Alien lifecycle

stuartmcc
MemberOvomorphDecember 31, 20112400 Views33 RepliesI've posted this in the ''Fly In The Soup'' thread but I thought I would put it on a seperate thread too. I'm wondering if Ridley Scott is going back to the original Alien film concepts and story, as has been speculated. Remember in the Alien 'special' edition there is the cut scene reinstated where Ripley comes across Dallas cocooned and also what looks like Brett sticking out the top of an egg. I'm guessing that originally the Alien could start some kind of reaction that would transform people into eggs/facehuggers. Brett would have been turned into the egg/facehugger and Dallas would have been the host for the resulting facehugger. The eggs in the cave in the original could be the transformed crew of the derelict. All the crew were changed to the egg state waiting for someone to come to the planet and be infected, then possibly leaving for other planets on whatever spaceship had come to the planet. This would account for no Queen Alien as Scott has stated that the Queen was not his original idea for the Alien lifecycle.
December 31, 2011
I personally do like that. I think the idea of the Alien Queen was a good one in Cameron's ALIENS, which was a total different kind of movie, but I find much more interesting, misterious and scaring that the Alien Lifecycle has no need of another type of creature such as the queen. If you see in a way, you kill the queen, you have not to worry about more eggs, but if any of these creatures can reproduce itself in a way, this would make them a lot more strong, in my opinion.
December 31, 2011
Exactly NachoFleischman. It would make them an even bigger threat than originally thought. There are animals alive today that can reproduce without the need for a partner. Can't remember the correct name for this type of animal though. As soon as I saw the cut scene it became clear what Scott had been thinking for his original idea. I could be wrong however, and I guess we'll have to wait and see if he takes this idea on for Prometheus in one way or another.
December 31, 2011
Insects "stuartmcc", it's insects...
Check out this Old Thread I made.
[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/238]RealAlienLifeCycle[/url]
December 31, 2011
Thanks for the link Spartacus. The ones I'm thinking of can give birth without mating as the creatures have no seperate male and female of the species. They can basically impregnate themselves. I guess the Xeno is a mix of this and the insects in the link you gave. Both concepts pretty disturbing though.
December 31, 2011
I am not sure if there is actually a class of any animal that does it, but you peaked my curiosity on this one again and I am going to research it.
December 31, 2011
The term I think you are thinking of is 'Asexual'; there are no animals but some more baisc organisms like snails, star fish and single cell organisms can reproduce with out mating
December 31, 2011
You're right Bella', more basic lifeforms can do it. I think there is a worm which is one of the main ones that can do this. When I said animals I just meant it as a general term. As I said above, pretty disturbing concepts especially when it's a creature as big as the Xeno.
December 31, 2011
Interesting: reading the WikiPedia I have found lot of asexual life forms. Even one that can alternate between sexual and asexual reproduction: [i]heterogamy[/i]. In low density times, the individuals got asexuals and made clones of themselves. When the population has grown, they switch to sexual reproduction, for the benefits of genetic diversity.
Maybe this doesn't anything in common with the Alien lifecycle... but I find it quite interesting! :)
December 31, 2011
my personal idea of the alien life cycle is that an alien would mutate a person into an egg when there is no queen to make the eggs. that way they can continue the species without the queen until they get one. so both are right. oh and i hate to say it but even though AvP requiem sucked, i like the idea that an alien queen can implant the embryos via orally before it can grow an egg sack of its own. i have always wanted to make my own article about how the alien life cycle works (in my opinion, not fact)
December 31, 2011
The Newborn you mean, they should have called it the abombination. That said I don't think the Queen we saw in Alien Rez was from Ripley 8, I think it was from Ripley 7, the deformed clone in the "shop of horrors" that begged Ripley 8 to kill her. I say this because Ripley 7 had an incision scar on her chest just like Ripley 8, hence the Queen was removed.
That said if the Queen in Alien Rez was from Ripley 7, where is the Queen from Ripley 8.
December 31, 2011
I agree "42" did not like it at all, i remember being pissed off about it when I left the theater. At the same time I thought the film presented some really good and original ideas.
I watched the features on the Quadrilogy DVD, and they talk a lot about it at the end of them, I think they were unsuccessful in what they were trying to do, express the breeding mix, between Human and "Xeno"...it was really badly portrayed, that creature looked right ONLY in the one full shot we saw in which we couldn't see it's face , and it's face made us all mad, just didn't look right at all !!!
December 31, 2011
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/b5historyman/]Alien Life3 Cycle chart[/url]
Here's one I did earlier Invaderzim42. Written after Alien 3
December 31, 2011
Is there a problem? I can read it fine when I log onto the link and chose the 1024 by 768 version. Just click on the picture. If you're interested in a closer look just give me your email address and I'll send the picture to you, no problem
December 31, 2011
If it gave me the option to upload from my hard drive I would. Are there hidden settings or something?
December 31, 2011
It seemed to me that the 'human' birthing method would be a step back in regards to the Alien likecycle. I guess it was the militarys' way of trying to control the Aliens more. They just didn't pull it off in the movie anyway. From what I've said above I guess the lifecycle could be something along the lines of this:-
1/ DNA altering substance. Possibly found in the ampules in Prometheus.
2/ Changes someone/something into some type of Xeno or egg.
3/ Either facehugger comes from egg and infects someone, or the Xeno turns someone into an egg as I have stated was in Alien reinstated scene which then hatches when a host is avaliable.
4/ Cycle continues without the need for Queen or any outside influence. Only one Xeno would be needed to continue species. It would only need to find one person/animal to turn into an egg, then the egg would hatch when a suitable host was nearby.
December 31, 2011
Here is the Alien Lifecycle, known to date...
The Xenomorph is capable of eradicating an entire ecosystem of its indigenous population with a single egg.
This egg, containing a parasite known as the Facehugger, incubating the embryo of a fertile female within, implants the embryo within a suitable host. The embryo develops into a larva known as a Chestburster, from the manner in which it fatally leaves its hosts body. This larval fertile female quickly develops into its immature form, known as the Princess. This Princess, utilising the indigenous population as hosts to incubate embryos via direct implantation, spawns a brood of subservient infertile females, known as Warriors. Once mature, the Warriors begin constructing a Hive.
Once the Hive is established, the Princess develops into her mature form, producing an ovipositor from her abdomen, with each laid egg containing a Facehugger, this Queen now incapable of direct implantation. These Facehugger’s incubate the embryos of infertile males, which after gestating within living hosts mature into Drones, gradually replacing the Warriors.
Once the hive is complete, the Queen can produce a limited number of prized eggs, the parasites within carrying other fertile female embryos. Incubated within incapacitated hosts the larvae grow into Princesses, who are then forced from the Hive to establish their own.