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Gehirn
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012After staring at the alien ship in the trailer, I just noticed something very subtle about the BIG BANG when it "collides". There seems to be another fire spewing some very black smoke from the middle of the ship before the vessel can even rotate far enough for that fire to be related to the bigger explosion.
It's very hard to see it in a still picture. But when you see it in motion, the speed of the black smoke reveals something unrelated to the BIG BANG, yet that smoke does extend back to where the bigger explosion came from.
When the ship is on the ground, it doesn't give away too many clues, either. The part where this other fire should of been coming from is a bit darker than the other side of the ship but can't really be confirmed as fire damage because of all the smoke in the way (generated from hitting the ground).
Never the less it makes me wonder, if there was a second fire, was it internal or external? David (the you-know-what) appears to be on the alien ship at some point. And what would this suggest about his motives? Could he have caused the second fire? If this is true, it would have implications for Vicker's motives as well. Could they both have the interests of their crew at heart in stopping an evil menace?
Or maybe they are both so devoted to the company, they are doing it out of greed. They want something on the alien ship (or at least Vickers does, Dave does what he's told). After David fails to bring it down, Vickers starts to panic and heads for her own ship's self destruct as the alien ship gets closer. This might explain what poor Janek is looking at with red lights in front of his face. He's watching Vickers on camera flick the switches as the ship has its coolant shut off!
This would also explain why Vickers is the only one running to the escape pods and why there doesn't seem to be any real collision damage on the alien ship's arm when it hits the planet's surface.
Thoughts?
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danrald
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012@Gehirn,
You are 100% correct! For another reason other than the trailer, I specualte another explosion in the sky. In addition when the Jockey ship lands it seems like Shaw is trying to get in.. I mean, what would she be doing out there so close to the ship after it crashed. So maybe someone is in the ship that they need or are concerned about..
As well, I think there maybe a second Space Jockey ship.. The theory is that the ship "rolls", but it seems like it would break appart..

Gehirn
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012LOL Frantz! I just figure David has to be looking at the star map for a reason. If it's in their interests to know where the alien ship is going it might fit in with when the ship is actually moving. And to have Vickers as part of that process is just too saucy to not draw a link between them. The second fire is just a neat way of fitting it in, but I'm sure it's there! Whether internal or external.
It's also burning so close to what looks like a navigation deck of sorts and where we would assume the pilot's room would be from watching Alien. We at least have the knowledge that David was in that room at some point (assuming there's only one alien ship of that type in the film).
@danrald,
The [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/1015]thread about the rolling[/url] was very good. The dent in the mountain sold me. In fact that's why I started this thread, I was looking at the ship angles for so long then I noticed, 'ooh, fire'.
[quote]"In addition when the Jockey ship lands it seems like Shaw is trying to get in.. I mean, what would she be doing out there so close to the ship after it crashed. So maybe someone is in the ship that they need or are concerned about.."[/quote]
Maybe that's the same reason why she runs into the PATH OF DOOM. Who is the blonde running with Shaw? Is that Vickers? Well there's your ending right there. Ship crashes, Shaw freezes, Vickers' pod lands in the path of death, Shaw goes to help her out, both freak out at a loud noise and hey hey here comes the giant horseshoe!
That's where the speculation ends, and the lesbian romance fan fiction between two stranded females begins...

Korpen
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012This forum is like a detective agency, investigating a mystery. Analyzing possible evidence over and over again, trying to solve the puzzle.
I LOVE IT.
Been on here for about one and a half month, just reading all the posts and discussions.
looking forward to prometheus! been in love with Alien ever since i was a child, and finally, or hopefully, theres a worthy follow up to it.
cheers to all you private investigators out there, keep up the good work!
(hope my english doesnt suck, im writing from denmark).
"Alien felt epic.
Prometheus IS epic"
/Ridley scott
ALIENS THINK HUMANS ARE ALIENS

danrald
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012@Gehirn,
Blessed... all that crazy specualtion about rape, etc.. mear fodder.. the first star baby is created by a lonely planet romantic lesbian affair along with the ampule juice..

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012That whole post went right over my head, wait, I have to read it again, ya know what...?...that's speculative yes, but a pretty darn fabulous brand of speculative when you think about it. Great Job man, it's gonna be fun to see if you're right On June 8th.
[size=200][b]148 days 45 minutes 37 seconds Until The 9 PM premier Of Prometheus in Montreal On June 8th, 2012 !!![/b][/size]

danrald
MemberOvomorph01/12/2012Ya, we should have a clock on here that counts down the seconds... I'm in Baton Rouge, and I doubt they will have a 9pm showing .. I'll just have to wait an extra day..

Gehirn
MemberOvomorph01/13/2012Check out the star map again:
[url=http://i.imgur.com/x3CwA.jpg][img]http://i.imgur.com/x3CwA.jpg[/img][/url]
Look at the ceiling. That's the middle of the ship, close to where the fire is raging.
[quote]Been on here for about one and a half month, just reading all the posts and discussions.[/quote]
Hi Korpen, I like your avatar. Always found Communion to be a very creepy film. I love seeing Christopher Walken act, he's such a unique kind of person.

Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph01/13/2012Hi Gehirn,
Have you seen this: [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/468&page=5]Forum Post[/url]
I have some pictures and an animated gif there you might be interested in.

Gehirn
MemberOvomorph01/13/2012That's it!
[img]http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/bongobat/Fun%20on%20the%20Internet/derelict.gif[/img]
You knew where to look too, Bio. There's so much smoke everywhere even when it's on the ground. It's a shame the shot with Shaw looking up is on the belly-side of the ship.

Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/13/2012which is the front of the ship ? it was hit in the front or the rear ? We are sure that the horns point in front of the ship ( maybe are "tails" ? ) ?

Gehirn
MemberOvomorph01/13/2012I think the two tails and three hoohoos are in front with two big circular vents on the back. Top part is easier to define, should be the big round dome visible in the middle.
The really neat part is, if you believe the jockey room is the same as the star map room, the alignment of the "big gun" is pointing towards a perfect take-off position. I think the ship tilts as it ascends ("front" pointing at an angle towards the sky), with the "jockey" looking directly upwards (this was theorized years ago for Alien's derelict).
edit: Another possibility for Shaw standing in front of the ship's belly is that she is trying to meet up with the others on the ship (or get off it) before the ship prepares for take-off and the legs lift into the sky.

CBT1979
MemberOvomorph01/13/2012Lesbian astronauts creating the first
star baby with the goo?
wow, that sounds epic XD
But i doubt Fox would allow that.
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