will not be that. I think all of us are on that same page. Prom will be the 2001 of the franchise.

I much as I don't mind blazing off with a kush 2085 space odyssey, I would cross-breed that with some Chronic Galaxy of Terror. Double chambered Snork extravaganga! Medical implementation of much needed pain relief! You know just killing time while time is killing me.

Ruhaniya If you would refrain from these overtly sexual responses about bong experiences to, to I don't know, just stop it! We're trying to concentrate here.

8@<8@ egg after egg after and it was the egg before the alien. Ah you got me on the sex part, perhaps I should have said something else like: when alien bleeds acid in the forest, the sound is like the sizzling of the square peace of paper ( looks like Neurions Pic)...that I put in my mouth with some Pop Rocks. But really your melting and turning into an egg. And I have probably watched Alien too many times!

Ruhaniyaaaaa…You magnificent, medicated Son of a…"Must be the season of the Wiiiiiitch!” That was some of the funniest shite I have ever read. I’m still laughing my arse off. I don’t know if it was a joke or not…but it was GENIUS. I don’t know if you’re inspired, eccentric, or completely cracked;-) but I don’t care. Love your attitude, sense of humor and words. Keep up the evil work! Cheers, Neurion P.S. Thanks for involving my art work in that acid trip of a post.

So what you're really saying is Neurion really stands for Neurotic? neu·rot·ic1     [noo-rot-ik, nyoo-] Show IPA Psychiatry . –adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of neurosis. –noun 2. a neurotic person. Use Neurotic in a Sentence Origin: 1870–75; neur(osis) + -otic —Related forms neu·rot·ic·al·ly, adverb sem·i·neu·rot·i·cal·ly, adverb un·neu·rot·i·cal·ly, adverb

Good call Rick, I think you “hit the nail right on the Head.” Although, it is a bit of a double meaning. “Neurion” is also a quasi-name derivation from the J.R.R. Tolkien “Elvish” dialect of “Quenya.” My actual name is James…or Jacob in Hebrew, which means “supplanter,” “usurper,” or “leg-puller”…courtesy of the Old Testament GENESIS 27:22. So, to make a short story VERY long…Neurion is a kind of Elvish version of Jacob or James. Fortunately, it also corresponds with my neurotic “Self”. And being that the "Myers-Briggs" personality typology sees fit to categorize me as an INFP type…"Neurion” seems curiously fitting. ~NEURION The USURPERRRRR

Makes me wonder how many people will go to watch Prometheus on alien acid for a bout of Neurosis and permanent mystery. Hey if there are no face huggers or eggs in Prometheus, it won't make any difference on mind melting acid. For sure we will not be watching the same movie. I like your new pic! Neurion. Got to have a sheet with multiples of this image. If I get to live to see Prometheus I will definitely be checking behind me.

I think it would be logical that the eggs can recieve sustanance from the ground it sits on. The tendrils that basically hold the egg in place on the ground can absorb nutrients to sustain it. With any nutrient that is absorbed you have to worry about waste or by products. So the blue mist that was seen in Alien could be the by product waste produced by the eggs and also be used as a self generated protective field. So when it's broken the facehuggers come out of hybernation. We are talking microscopic absorbtion to keep these eggs sustained for long periods of time. That's how I would write it if push comes to shove.