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MemberOvomorph01/10/2012Zeta II Reticuli is the star system of LV-426. If you have ever studied UFOs and conspiracies, you will have heard of the Betty and Barney Hill incident. Both were abducted by gray aliens with large eyes that did experiments on them.
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These beings showed Betty a starmap that she drew from memory. Scientists that analyzed her drawing determined that the map was centered around Zeta II Reticuli, indicating that the beings were from there.
This has always been an Idea I had for an ALIEN movie, that the space jockeys and the gray aliens were in a conflict and the gray alien homeworld was destroied by the space jockeys, possibly by using the "Xenomorphs" as biological weapons or something else.
I posted this because I am not aware of anyone else that has made this connection and just wonder what you all think about something like this?
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MemberOvomorph01/10/2012Its an intersting observation, and I like the way there is astronomy involved! However I doubt Ridley would link Grays with Prometheus.
The whole ufo scene where grays probeulate innocent trailer park folk is a million miles from the Alien universe in my opinion. I think we have a more hard sci-fi story on our hands (well I hope).
But you never know, you can't rule anything out - if anything, its a clever link and interesting to speculate about the galactic neighbours!

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MemberOvomorph01/10/2012Thanks! I agree it would really take the story a different direction, but done well, the grays could be almost as erie and mysterious as the SJs are. Ancient astronauts/grays and UFOs tie in with the Illuminati which also tie in with secret societies which many believe are the ones that are really in charge, perhaps even at WY. If that is true, though, the story could be taken over by the whole conspiracy theory spiel. I'd enjoy it as a conspiracy theory enthusiast, but others may not. Of course, Ridley Scott could merely allude to this and I'd be quite happy!
I envisioned the whole story where the SJs were in 2 warring factions one of them was part of a large federation that created humans to be slaves on Earth where they were mining. These SJs couldn't live comfortably on Earth so they created a hybrid race that eventually started the secret societies used to controll the masses...
This stuff really rights itself! HAHAHA!!!

Manndroid
MemberOvomorph01/10/2012I, too, enjoy conspiracy theories in fiction. I also find cryptids to be a fun piece of unnerving folklore.
However, I don't think the Alien franchise would benefit from tying into an already-saturated genre. After all, it pretty much separated itself from the pack to begin with, and nowadays, conspiracy plots tend to cheapen a film. I enjoyed the first Deus Ex as much as the next guy, but that didn't share the same appeal of an Alien movie.
One thing I always loved about the Hill case was that that scientists 'analyzed' the map by.. What? Placing it up against a star field and looking for a near match? You could match up that configuration with countless portions of our night sky. Hell, it becomes even easier if you look through a decently powered telescope - it's literally an ocean of stars up there. I also like the stories where the Aliens tell folks what constellation they're from, as though the position of stars were the same where they come from... I guess the subconscious doesn't take the concept of parallax into account (and by attributing it to an 'experiencer's' subconscious, I'm giving maybe too much credit in most cases.) ;)

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MemberOvomorph01/11/2012True, this kind of thing would end up making it a political thriller or something with the aliens all tied up in it. It is an interesting thing that ridley picked zeta II reticuli and also interesting that scientists that 'analyzed' the map did as well. Wonder what that could mean!!
I know there's life out there, I just know that we probably don't want to encounter it, just as it probably would not want to encounter us... t'would end badly, I'm afraid...
"Most cases"... sounds like you are not a complete skeptic, right?

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MemberOvomorph01/11/2012curious, although the Space Jockeys aren't indigenous to Zeta 2 Reticulli. In fact, in the original A L I E N, Lambert actually says, when they're trying to find out where in the hell they are:
"I've found it. Just short of Zeta 2 Reticulli".
So, that means, the planet-LV 426-was in another planetary orbit around a gas giant with rings. The Derelict crashed on the planet that was [i]near[/i] Zeta 2 Reticulli. Since the Derelict was broadcasting a signal on a short-bandwith cycle of 12 seconds on a radiowave frequency, it seems likely that it was from another part of the galaxy. If it wasn't, then there would be little left of it, since the Space Jockeys wouldn't want anything to do with any other superior-intellect beings messing around in their backyard.

Manndroid
MemberOvomorph01/11/2012@msg - I'm very much a skeptic, but the responsible kind; I do have an actual hobbyist fascination with ufology, cryptozoology, and the paranormal, but I'm grounded in the realm of probability - in the absense of proof of something being extraordinary, I will chalk it up to natural phenomenon before I jump the boat, which I think is a natural human yearning - to [i]want[/i] to believe. As of yet, I don't think any singular case I've heard has made me believe anything otherwise, simply that it's yet unexplained.
Anyway, getting back to the subject of the film, I can see Zeta 2 Reticuli being chosen as an homage to fringe culture. The Hill case is probably the most famous of UFO lore. However, as the previous films kind of went out of their way to be fairly original where the aliens are concerned, it'd seem out of place - given Scott's sensibilities - to tie it all to Cold War-era pop culture.

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MemberOvomorph01/12/2012"Just short of Zeta 2 Reticulli". I guess I missed that one... whoa! HAHAHA! I always figured the derelict was a long way from home and when she says "Just short" that the ship was approaching Zeta II Reticuli where the source of the signal was which also happens to be where those pesky greys used to live before the Space Jockeys destroied their homeworld...
Manndroid, I am pretty much the same, just a hobbyist, you might say. Mostly UFOs, the other stuff is either way too weird or just too boring... It's all entertaining though you know?
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