A Better Perspective On The Prometheus Trailer Analysis

Great find [b]@Spart[/b]! That was a great analysis. It had made me wonder...is that SJ skull an actual [i]skull[/i], or just the SJ's helmet? EDIT: I think he also confirms the presence of the Megallan!

Love reading all these different perspectives about the film,makes you wonder if anyone has hit the nail on the head with any of them yet,will just have to wait and see for myself in june,keep them coming though guys great read.

yea that one made me think of all the members here and what they've said so far and what they'll say when they read that, but it's "NachoFlieschman" we have to thank for this one folks, not me.

very very interesting ...i just dont agree on the number of returning vehicles ...we see only one of the big ones ( and 2 smaller ones ) leaving the ship . the other is turned in the other direction and not moving . ... so they return all.

Very, very good read, cheers Sparta.

I'm afraid to say I don't buy much of what the writer, Richard is suggesting. How can you dismiss the planet depicted in the "descent" clip as not LV-426 simply because it has[quote]atmosphere, clouds, water and huge mountains. LV-426 had none of that.[/quote] LV-426 [i]does[/i] have an atmosphere, even at the time of [i]Alien[/i] - it's just not breathable for humans. Moreover, I presume he assumes the waterfall is on the same planet, and yet there is absolutely no indication of this anywhere. Furthermore, [quote]...plus, Ridley Scott has said Prometheus is set 30 years before ALIEN[/quote]; how does that prove this planet is not LV-426? Senseless to be frank. [quote]Many people seem to think that the Space Jockey ship has blown up. But if you look carefully... the explosion is happening behind it[/quote]. I disagree because it is a poorly chosen still-image: the momentum and gravity itself have merely moved the ship beyond the point of the explosion - of course, I nor anyone can quite tell if the source of the explosion was external or internal to the ship. [quote]Note the debris of what I think is the remains of a human ship[/quote]. Pure speculation, of the worst kind: unfounded. [quote]most people seem to think that the humanoid on the right is a Space Jockey. I don't believe that to be the case. Reason? Look at the size of his head (small red circle), now compare that to what the size of a Space Jockey's head would be (big red circle). Even with a helmet on he wouldn't fit in that chair.[/quote] You will note that the "big red circle" is in the wrong place because it is well above the 'screen' of the cockpit and therefore that argument breaks down. [quote]Here we see the Space Jockey ship crash landed on the planet. The arrows point to smoke still pouring out of it[/quote]. Is it? Or is it simply dust being stirred up as the "derelict" slides into a resting position? [quote]the red circles show what I think is wreckage of the human ship that blew up next to the Space Jockey ship in the upper atmosphere.[/quote] More unfounded speculation. I'll leave it at that, and I don't meant to be so robust but my problem is that the arguments just do not stack up in my opinion. I appreciate the piece though because it is stirring up debate with argument and refutation, which is all good.

I'm afraid to say I don't buy much of what the writer, Richard is suggesting. How can you dismiss the planet depicted in the "descent" clip as not LV-426 simply because it has "atmosphere, clouds, water and huge mountains. LV-426 had none of that." LV-426 [i]does[/i] have an atmosphere, even at the time of [i]Alien[/i] - it's just not breathable for humans. Moreover, I presume he assumes the waterfall is on the same planet, and yet there is absolutely no indication of this anywhere. Furthermore, "...plus, Ridley Scott has said Prometheus is set 30 years before ALIEN"; how does that prove this planet is not LV-426? Senseless to be frank. "Many people seem to think that the Space Jockey ship has blown up. But if you look carefully... the explosion is happening behind it". I disagree because it is a poorly chosen still-image: the momentum and gravity itself have merely moved the ship beyond the point of the explosion - of course, I nor anyone can quite tell if the source of the explosion was external or internal to the ship. "Note the debris of what I think is the remains of a human ship". Pure speculation, of the worst kind: unfounded. "most people seem to think that the humanoid on the right is a Space Jockey. I don't believe that to be the case. Reason? Look at the size of his head (small red circle), now compare that to what the size of a Space Jockey's head would be (big red circle). Even with a helmet on he wouldn't fit in that chair." You will note that the "big red circle" is in the wrong place because it is well above the 'screen' of the cockpit and therefore that argument breaks down. "Here we see the Space Jockey ship crash landed on the planet. The arrows point to smoke still pouring out of it..." Is it? Or is it simply dust being stirred up as the "derelict" slides into a resting position? "the red circles show what I think is wreckage of the human ship that blew up next to the Space Jockey ship in the upper atmosphere." More unfounded speculation. I'll leave it at that, and I don't meant to be so robust but my problem is that the arguments just do not stack up in my opinion. I appreciate the piece though because it is stirring up debate with argument and refutation, which is all good.

Look at the high quality clips on the site and you will find some more stuff: -On the "scanner room" clip: 1.) Charlize Theron's character is not sitting in front of the Jockey's head, it is actually a dude (looks like the android as I've read). It actually seems she is the one standing in front of the camera. 2.) If you look at the computer monitor on the right, it seems there is something inside the "head" from the scan picture (in red) 2.) It seems they are applying some sort of coat on the head too. 3.) flat screen monitor design has not advanced much it seems :) 4.) medical staff still wear same attire :) -On the UFO, waterfall clip: 1.) There is a definite structure below the "UFO", kind of hidden behind the mist. -On the Noomi Rapace inside the vehicle clip: 1.) Reflections on the helmet seem to tell a story there. Maybe somebody can analyze them with some software? 2.) Also look at the monitor screens as they seem to be showing camera views of some sort. 3.) Is she is backing up into the ship at that instant? Light is coming from the left. Noomi's pose reminds me of Ripley's "last stand" at the end of Alien almost. -On the 3D map scene, it looks like the android is in the middle. -The Big head looks like it implies some sort of torture with metal wire and has some sort of writing on it.

[b]@Starbeast[/b] I agree with you on the most part. But on the contrary; the debris (on the ground) [i]do[/i] match up with what we have seen of the human ship. [IMG]http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l507/mentos26/prometheus-lifter.jpg[/IMG] Landing gear. [img]http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2011/07/11482010.jpg[/img] Debris.

I am with @Mentos. Maybe the Space-Jockey's ship and the Prometheus crashed each other when they are over LV-426... The link on Studio Gekko has some parts I see and others I don't, but I found it interesting, and another way of studying the trailer

@Mentos, yep that's much better supporting evidence and I'm ready to accept this line of thinking now. Thanks for the clarification! @NachoFleischman, totally agree about the article bringing in new ideas which makes things interesting.

[b]@Starbeast[/b] No problem!

Nothing revolutionary there. Unless your forgot the numerous posts by people including myself that speculated that the planet couldn't be Archeron due to it's atmosphere and surface topography. Various members also agreed that perhaps something happens to the planetoid which completely changes it's environment. In no way am I belittling what's said, I agreed for the most part with the analysis. We also knew that one, or the only Weyland ship was destroyed damaged due to the leaked photo's of the damaged and lone landing strut. The Magellan conjecture also predated this post as we were wondering if Prometheus was like the Sulaco, a carriar or command ship while Magellan was the VTOL dropship, or landing module. I have read some amazing, insightful and thought provoking posts on here, it's just a matter of time before some of those theories are proven valid, or disproven. The only thing that I would say in contrast to the simplification of the plot is that mankind can no longer claim ignorance in the face being confronted with advanced and unknown technology. Even in Alien there was an ISOLATION QUARANTINE that was disobeyed. There are safety protocols that are followed even now at research facilities like the CDC. Hell if you look back even further to the Andromeda Strain. The organism was placed in a quarantine room and examined with scanning electron microscopes and handled with robotic arms. Reaching into an ampule with your bare hands and pulling out a sample potentially contaminating the entire med lab or ship for that matter is just plain folly. Even though it's David the android, unless you are never letting him out of that lab again how do you sterilize a complex piece of hardware without damaging it. You can't autoclave him. I doubt he could be subjected to gamma burst radiation for very long, and emerge intact. I for one wouldn't want a malfunctioning or twitchy piece of hardware along for the ride on an expedition to hell and back. Oh yeah, it's a one way trip.

I agree with most of the statements made in the analysis. @StarBeast, I do not agree with the size of the space jokeys head either. The head goes right under that little arching thing, which is lower into the seat. And the sleeping pods? How do we know they are sleeping pods? But it's a niffty catch to see the "sleeping pods" in the navigation room as well. And I don't think it's the Space Jockey, I think it is the transformation of "Moe" the mutant.

Mutation is a turn-off for me TBH, I can't give a constructive reason but it just doesn't feel right. Personally, I prefer sticking with cocooning and chrysalis as originally specified for [i]Alien[/i]. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what to make of it all.

I don't like the idea of mutations, and the crew turning into the space jock either. Its cheesy. Now mutations as an accident of some kind of bio-mech-nano-DNA-goop can have all sorts of possibilities. Why limit it to the same thing that's been done 100's of times. It could be much more disurbing and deep than that. It makes more sense to me that the SJ was involved in some kind of accident. The Xeno creature either caused it, or was created/unleashed by it. Humans don't have to have a connection at all to the SJ other than maybe we are just another Xeno form dumped or created on another planet, and the Xeno LV-427 monster is something that happened there. Humans and reptilian horror were never supposed to meet. It could be that the derelict ship was some kind of a bomber to unlease the Xeno on humans, but doesn't that seem daft too? Are Xeno really a superior life form? I would say not. They can't travel through space. They are not as smart. They don't use guns, or weapons. Lets face it, what is a Xeno going to do against an F-16, and obviously in the future we've have something more deadly. Xeno could not wipe out humans. It would be one nasty pest to be sure. Hand to hand we don't have a chance obviously, but "they bleed, and we can kill them". And let us not forget Ripley did just fine with the loader robot against a queen (regardless if the "queen" was part of Ridley's original lifecycle concept or not). It stands to reason that the Xeno creature is NOT the weopon, whatever created it could be. There are a lot of worse things that could come out of techology like this.

They can't travel through space. They are not as smart. They don't use guns, or weapons sorry man But I have a problem with at least 2 of those 3. They were smart enough to "Cut The Power" They were smart enough to survive for decades on a barren world. They were going to be smart enough to cut off Ripleys head sit in her chair and communicate in her voice back to earth until FOX stepped in. Just One of them was smart enough to outsmart the Human Captain of the Nostromo and 6 of her 7 crew members. They were smart enough to kill one of their own, so that more of them could survive. I could go on but you get the point by now I am sure... As for traveling through space In Aliens one of their Queens proved that they did that pretty well and killed Bishop to boot doing it. I'm just saying bro :)

There is alot about the "Alien" we don't know...they are smart as we saw in Alien...out smarting Dallas was one part of it...I am sure Scott will explore this creature..I mean, who knows, this creature might descend from a Human...we will not know until June...

"most people seem to think that the humanoid on the right is a Space Jockey. I don't believe that to be the case. Reason? Look at the size of his head (small red circle), now compare that to what the size of a Space Jockey's head would be (big red circle). Even with a helmet on he wouldn't fit in that chair." I agree, but doubt that he is a human mutation though. He is wearing an odd armor-like suit of sorts (looks like scales to me). One of the "sarcophagus" also seems to be open so it would be plausible he came form it. Also, it appears he is heading in a hurry to man the "gun chair"...

...and also, the " Alien" is not a "Xeno"..Scott is keeping far away from Cameron and other director's have done with the creature throughout the movie time line. I believe Scott has made this creature more than a bug on your windshield...no, I believe Scott has a plan for this creature and fill in the gaps as well for "Alien"....Scott has his vision and not the Cameron vision we all come to know...we need to lose the mentality though they were some good films..I believe we have clean out minds and make room for a new installation that will only tie with Alien and nothing more....which will be awesome..