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MemberOvomorph01/1/2012Ridley Scott’s Comments On Making An Alien Sequel/Prequel From 1979 thru 2003.
"In many respects it’ll (the sequel) be more interesting (than the first one) from a pure science fiction stand point. We’d get into speculative areas, dealing with two civilisations." –Cinefantastique (1979)
This is pretty much a given now in what to expect in Prometheus.
"The alien form lived to reproduce, and in reproducing took on the characteristics of its last inhabitant and its new host. "Thus the alien on board the Nostromo had the characteristics of space jockey on the derelict and Kane. If the face hugger had hit the cat, it would have been a hybrid of the space jockey and the cat." –Interview with James Delson (1979)
With this in mind, will we see the alien in its original and pure form as Scott suggests it has?
"The sequel should explain what the alien is and where it comes from. That will be tough because it will require dealing with other planets, worlds, civilizations. Because obviously the alien did come from some sort of civilization. The alien was presented, really, as one of the last survivors of Mars- a planet named after the god of war. The alien may be one of the last descendants of some long-lost self-destructed group of beings". –Interview with Danny Peary (1984)
Here he touches on ideas of a lost alien civilization. On a related note, he mentions a civilization with an uncivilized behavior in 2011.
"I always wanted to go back and make an Alien 5 or 6, where we find out where they came from and go there and answer the question, who are they. Mars is too close so they can’t be, they can’t be gods of war, but the theory was, in my head was, this was an aircraft carrier, a battlewagon of a civilisation, and the eggs were a cargo which were essentially weapons. So right, like a large form of bacteriological stroke biomechanoid warfare. Once again you can not, you just can not beat this score, it is great. And again the set is pretty spectacular really. This space jockey is, I’ve always thought was the driver of the craft who is now after many ages, of course it would be dustless but has started to look like a perfect example of Giger’s mind which is ‘where does biology end and technology begin?’ because he seems to have grafted the creature into what was essentially was let’s say a pilot’s seat. But clearly from here, this is where the transmission would emanate from, probably in an automatic transmission, so this creature had obviously experienced maybe one of the eggs had been disturbed and a creature had got out, had attacked the rest of the crew, don’t ask me where they got to, but he’s pretty gruesome, but let’s say he’s part of the civilisation he came from and now had melded into his seat" –Commentary from Alien 20th Anniversary DVD (1999)
Now he’s getting more detailed in his explanations. Also, to my knowledge, this is when he first speaks of the idea of the eggs as a biological weapon. Prior to this, Scott has held the view that in Alien the eggs were the morphed crew members of the derelict ship.
"Earth would be interesting, and there is talk about it… I say we should go back to where the alien creatures were first found and explain how they were created. No one has ever explained why. I always figured that a battleship carrying bio-mechanical organisms that could be weapons was sent into space with some space jockey who didn’t last long." –Interview with Cindy Pearlman, The Chicago Sun-Times (2002)
"I think the Space Jockey is actually the pilot, and he’s part of this military operation – if that’s the word you can apply to his world, and therefore this is probably some kind of carrier, a weapon carrier, a biological or biomechanoid carrier of lethal eggs, inside of which are these small creatures which will actually fundamentally integrate in a very aggressive way into any society or any place they’re dropped."
–Commentary from Alien DVD of Quadrilogy Set (2003)
"Fox and Sigourney Weaver have contacted me, they want to conclude this series with the one who has begun it. [...] But there are not even serious talks. I don’t really know what I could do unless I go back to the questions stated in the first episode. Where does the crashed ship on the planet with this mysterious extra-terrestrial come from ? We could wonder whether massive destruction weapons (which could threaten the Earth) had been used or not. It could be inspired by “The War Of The Worlds”."
-DVDrama (original interview in French, 2003)
The last three quotes, when pieced together, tell of space jockeys that drop alien eggs like bombs in order to clean up civilizations.
These ideas aren’t anything new to the prolific Prometheus speculator (among others). But for some, it offers a glimpse into where the ideas come from and how they might play a part in Prometheus.
That is if Ridley Scott doesn’t change his mind.
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Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012very interesting ...that tell how much Scott was interested in the Space Jockey ...

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012amazing details there.... like the Aliens homeworld being Mars, but I think he might change that one and even hints at changing it later on. !!!

Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012Yes, thanks for posting this. I have also noticed he talks with much interest about the original Space Jockey and how the derelict crashed. That is why I can't imagine he would settle for a story about that guy's cousin and another ship.
I also noticed in one interview he starts up passionately about the Chariots of the God's stuff and aliens giving mankind some help so much so that the interviewer thought he was rambling on. He obviously is going to incorporate that stuff too.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012" a guys cousin and another ship" Just LOL !!! so funny the way you put that, and yea man!

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012Interesting stuff indeed. If as is said the Alien takes on the form of it's host and the one that got loose on Nostromo was half jockey and half human. What then is the original Alien reproduction cycle? What did the first Alien look like and who produced the egg?
What comes first the chicken or the egg?

Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012it come first what the "creator" ( God , Nature , Chaos , Zeus etc etc ) choose .

hermenauta
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012Given this background, it´s easy to imagine that the exploding ship in Prometheus trailler should be going to Earth as some sort of chastisement mission but was destroyed by the humans. Probably it will be Shaw that will set the warning signal that will be heard by Nostromo in Alien...

Robotpo
MemberOvomorph01/1/2012As opposed to George Lucas, who is full of sh!t, Scott actually seems to have had a pretty good idea of what his follow-up to Alien (and exploration of the Space Jockey/Alien's origin) would constitute since the beginning. Thank Cthulhu his vision's finally going to be on the big screen in only just over 5 months...

SubterraneanHomesick
MemberOvomorph01/2/2012Now this is really interesting, but I think it’s dubious when it comes to an important aspect: do the eggs and the Xenomorph incorporate SJ’s DNA?
From RS’s statements, I see 2 (apparently mutually exclusive) alternatives - let’s see if I can explain my doubts.
#1: RS: “one of the eggs had been disturbed and a creature had got out and attacked the rest of the crew”. Then the eggs were bioengineered by the SJ, using whatever DNA - bear in mind: they don’t have to incorporate SJ’s DNA. One of them hatches, kills the pilot SJ and the others. SJ’s chest-bursting generates a creature that we never actually get to see in Alien. The Xenomorph that we know incorporates Human DNA, but doesn’t have to have SJ’s DNA.
#2: RS: “the alien… had the characteristics of SJ on the derelict and Kane”. Then some kind of bioformer or proto-alien was engineered by the SJ. It gets loose inside the derelict and impregnates the SJ. A creature chest-bursts and somehow generates the eggs (perhaps cocooning the rest of the SJ crew, although that would have to be a big crew). Then the Xenomorph that we know does incorporate SJ’s DNA (as well as Human DNA).
Do you agree that there’s a contradiction in these statements? Any way to conciliate them? Any thoughts?

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph01/2/2012Robotop - George Lucas wrote the full star wars saga in the late sixies and made the incredible decision not to air them until the technology existed to visually create exactly what he wanted. The last movie produced in 2008 I believe was written in 1968. The full saga generated something in the region of $5 billion. Not bad I'd say.

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph01/2/2012Baldas this is one of the great mysteries I can't wait to be cleared up. I reckon the jockeys put the eggs in the ships hold but there is either an accident and one gets loose, or there is a stowaway (Shaw or Vickers) who set off an egg.

Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/2/2012I think we may have to deal with something that is both great and both a cancer ...we can have a "green jelly" or whateved that absorb the dna of whatever it come in contact to allow himself to resist to some exterior conditions ...
example ..green jelly plus monkey = men
example green jelly plus whatever plus man = Xenomorph
example ..green jelly plus david = biomechanoid
example .. green jelly plus some creatures we dont know = face huggers

Robotpo
MemberOvomorph01/2/2012Micro changes in air density, that was Lucas' version. In reality, he made it up as he went along (hence why the prequels had no story and no continuity with the originals). Check out the link below for what actually happened. VVV
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Star-Wars/dp/0978465237/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325543013&sr=8-1]The Secret History of Star Wars[/url]

Robotpo
MemberOvomorph01/2/2012Frantz, yes, the "life cycle" hinted at in Prom thus far is very intriguing! I wonder if it could be:
Goop + Crew = Original Gigeresque/Lovecraftian Monstrosities
Goop + Engineer (or David) = Proto-Alien?
Time will tell, but unfortunately the film won't be able to include every possible scenario (unlike our speculation)! :P
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