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MemberOvomorph02/19/2012
I just read a post on here that made my brain click. Traveling back in time. They went looking for out begining! What they found could be our end! The movie Aliens VS Predator is set at modern day time. Weyland corp finds the frozen piramid. and determins that its been there for thousands of years. and that predator had been hunting aliens for thousands of years. If the 1979 film is set in the future, and prometheus is its prequal, then its possiable that prometheus sumhow by accident or on purpose gets sent into the past to find our begining but insted tampers with unknown things and creates the alien species or something to that effect. therefore creating a new species actually BORN on earth. ridley has talked about a part 2 already. Something tells me that prometheus isnt the prequal that leads up to Alien. but the part 2 is and will lead up to alien on the LV426 moon. or maybe the SJ ship on lv426 is the one that got away, but the pilot dies in travel from the chest bust and crashes on lv426. just thoughts.... but think about it. If the space jockey race is dying out and are trying to plant life on new planets or something of the sort, trying to save there race or begin new life like theres. They create humans and accidently create the aliens? or maybe just all around an experiment? also a few things bother me. The 1979 alien movie, when they landed on lv426 they find a ship on its side and find the pilot. First: They determine its been dead a "LONG TIME". If prometheus is prequal, how long has that SJ pilot been dead? Because it seems that if prometheus is sent to this planet (if it is the same planet) that when the SJ ship crashes a disstress signal is sent out to the company and the "Company" (which i believe to be weyland) sends the crew of the nistromo to investigate. in theory, the sj could not have been dead THAT long. maybe a few months? or like i said, They were sent back in time. and the SJ ship that got away and crashed on lv426 was really there hundreds of thousands of years. but then how did those eggs survive that long? Second: Everyone is saying that the pilot SJ is a suit. Well in Alien, dallas determines that the "Suit" has BONES broken outward. If it were a suit, why are they broken bones? Maybe a BIO-Suit? or like a theory going around is that its a HUMAN inside the SJ suit to pilot the ship. maybe that could be true but with dallas shineing his light down in the "SUIT" whouldnt they have seen more bones inside? Also if it was an impregnated SJ inside the suit whouldnt the chest buster hole been bigger? the hole didnt seem any bigger than the side if there hands. Just a hunch that a human was inside the "Suit" if it is a suit. perhaps was a queen that emerged from the pilot and burned a hole in the floor to go lay her eggs. Third: in the second movie "Aliens" they try to determine where the aliens are coming from. they determine it must be a queen laying eggs that they have not seen yet. Now, in the special edition of Aliens it shows how the colony got infect. a small family finds the ship and brings back hubby with face hugger on his face. But a theory may be that following my theory of the SJ pilot bursting out a queen... could that be the same queen? the queen in Aliens is the queen that ladid the eggs inside/under the wrecked ship? Fourth: this is touchy because lots of people hate it, but i love it. The idea of fighting two different aliens. PREDATOR VS ALIEN is awesome to me. Great way to mix things up. it started with PREDATOR 2 when danny glover walked into the ship and found a trophy set on the wall. to the right was an alien warrior head. Then started the AVP games and Movies. My question is, is it possiable that Prometheus could have some connection not only to ALIEN but also other life beings like Predator? Also on that trophy wall where other skulls! Whould have been great if a space jockey skull was on the wall too! Fifth: Following my fourth comment, in Predator 2 and Predators (Which i consider to be Predator 3) the trophy wall in 2 and the creaturs from the cages in predator 3 show they hunt other beings. But they consider Aliens to be there most prized trophys. in AVP weyland finds the temple where humans sacrificed themselves so that there gods (predators) could hunt! The question is the timeline. AVP and AVPR are set present day. Predators have been visiting and hunting Aliens for thousands of years. If Alien was set sumtime in the distant future and Prometheus is set in the distant future, and this is to explain how the aliens are made. Then how do we have aliens on earth present day and have had them in a frozen temple for thousands of years? lol these are just a FEW of MANY thoughts i have. cant thank of them all rite now, too tired, its 230am here rite now. But i do believe someone needs to draw up a timeline sheet with descriptive events of wat happend when and where in what movies. I thank i may attempt this myself soon. All i know is that all this talk about an alien prequal is got my head spining. Thinking of all the open doors and windows that just dont add up and explain themselves. I do know this, i cant wait for prometheus. Good or bad, atleast its going to tie up a few knots that explain a few things about aliens. i also hope for a AVP3 showing how Weyland and Yutani merge. also im hopeing for a Predators 4, i wana see royce and isable get off that planet or die trying. i also believe they should do a Predator prequal to the 1987 movie. The team that was sent in before Dutch's team. The whole team they found strung up in the trees. General Hopper's crew whould be a good prequal i thank. also in predator 3 nolan said he discovered that they always hunt in 3s. Well in Predator 1 and 2 it was only a single predator... in AVP and Predator 3 they hunt in 3's like he said. I understand why there was only one predator in AVP2 because he took it on himself to destory the abomination Predalien mix breed. But idk why only one predator took part in Movie one and Two. In the 2nd movie there were more predators at the end but they were not apart of the hunting. im sure prometheus will kick @$$ as a prequal movie. and ridley even says there will be a part 2. that shows part one is just that good lol. that also means that either Prometheus one does end at the begining of alien and prometheus 2 has something to do with something else like more story on space jockeys. Or prometheus one does not end at the begining of alien but continues thro to part 2 and that part 2 ends where alien begins. The first theory makes more sense to me, because ridley wants this to be a movie of its own. well ending prometheus one at the begining of alien and starting prometheus 2 seperate of alien whould make it, its own franchize. rite? my brain and fingers hurt. let me know wat yall think. i wana pick at a few brains and bounce around ideas.
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Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorph02/19/2012
Honestly, I think AvP was a GOOD IDEA ruined by a hack director. I have no respect for Paul W.S. Anderson at all. The one movie I can watch of his is Event Horizon. The second one was terrible, and that's being generous as far as I'm concerned :-P I think I fell asleep while I was watching it in the cinema. And I very rarely fall asleep during movies. I rarely sleep, for that matter. And I really, really, really hope that Prometheus has nothing at all to do with the Predator franchise now or in the future. If that happens, I'll give up watching movies altogether.
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L u )\/( a R u S

MemberOvomorph02/19/2012
Lol i hear that cypher. Mixing the franchises is actually a head ache really. But is good idea, if done right. I to believe they have gotten sloppy. But if prometheus could pull all of it together and do it clean and not just bunched in with alot of open doors and windows with why's or whats' whens and wheres and hows, then i think it whould be good. Im actually ready to see the storys close and end. but i assume that probably wont ever happen lol. it will just keep spreading out.

L u )\/( a R u S

MemberOvomorph02/19/2012
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh487/Lumarus1/timeline.jpg?t=1329645242 I hope this link works, but i made a photobucket account JUST for this image i quickly made up on the paint program on my laptop lol. Its a timeline for all the franchises. the years are listed when the moves where released but i made the timeline in the order as the movies themselves are set at. This is just theory tho, only if prometheus is infact a time traveling ship. it just makes sense to me that it whould be a time travel movie, that way it does not upset the movies already made that are set in modern day with aliens already on earth. That whould also explain how the "company" weyland-yutani knew about lv426 and sent the nistromo there to investigate.

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorph02/19/2012
Actually I think there's a timeline over at AvPGalaxy.net? Try Googling Alien Timeline, there are actually a few out there.
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Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorph02/19/2012
http://time.absoluteavp.com/ There ya go ;-)
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EGR101

MemberOvomorph02/19/2012
AVP has tons of great ideas. The first 30 minutes is pretty suspenseful. But the film has very poor writing team, or the studio just kinda hurry everybody up": "Let's do this quick & cheap!" The idea that a human would pair up with a Predator creature to fight the Aliens is beyond laughable !! And when the Elder Predator gives the female protagonist a trophy, everybody laughed out loud in the theater! And when the other Preds carry the wounded Pred ...in a stretcher (instead of some hi-tech levitation device), that's it, people were throwing popcorn at the screen, and even louder laughing !! Seriously, why these studio executives deliberately ruined a potential moneymaker just like that? The Predator creature in Arnold's version released in 1987 is a fearsome creature of cunning intelligence & surrounded with strange otherworldly devices that do not look hokey or lame on the big screen (the bomb it uses in the end gotta be a mini nuke). After watching AVP, he is turned into an action figure for pre-teens. Soulless execs !!

Engineer Prototype - Model GAJ84

MemberOvomorph02/19/2012
@ Engr101, I have to disagree with the idea of a human team up with a predator as being laughable. Granted AVP did not do it any justice but in the AVP novel trilogy (hunters planet & prey, cant remember the other one) A predator teams up with a human because she pretty much saved its life, even though he had it had previously tired to kill her, it could see she had great honor. This proves that not only is the predator a creature of cunning intelligence, stealh, extreme violence etc etc but he can also me humbled.

EGR101

MemberOvomorph02/19/2012
@Engineer Prototype If there is a substantial story, it just might work. But in AVP, under 40 minutes, you are expected to buy a story of a fierce alliance between human & alien species.This has the depth of a video game expeditionary short (if you ever play one). If AVP is spread over 2 movies (or better: an HBO or FX series), there might just be enough time & depth for a story to unfold & take hold naturally. It's hard to do scifi / fantasy genre convincingly, I know. Have you seen HBO's GAME OF THRONES? [SPOILERS AHEAD]The HBO writing team spends 10 gripping episodes of Shakespearean royal court political melodrama only to reveal in the last 5 minutes that a major character has the ability to summon mythical creatures. My jaw dropped at the very last scene. I thought I had been watching a Middle Age version of the SOPRANOS when it becomes DUNGEON & DRAGONS in the last 5 minutes. GAME OF THRONES is going to be a very, very interesting show.

L u )\/( a R u S

MemberOvomorph02/21/2012
[size=200]I found this: AVP Q&A[/size] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370263/faq If Aliens have been on Earth all this time, why didn't the characters in the Alien saga know? At best, the only human survivor from this movie is Lex. Even if she did survive, most likely no one believed her story. She was there on behalf of Weyland, so anything she tells the company will be kept under wraps. Soon after, the Yutani Corp gains video footage of one of the Aliens from Gunnison and a piece of Predator technology (through Colonel Stevens in AVPR, who worked for the same unit as Peter Keys from 'Predator 2'). In Alien, the Weyland-Yutani Corporation knew of the existence of the Aliens for some time, but they chose to keep it under wraps so they could use them for their own means; the crew of the Nostromo were not supposed to know about it, except Ash (Special Order 937 was for 'Science Officer Eyes Only'). It's possible the company learned about the Aliens during the upcoming Prometheus. [size=200]And Just below that, read on to this question and answers:[/size] What is the timeline of the Alien, Predator, and AVP movies? Before Time: It dates back to Antarctica during the dawn of the human race where a Predator tribe comes to Earth and teach the humans how to built a civilization of pyramids and the Predators used them as hosts to breed the Aliens for the Predator's coming of age ritual. But something went wrong, the Aliens grew too large, the Aliens overwhelmed the city and the Predators were forced to blow it sky high. Either one Pyramid survived or the Predators re-built one. c. 1715: A Predator aquired old pistol. The gun the Elder Predator gave Harrigan. 1904: A whaling station is attacked by three more Young Blood Predators who used the workers as hosts for the Aliens, as shown in an alternate opening, the disappearance of the workers mentioned by Lex, and the dials of the coffin were last set to 1904. 1930: The beginning of Predator: Concrete Jungle (VG) 1987: Predator 1997: Predator 2 2004, October 3: Beginning of AVP. 2004, October 10: Weyland Industries heads for the Pyramid awakening the Alien Queen, stealing the guns, & the Young Bloods arrive to become men. AVP:R takes up right after AVP left off, but the Predator mother-ship reached Saturn when the Scout separated and headed back to Earth; this distance was most likely a month at least, considering that one person commented "Isn't Halloween in October?" (You'd say something like that after Halloween) After AVPR: Ms. Yutani covered up the events of Gunnison as she stated "The world isn't ready for this" and she must have signed an agreement with Weyland's heir forming Weyland-Yutani. Then, in 2030, Weyland and Yutani finalize their merger ('Predator: Concrete Jungle'). 2010: Predators 2030: Predator: Concrete Jungle (VG) 2122: Alien 2179: Aliens: The movie takes place 57 years after Alien. Maybe a month later (most say a year later): Alien3 2209: Aliens vs. Predator (the game): Because it takes place 30 years after Aliens and Alien3 2379/2380: Alien Resurrection This timeline may not be valid anymore soon. The upcoming movie Prometheus is set in the Alien universe prior to Alien, and will probably retcon the events of the Alien vs. Predator movies, or ignore them, as did the movie Predators. Rumour has it, that Prometheus will reveal that the Aliens were in fact created by the Space Jockeys 30 years prior to the first Alien movie, which means the Aliens couldn't have been around thousands of years before the beginning of AVP. However, this rumour seems false, as it would contradict the very first Alien movie itself: the Derelict Ship with the Alien eggs had already existed for thousands of years (indicated by the fossilized Space Jockey).
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