Alien lifecycle

I personally do like that. I think the idea of the Alien Queen was a good one in Cameron's ALIENS, which was a total different kind of movie, but I find much more interesting, misterious and scaring that the Alien Lifecycle has no need of another type of creature such as the queen. If you see in a way, you kill the queen, you have not to worry about more eggs, but if any of these creatures can reproduce itself in a way, this would make them a lot more strong, in my opinion.

Exactly NachoFleischman. It would make them an even bigger threat than originally thought. There are animals alive today that can reproduce without the need for a partner. Can't remember the correct name for this type of animal though. As soon as I saw the cut scene it became clear what Scott had been thinking for his original idea. I could be wrong however, and I guess we'll have to wait and see if he takes this idea on for Prometheus in one way or another.

Insects "stuartmcc", it's insects... Check out this Old Thread I made. [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/238]RealAlienLifeCycle[/url]

Thanks for the link Spartacus. The ones I'm thinking of can give birth without mating as the creatures have no seperate male and female of the species. They can basically impregnate themselves. I guess the Xeno is a mix of this and the insects in the link you gave. Both concepts pretty disturbing though.

I am not sure if there is actually a class of any animal that does it, but you peaked my curiosity on this one again and I am going to research it.

The term I think you are thinking of is 'Asexual'; there are no animals but some more baisc organisms like snails, star fish and single cell organisms can reproduce with out mating

You're right Bella', more basic lifeforms can do it. I think there is a worm which is one of the main ones that can do this. When I said animals I just meant it as a general term. As I said above, pretty disturbing concepts especially when it's a creature as big as the Xeno.

Interesting: reading the WikiPedia I have found lot of asexual life forms. Even one that can alternate between sexual and asexual reproduction: [i]heterogamy[/i]. In low density times, the individuals got asexuals and made clones of themselves. When the population has grown, they switch to sexual reproduction, for the benefits of genetic diversity. Maybe this doesn't anything in common with the Alien lifecycle... but I find it quite interesting! :)

my personal idea of the alien life cycle is that an alien would mutate a person into an egg when there is no queen to make the eggs. that way they can continue the species without the queen until they get one. so both are right. oh and i hate to say it but even though AvP requiem sucked, i like the idea that an alien queen can implant the embryos via orally before it can grow an egg sack of its own. i have always wanted to make my own article about how the alien life cycle works (in my opinion, not fact)

i do not like the birthing idea in alien 4, i thought that was kind of stupid.

The Newborn you mean, they should have called it the abombination. That said I don't think the Queen we saw in Alien Rez was from Ripley 8, I think it was from Ripley 7, the deformed clone in the "shop of horrors" that begged Ripley 8 to kill her. I say this because Ripley 7 had an incision scar on her chest just like Ripley 8, hence the Queen was removed. That said if the Queen in Alien Rez was from Ripley 7, where is the Queen from Ripley 8.

I agree "42" did not like it at all, i remember being pissed off about it when I left the theater. At the same time I thought the film presented some really good and original ideas. I watched the features on the Quadrilogy DVD, and they talk a lot about it at the end of them, I think they were unsuccessful in what they were trying to do, express the breeding mix, between Human and "Xeno"...it was really badly portrayed, that creature looked right ONLY in the one full shot we saw in which we couldn't see it's face , and it's face made us all mad, just didn't look right at all !!!

[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/b5historyman/]Alien Life3 Cycle chart[/url] Here's one I did earlier Invaderzim42. Written after Alien 3

even at full magnification the print is too small to read....sorry.

Is there a problem? I can read it fine when I log onto the link and chose the 1024 by 768 version. Just click on the picture. If you're interested in a closer look just give me your email address and I'll send the picture to you, no problem

why not just post the image here using the image icon in the reply box

If it gave me the option to upload from my hard drive I would. Are there hidden settings or something?

Just post it on an image hosting site like photobucket

It seemed to me that the 'human' birthing method would be a step back in regards to the Alien likecycle. I guess it was the militarys' way of trying to control the Aliens more. They just didn't pull it off in the movie anyway. From what I've said above I guess the lifecycle could be something along the lines of this:- 1/ DNA altering substance. Possibly found in the ampules in Prometheus. 2/ Changes someone/something into some type of Xeno or egg. 3/ Either facehugger comes from egg and infects someone, or the Xeno turns someone into an egg as I have stated was in Alien reinstated scene which then hatches when a host is avaliable. 4/ Cycle continues without the need for Queen or any outside influence. Only one Xeno would be needed to continue species. It would only need to find one person/animal to turn into an egg, then the egg would hatch when a suitable host was nearby.

Here is the Alien Lifecycle, known to date... The Xenomorph is capable of eradicating an entire ecosystem of its indigenous population with a single egg. This egg, containing a parasite known as the Facehugger, incubating the embryo of a fertile female within, implants the embryo within a suitable host. The embryo develops into a larva known as a Chestburster, from the manner in which it fatally leaves its hosts body. This larval fertile female quickly develops into its immature form, known as the Princess. This Princess, utilising the indigenous population as hosts to incubate embryos via direct implantation, spawns a brood of subservient infertile females, known as Warriors. Once mature, the Warriors begin constructing a Hive. Once the Hive is established, the Princess develops into her mature form, producing an ovipositor from her abdomen, with each laid egg containing a Facehugger, this Queen now incapable of direct implantation. These Facehugger’s incubate the embryos of infertile males, which after gestating within living hosts mature into Drones, gradually replacing the Warriors. Once the hive is complete, the Queen can produce a limited number of prized eggs, the parasites within carrying other fertile female embryos. Incubated within incapacitated hosts the larvae grow into Princesses, who are then forced from the Hive to establish their own.

The Newborn was a mistake, it clearly states in the film that the Queen had too much human DNA in her genome, another reason I suspect it was born from Ripley 7, not Ripley 8.

Sounds right Snorklebottom if you go by the Aliens Queen theory, but Ridley Scott has stated he didn't envision a Queen as part of the Alien lifecycle which is why I thought it may be the cycle I stated above, or story concept as my original post. I just think Scott is heading more towards his original vision of the story.

i was actually just making a very early one on paint, but with pics instead of words, should have it up in a few hours :D

Well here was my 2 cents on the matter : [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/433]Alien Life Cycle[/url] Not asking you all to agree I know it is controversial just thought I would share.

Nice theory Biomechanic. Shaw giving birth to the first facehugger or indeed a version of the Xeno is quite plausible. I guess any of us could be right. Or indeed we could all be wrong and Scott has come up with something that will knock us sideways.

That is assuming the Aliens will feature in Prometheus, which I don't think they will. That said the original idea of using hosts in pairs (1 into an egg, 1 as a host for that egg), may have been their original intention, but it was never actually explained as such at the time, which "essentially" gave Cameron free reign with the Queen idea. I know a lot of people may not like the Queen idea because they feel it lessens the Alien into an insect. Is that necessarily a bad thing. Insects outnumber us at least 1 million to 1, imagine if the where 8 feet tall with acid for blood and used us to propagate. that a nice image. One thing many seem to overlook, what happens when the Aliens run out of suitable hosts.

Snorklebottom. I guess we assume that they would be looking for human hosts, but as in Alien3 they could no doubt use any living creature as hosts resulting in different types of Xenos. Assuming the creature they choose is large enough for the facehugger and to accomodate the chestburster. If they managed to get to all populated planets and use up the hosts I guess they would perhaps have fulfilled the point in them existing. Wiped out all other life. If indeed they have any kind of 'mission' to fulfill. Ultimately could just be an experiment gone wrong.

I don't think biomechanoids or facehuggers will feature in Prometheus. This won't be the normal facehugger it will be a protoform of it anyway. I think Shaw knows something is growing inside her and allows it to happen because she has faith in God. She has a conversation about it with her love interest Holloway and he wants her to abort it but she refuses. I don't think we will see a facehugger attach itself to the space jockey that is already implied. We have seen still with Shaw being scanned. We may just see from Shaw's scanner image what looks like a facehugger in her stomach, she gives birth and that is the last we know of it in the Prometheus movie. Maybe it is implied that Vickers and David are keeping it in stasis as the rest of the movie plays out. Maybe it is released or escapes at near the end of the movie on to the derelict.

Could also back my theory that the Aliens were created by the Space Jockeys as a means to artificially create extinct events on prehistoric planets to encourage the evolution of intelligent life. BM, I really don't think shaw or anyone is going to give birth to a xeno or any form of facehugger.

Nice one Biomechanic. There are those saying that the last 8 minutes or so would link to the original film. This could be the reveal of the 'baby' or indeed as you say, showing it on the derelict. I guess we wouldn't actually have to see it attach to a space jockey to know what was going to happen.