In Space, No One Can Hear The box Office Sales

If i win the euro lottery im planning on spending the lot on an independent sc fi.

well its roger corman films for me every time lol.... camerons stable guy.

i think that everything below the 100 millions worldwide will be considered a failure and then probably no more movies will be produced ...however Ridley Scott have an history to not have made sequels of very succesful movies . ( if made by someone others movies like Bladerunner , Alien ,black rain , the gladiator would have spawned an immediate sequel with the same director ) ...his statement that they had to squeeze two prequels into one can maybe say that there will not be a Prometheus sequel .

I kinda agree and disagree with you there Frantz... Rather than spread his ideas across two sequels it does look like Ridley is throwing all of his ideas into this one basket, so to speak. And as such his desire to make a sequel will be almost non-existent. However I think that the "new direction" that this movie is alleged to head toward could open up a new franchise parallel to Alien, but different in its approach, most likely with sequels headed by other directors (as per Alien). I just hope they, being Fox, are a little more restrictive as to who is chosen and what ideas are added, so as to avoid a repeat of what happened with the latter installments of the Alien franchise.

did you watch pandorum snork ?

hi Snork. Love your dp. I think you both have really valid points there, I just hope that fox, if its a success, don't milk it dry like they have with the original franchise. We do want some mysteries left as to the origins of the alien and the Jockeys, that was what attracted me to the originals. A little back story is ok, just to fuel ones imagination, but we all know how notorious fox and every other film distributors are when it comes to churning out pointless sequels just to make a quick buck, which effectively kills the creations we adore so much. I hope its a one off, with some true originality, which is hard to come by in major Hollywood films these days.

I did Frantz... Its quite a layered film. I guessed they were already on the planet half way through the film, but didn't figure out who Quaid really was which I thought was done quite cleverly. I do wish they had explored the mutants more, but aside from that a good film that sits along my many sci-fi DVD's proudly, thanks mate for the suggestion. Hey there PO

I shall have to watch Pandorum. I'm honestly not over keen on modern day sci-fi movies. i think the last one I saw that I actually enjoyed was district 9,

District 9, good film, that guy makes me laugh in A-Team trying to jump start a car with a defib "Clear" lol.

@Frantz - Less than 100million would be a failure?? Apparently this movie has cost near 200million to make I've read somewhere. . . This film will be FAR better than Dark Knight Rises and The Hobbit but will obviously make less at the box office, due to them 2 movies being more "commercial". Althought The Hobbit looks terrible. . . I think Prometheus will make around $500-600million worldwide.

And dont forget the dvd sales and new alien box sets with prometheus added. fox will be patting themselves on the back I reckon, all new directors commentary on every movie due to the revelations which were unknown about the alien mythos until prometheus. I think a lot of long time fans will be urged to buy the new box sets again. and the double disk special features laden edition. I know I will

I think as long as the film recuperates its cost twice over the studio will be happy, anything more that that will be a bonus.

I quite don't understand people who want this (Prometheus, I mean) to be a new franchise or something like that. I want eerie standalone movie, not a pg franchise that is created just because some assholes want their money. I don't need this to answer all my questions, I want this to give me even more questions and thoughts about this whole thing.

I have to agree with you there, Ruth

Ruth; I second that and frankly I couldn't agree more. I hate the fact that we're burdened with so many terrible ALIEN sequels and spin offs, and more to the point I hate it when people refer to ALIEN as a franchise. ALIEN isn't a franchise, it is a work of art with countless poor imitations. You're completely right; Prometheus needs to stand alone! Please God, no one call Cameron for the sequel!

Alien may well not have been a franchise when it began, yes, it is a work of art, but it sure as sugar is a franchise now. And the Ali-verse encompasses a whole lot more than just one movie. And there was nothing wrong with Cameron's sequel. sure, he changed the un-official cannon of the creatures life-cylce, but he was well within his rights to do so, as the egg scene was not released in the final version we saw in theatres. IMO. Agreeably, Camerons work these days leaves a lot to be desired but there's no doubt about his sci fi credentials at the beginning of his career. Also Ridleys work these days isnt the greatness it used to be. And the guy who wrote the scrip for this movie as only ever worked on lost. I'd much rather have a Cameron script, tbh. Lost was just awful after its initial pilot episode, lol Like I said before, they should have asked Abrams to do the script as the star trek reboot isnt half bad at all.

If you want PROMETHEUS to be a tough, thought provoking movie forget about big box office. GLADIATOR is a simple revenge movie with lots action: Big Box Office. ROBIN HOOD & KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are more subtle movies with heavy duty political themes: So-so box office. AVATAR earned big box office because it is basically a BRAVEHEART in Outer Space. LORD OF THE RINGS is basically LAWRENCE OF ARABIA meets Dragons & Dungeons. All are war movies at heart. Unless PROMETHEUS is LAWRENCE OF ARABIA in Outer Space with humans siding with Space Jockeys in a war to bring down the Mad Gods, I would say PROMETHEUS would earn so-so box office. Remember as popular as ALIEN was in 1979, its number is more STAR TREK VOYAGE HOME (approx $200 million +) instead of AVATAR ($750 million).

@Frantz Yea i saw PANDORUM, very nice twist in the end. But the movie needs better plot & characters.

Whoa...wait...hold up....you're kidding, right, PefrectOrganism2? There's nothing wrong with Cameron's sequel? 1st, there's the total plot rip from the first film.....travelers in space (marines this time) investigate a deserted complex (the derelict the 1st time), only to find themselves attacked by the alien species, to be unable to escape them, have to improvise a means to defend themselves, plan to use a shuttle for escape (Narcissus the 1st time, drop ship the 2nd), confront the alien (in this case, the queen), escape the exploding atmospheric processor (or Nostromo the 1st time), escape by the skin of their teeth only to have the alien hitch a ride (this time, the queen), have a battle to the death on board the escape vessel and blow (in both cases) the alien out the airlock (which, is ridiculous and unrealistic the 2nd, because who really believes Ripley would have the strength to pull herself out of an open airlock and do so with no oxygen to breathe, because.....oh, wait.....the vacuum of space would have instantaneously depressurized the Sulaco's loading bay and completely removed every last molecule of air)......so there.....there's that. 2nd, as to you're "he changed the un-official cannon" statement........you're use of the term unofficial bothers me, because...by definition...'Alien' sets up all the rules as "official". Whenever you write a story, you are setting up the rules of the world you are creating as you go, whether you're aware of them or not. Now, you can bend those rules, but to break them is to ruin the integrity and credibility of the story you're writing. Good writer's understand and respect this principle and also understand and respect that when you take over/work with someone else's material, you're beholden to the rules they set up for the world in which you're working.....and Cameron failed to do this in many respects that we have covered in numerous, previous, threads. 3rd, as I've written, and I have no idea how many times at this point, Cameron morphed the genre from a sc-fi/horror to a sci-fi/action adventure because it suited his comfort zone.... 'Alien' made it very clear what it was...sc-fi/horror...there's no mistaking that. It's in the movie's DNA, to borrow Ridley's 'Prometheus'-'Alien' characterization. The sequels, starting with 'Aliens', morphed from sc-fi/horror into sc-fi/action adenture. AND BECAUSE CAMERON FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH ACTION, not because it suited the material. Cameron and every director that followed (Fincher did come back to horror somewhat), seemed to miss that aspect of the original's identity. 'Alien' is a horror film at its core. And you must look at it that way. A flim's genre is, comparatively, the overriding structure of its individual fingerprint. To alter the genre of a story from one film to its sequels is to rob it of its identity and that, for a storyteller, is basically a sin...it's a bastardization...it's wrong. By the way, totally agree with you Ruth and Mentos.

Well seeing how much more AMAZING Ridley Scott is, I can see Prometheus being nothing like a stereotypical Cameron movie. I'm not dissin' him, as Terminator 2 was amazing. But Avatar is the worst excuse of a "sci-fi/adventure" film I've ever seen in my life. Alien will always outclass Aliens as an overally movie, originality aside I mean!