Dome of Star Map Room

If true, that means that this is the same room that the Space Jockey seat/telescope rises out of. Which also means that, by what I can see, Ridley has reduced the size of this area and the size of the Jockeys themselves by a LOT. Looking at a high resolution GIF of the trailer scene that I have (I got it from here...perhaps someone who knows where to find it could link it?), it does indeed look like the same room. This isn't a good thing in my opinion, I was hoping the massive size of the chair, and thus the Jockeys, would be preserved. I somehow hope I'm wrong.

[img]http://www.larsfocke.de/temp/prometheus-space-jockey-chair.gif[/img] [url=http://www.larsfocke.de/temp/prometheus-space-jockey-chair.gif]High Resolution Space Jockey Chair Room Scene[/url]

You're the man. Yeah, see the portals on the side of the room in the star map picture? You can see one just beyond the rising scope in the GIF. The star room pic also has a large hole in the middle of the floor. Sometimes, I hate being right.

I Love It Man !

...and judging by the size of the room, it would mean that the original egg chamber that Kane climbed DOWN into (which would be about the same size), is NOT on board the ship as there definitely isn't the space for a "lower" deck. Ho hum... There'd barely be enough room to store the seat!

Good point Kronik, certainly not a lower deck of the size we saw in the first film. This is causing me to rethink some of my previous theories on the film, namely that this is the same derelict we saw in the first film. Either Ridley is making some serious continuity changes (this is possible, although I'm inclined to think it's unlikely) or this isn't the same ship at all.

Guys if you watch the ext edition of Alien in the Quadrilogy Box Set, you can Clearly see that the room that ACID enduced passage way leads into is Massive in the back and stretches back for miles into the distance behind Kane! Just FYI !!!

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Space Jockey = lousy pilot?

But hold on, in the trailer it's massive as it crashes behind the running astronauts on the ground. More like the proportions we remember... Yes?

[quote]db Member Send PM› Posted Mar-07-2012 3:09 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Space Jockey = lousy pilot?[/quote] LMFAO

Whoever says "the derelict" is a ship? Who knows what that thing is..

It's not the same room the star map room has a raised ledge and the SJ cockpit rises out of a flat surface with no ledge so it's not the same room... Theres also no chair or console beside the cockpit different room and a different purpose

Hi Guys, The skylight above the SJ may not have been built into the original ALIEN set, but it does appear in Giger's production sketches of the derelict exterior (posted here plenty of times). And thoe match up perfectly with the skylight indicated by the red square at the top of this thread. It also appears in paintings by Giger of the sj room that angle up toward the ceiling, rather than shots from the movie, which were either shot eye level and close in or wide angle looking down as in that great sj reveal shot. There are also subtle and not-so-subtle differences in the floor surrounding the EMPTY sj chair in the Prometheus trailer. For one thing, the chair articulates (or unfolds slightly) as it spins up out of the floor. And those large sarcophagi (sj or engineer cryochambers?) do not appear in ALIEN. BTW, they had to use the same (straight) background wall for the SJ room in ALIEN as they did for closeups of the egg chamber wall. So what might have originally been built as an interior to a hoped for egg silo or pyramid got used as the sj backdrop as well as for what became a subteranian egg chamber.

The point, I guess, from my last post is that I would hate to dignify (as cannon) any limitations or inconsistencies (even cheats) in set construction that remain from the original 1979 ALIEN film. What we saw was a 30 year old derelict. I am sure some of us will react with varying degrees of comfort to this beloved old boat being brought to life, however briefly, in Prometheus. Hey, if nothing else we get to watch as the Space Jockey rides again! Sounds like a t shirt design to me!

wait a minute look at the gif.... The platform is growing and expanding getting bigger.

@Ronster... the chair is on the far right, and you can't see the ledge because this shot is zoomed in more.

@Ronster: David looks quite small on the Star Map platform. There are some behind-the-scenes set construction pics floating around o the net and this forum that show a bird's eye view of a person standing dead center on that platform. I think Ridley has maintained the same proportions of the Space Jockey chair/room as the original in Alien.

Some people have alluded to the 'sense' that the entire SJ room is expanding as the chair rises up out of the floor... well, if we're dealing with a bio-mechanical ship, that would make perfect sense. What would be the point of having the entire inside of the derelict look like the inside of a giant intestine...unless it was functional and for a purpose... That would also perhaps solve the problem of having the eggs ON the ship, rather than in a cave below the ship as has been suggested in other posts....

The camera is merely moving while being fixated on a single point. It's just an illusion, much like when the derelict is "sitting" vertically in the sand. It only looks like its sitting because of the way the camera rotates towards it as it rolls (albeit slowly).

The camera is merely moving while being fixated on a single point. It's just an illusion much like the derelict "sitting" vertically in the sand. It only looks like it's sitting because the camera is rotating while the ship rolls (albeit slowly).

i know this may be off topic but ive noticed something for the first time thanks to that gif in high quality, theres 4 cryotube chambers in that room, i always thought there were just the two on the far right. theres one on the opposite far side of the room which the chair is mostly blocking but you can still make out the design. and the fourth chamber is on the left and it appears to open. if you look back & forth with the left chamber & the right chamber the design is identical & that left chamber is definitely open which im assuming our tall friend came from. the top covering portion is missing compared to the two on the far right. just thought i would point that out if this hasnt been discussed before.

[quote]i know this may be off topic but ive noticed something for the first time thanks to that gif in high quality, theres 4 cryotube chambers in that room, i always thought there were just the two on the far right. theres one on the opposite far side of the room which the chair is mostly blocking but you can still make out the design. and the fourth chamber is on the left and it appears to open. if you look back & forth with the left chamber & the right chamber the design is identical & that left chamber is definitely open which im assuming our tall friend came from. the top covering portion is missing compared to the two on the far right. just thought i would point that out if this hasnt been discussed before.[/quote] You'd be right in that assumption ;-) many times, it has been discussed. Post like Yoda, I now do. :-P

Very observant and interesting find Scidley. It is (IMHO) disappointing however that Ridley apparently chose not to maintain the same SJ scale as in Alien. What of continuity?

I'm pretty sure the scale will remain consistent. Watch the trailer towards the end as the 2 astronauts are running from the crashed/rolling derelict, the very first scene of them running. They're incredibly small in the frame (hard to see) and the derelict is MASSIVE behind them. At this scale, the derelict is consistent with the orignal from 1979.

Thank you db. Good to know.

If you right click to view the Gif image and zoom on the dude turning on the right it also looks like some of his body starts to glow especially his right arm and parts of his back... Could be reflections but this guy has skin? I am sure he is glowing a bit

[i]I hope nobody has pointed this out before[/i] On the gif it looks like one of the "cryopods" has had part of it blown out/exploded from the inside, or at least has some odd sharp edged random protrusions: [img]http://i.imgur.com/RjECm.gif[/img] Thoughts?

[quote]On the gif it looks like one of the "cryopods" has had part of it blown out/exploded from the inside, or at least has some odd sharp edged random protrusions[/quote] Yeah! I can also see that and i think the other pods or at least the other one on the right side has it as well.