Prometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?

Nice! Well spoted

I love that even back then, that far back, there were already little tiny "DNA fragments" of Prometheus already bubbling! Amazing Post Man, Than You Very Much For That...Simply Amazing !!!

That has reminded me of something else. In the Alien 3 novel, the very last words are, "This is Ripley, last surviving member of the Nostromo, signing off" If i remember correctly, it was a transmission picked up by the shuttle console thingy where Ripley got Aaron to scan her and they found the Queen embryo. Now how could the shuttle have picked up a transmission that was something like 60-100 years old? (i'm not sure of the exact timeframe between the end of Alien when the transmission was sent out and the end of Alien 3 when it was picked up) I could be totally falling down the rabbit hole here but an interesting thought none the less.

we do not know how long she was in space for and adrift again, so maybe the transmission was just replaying itself inside a broken shuttle a long long time after it was first picked up by it. we were never given a time frame for how long Newt and Hicks and Ripley were up there this time.

I know that Burke tells Ripley in Aliens that she was in hypersleep for 57 years. All this business about transmissions and distress signals has got me thinking, I dont think Ripley, Newt & Hicks crashed on Fiorina Fury 161 by accident, I think they were sent there somehow by Weyland Yutani. And how the company get to Fiorina so quickly? I hope Ridley Scott decides to do Alien 5, it would hopefully answer questions that Prometheus cant.

I have obtained a free copy of that Novel Online. Thanks to You ShadowCaster. I am most greatful. Cannot wait to read the whole thing now!!!

You are most welcome. As soon as I read it I was like "Whoa wait a minute"! Then I ran to the scanner and prepped the scan. I am very happy that this has spiked your interest and that it has possibly tied some of the stuff together a bit. Now only time will tell!!

About 1:20 min into this interview (see link below) Ridley talks about something from the first movie, don't know if it is this he refers to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeIce4lc8s

Hello. Keen observation I must say, thanx to shadowcaster for that contribution. I, for my part, have only the novel of Aliens, also by A.D. Foster; unspectacularly, this one doesn´t go much beyond the actual plot of the Aliens-Movie. I don´t like his renarrations for the Alien-movies at all; he had quite better stories. To your discovery I must note, that urnes/ampules arent that thin walled as it´s prescribed in this novelisation. As far as I perceive, one of them is unsealed indeed, but it doesn´t seem to be broken-- it´s rather molten. So, no fragility but sensivity to effect of heat, in my opinion. VH. P.S.: I don´t think R. Scott would consider to do an `Alien 5´-Movie for the next occasion executable, but nonetheless this quotion of aerogramm is another good observation. To me, it´s ought to reflect the companies policy of `Weyland-Yutani´ at last, which is shown in leaving special waste behind, also of disused information. ...Of course it´s headed by to bring out Ripleys status to legal discretion, Weyland-Yutanis group of delegates need to be informed at each single step of their interventions.

Yes excellent piece there Shadowcaster. It would be great to read the initial full unadultered script for Alien. Seems still to be bits coming out of it after all these years. I recall reading at the time that a script included a vast pyramid type structure was to be found by Kane Dallas and Lambert and not a ship, and inside would be the Alien eggs and include a seen similar to the jockey. I don't get the molten urn though. Will LV426 now be the main base of the movie?

I like that this is sparking some interesting thoughts. That was totally the hope that this discovery birthed in me. Keep it up, the more thought we pour in the greater the ideas become :)

Originally Alien was to feature a Pyramid which contained urns, but when Giger became involved the Pyramid was changed to the Derelict and the Urns became eggs. We have seen from the released pictures and the leaked trailer that the urns have been brought back. Ridley obviously wants to create a branching franchise that although tied to Alien goes in a different direction but within the same universe, and to do this he has recycled the urn idea and decided to explore the mysterious Space Jockeys.

Interesting post...From the screen shots of the urns I can't help but think this is what the mechanics use to transport the facehuggers. This would make sense to me if they used the xenomorphs as a weapon, create the huggers and store them in the urns until they were needed. The thinking being a sealed container would be more controllable than an egg. But if one was damaged and the hugger escaped, impregnating the mechanic, and the result was a queen this would explain why there were thousands of eggs laid in the ship (Alien) Probably way off.... Ridley Scott's a genious so it could be anything... Don't know about everyone else but i'm loving how secret their keeping the plot line of Prometheus, i'm a massive fan of the Aliens franchise and i'd love to know to know what the story is all about, but at the same time it's going to be a good surprise... That's the trouble with most films now, the studios release 2 or 3 trailers and a featurette before the movie comes out, on top of the detailed plot lines it leaves no room for imagination and surprise, you go to watch a movie that leaves nothing to the imagination. Good on Mr Scott for keeping this a closely guarded secret (even though us fans are desperate to know more!)

To be honest, i'm starting to get a bit annoyed due to the fact that people are adament that Prometheus is not an Alien prequel, thats like trying to say The Hobbit isnt a prequel to Lord of the Rings. I mean, it has Weyland Yutani, Space Jockeys, Androids etc etc. If it can't be called a prequel then what is it? A forerunner?

This is a really interesting find, had no idea that this was in the original Alien story... I can't help but think that the urns are a 'mechanical' way to transport facehuggers, the engineers could create the huggers contain them in the urns and use them when needed, which would be more controllable than using eggs. What if one of the urns was damaged and a hugger escaped, impregnating the engineer, resulting in a queen that could lay thousands of eggs? (Alien) Could be way off, Ridley Scott's a genious so it could be anything... Love that they are being so secretive about the story, building up anticipation for it, Hollywood should take note, nearly every movie released these days has 2 or 3 trailers come out, as well as featurettes and detailed plot lines. By the time you get to watch a movie you know everything about it, there's no surprise or wonder. Hats off to the studio and Mr Scott for keeping tight lipped (Although as a fan I really want to know everything about this movie!)

Yeah its been a masterstroke keeping it secret and all the misleading press releases (prometheus is not an alien prequel,my arse) I think the 'leaked' trailer was an even better masterstroke, its created nothing but excitement,anticipation and discussion/debate

@ Fire to the Gods. The urns will not be used for transportation of eggs, thats what the derelict is for. And the Derelict was purposefully carrying the eggs, as shown by the fact that they were covered by an interactive mist that reacted when Kane touched it. the urns are in fact going to something new and possibly a pre-cursor to the eggs. As for your idea regards the Queen coming from the Space Jockey, two questions negate that possibility - How did the queen last so long until Hadleys Hope was established? And how come the Queen had no features reminiscent of the Space Jockey?

I totally agree with you there Thadus, I had a rant in another post about how saying Promethus isn't an Alien prequel is like saying The Hobbit isn't a prequel to Lord of the Rings. Personally, I think all this business with "leaked" trailers and unconfirmed plots etc is just testing the water for a viral marketing campaign. Its happened with several other films I can think of, why not with Prometheus?

Yeah i totally believe its all part of the marketing

@ Snorkelbottom Hence me saying way off... The derelict was in Alien right, and Prometheus is a pre cursor to the movie, so in Prometheus the derelict could be a working ship, my point is if something were to happen i.e. facehugger impregnating an engineer and the result was a queen, the queen could have laid all the eggs that were seen in the derelict, this would mean the 'working ship' would have to crash into the planetoid toward the end of Prometheus. As for the blue light?? I don't know, maybe it was used over the urns?? I don't know. And I wasn't suggesting the Queen at Hadley's hope came from the derelict... it could have easily come from one of the people at Hadleys hope i.e Newts Dad.. so you could say where was the Alien Queen in the derelict in Alien, to which I would say...I don't know....looked like a big ship...could have been in a part that Cane, Dallas & Lambert didn't search probably years dead as the derelict had supposedly been there years.. Just speculating...