Something that bothers me about the facehugger.

No kidding pax. You might be able to get your hands on it, but it still slips through... Like drowning almost. Then you wake up and think you survived something that should have killed you. Time to celebrate! Then you get stabbing chest pains.... Talk about a bad day!

Seeing as the facehugger melts through Kane's helmet in 'Alien', the 1ST and thus ORIGINAL film with the ORIGINAL idea, then I think I have to say no, I don't have a problem with it....and furthermore, I would then say that I have a problem with Cameron's rewrite of the concept in 'Aliens'.....One of the most imporant things about making any sequel is the integrity of continuity from one story to the next...The failure, and it is a failure, to maintain that continuity and thus, the integrity of the story, falls sqaurely on the shoulders of the sequel's writer, not the original's.

and btw there are no "melting" signs on kane's face ... just the ones of a very strong "grip" .... we can say that something so strong to break the glass of an helmet should not be stopped so easily with hands ...but are just movies come on ...

I always thought it was a matter of not damaging or causing injury to the host. It burned through Kane's faceplate, but didn't cause any injury to his face when it actually landed.

I agree with craigamore. Alien was the original, and as good as some of what followed were, there were some huge variations from what it began as. Some definite compromises afterward for sure. I'm probably gonna catch grief for even saying this- but I've always viewed what came after Alien as something like a "spin-off", and not what was originally envisioned by Ridley. There were SOME great films, but nothing compared to the first. I hate the term "canon", because it's fiction- but what was original is what worked best. Aliens was a great action movie, but it would have been just as good with another group of monsters. They just weren't the same thing.

Alien was dark and the mythos was even darker. Aliens was way different and great as an action movie but as the series progressed, the darkness was taken away and ruined by people who had no idea what they were doing. I believe that FH could control the acid and secret the, just enough to get to the host without damaging him...as we saw with the melted helmet of Kane's...

Interesting opinions... I never really noticed this... I think maybe once ripely got it in her hands, it was easyer to deffender herself. When Kane got facehugged, he never got a chance to get a grip on it... Just a thought...

as he said frantz, the facehugger was able to pass through the glass of a helmet. Curiously in aliens we see one in captivity inside a tube of glass similar to the Star Wars movies bacta tanks. However we see that the creatures are completely trapped. Certainly in aliens do not respect the original canon of Ridley, but is due in large part to the fact that it is an action film where we needed to see the marines kicking ass aliens. But obviously the official canon is established by Ridley...

I should have mentioned this earlier. In no way am I being sarcastic or degrading the original post. It's just my opinion. I mean NOT to offend anyone... It can replace it's cells with silicon-based cells, just because it works better that way in a new environment, all the while providing it's 'host" with whatever it needs to survive the impregnation process, it's blood can eat through steel and all kinds of composites, it can break through bones and flesh while still relatively tiny, it grows to seven feet in a matter of hours, and it eats people while excreting enough super glue to build a hive the size of Home Depot. Yeah, I can except it secreting whatever it needed to for getting in a helmet. Cameron just made some compromises to make his scenes work for his version of the creature. Aliens was a good movie, but NOT like the original. Apples and oranges.

The way I always saw it was that the reason the facehuggers couldnt escape the tanks in med lab was because of the stasis field that surrounded it as I do recall this "field" being mentioned a few times as well as in the novelisation. As for the helmet the hugger hit it with force and if you watch the movie you can see it takes a few seconds to get thru the facesheild...... God what a horror that would have been to see eating thru knowing you couldnt take your helmet off but you also couldnt stop this thing....... terrifying

Mabey if it used acid to break the glass, then they could haves used a machine to drain them of their acid and then put them in the glass tube thing

Just an idea

That would be a pretty crapy day...

I will say that I do find 'Aliens' and 'Alien 3' entertaining, but they just aren't what they should or could be...you know?

I look at the sequels exactly the same way aintnozeno, and I'll take it a step further.....the reason people like you and I feel as though these films fall short, seem off in some way or just down right get it wrong ('Alien Ressurection', 'AVP', 'AVPR') is that 'Alien' made it very clear what it was...sc-fi/horror...there's no mistaking that. It's in the movie's DNA, to borrow Ridley's 'Prometheus'-'Alien' characterization. The sequels, starting with 'Aliens', morphed from sc-fi/horror into sc-fi/action adenture. AND BECAUSE CAMERON FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH ACTION, not because it suited the material. Cameron and every director that followed (Fincher did come back to horror somewhat), seemed to miss that aspect of the original's identity. 'Alien' is a horror film at its core. And you must look at it that way. A flim's genre is, comparatively, the overriding structure of its individual fingerprint. To alter the genre of a story from one film to its sequels is to rob it of its identity and that, for a storyteller, is basically a sin...it's a bastardization...it's wrong.

...And then there's the "Bull-Alien" I saw in Walmart a few years back. Shame. Like you say: Apples and oranges... or in that case, apples and poop.

Oh yeah, and the face-hugger and acid/mask topic... I agree with it using any means to get to a host and then instantaneously being able to neutralize its secretions so as not to leave it (Cain) with a severe case of pizza face (or raw hamburger face). To be able to execute that in a fraction of a second... what a perfect organism.

I think you're right craigamore. Another thing that defined Alien- aside from the creature and all it's "talents", was the originality of the entire film. Sci-fi had never seen such a thing, and the closest attempts were cheesy at best. That's why I have no problems with Prometheus not having zenos in it, and why I HOPE Ridley is going to deliver once again. Look at all the speculation generated by a few pics and a one-minute trailer. It sets the film up as possibly disappointing, but if he pulls it off again, it will be another great film. No more AVP crap! Not that they weren't good, just that they weren't GREAT! The mystery of it all is what made Alien great. I for one am glad that we can all guess what will happen, but know absolutely nothing for certain. In this day of reboots and remakes, I hope it's nothing like we expect. It's the only way it can be if it succeeds! Once again I apologize for the hijacked thread!

Perfect indeed...

I think that the reason that the face huggers could not melt through the glass tubes was because they filled them with an acid neutralizing solution.