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no, its not a prequel.

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Not_my_intention

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 5:35 PM
Prometheus is not going to be a 100% full prequel, just from all of the info we have and the trailers and the new look of everything, i am going with a half prequel half reboot. much like the new planet of the apes (rise, not the crappy remake from whenever that was) it will explain the back story of the first movie but has a new style and will restart the series, and will not necessarily be 100% cannon, infact one of my theories is that one of the sequels of Prometheus will be a part re-make of alien. i mean why not? as long as they get good writers and ridley is back to direct it again, i think that could be really cool :) any thoughts?
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Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2012 5:45 PM
I've never heard of a director "remaking" their own film. If anything they just alter the original. That being said, the Legend director's cut came very close to a remake.

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trisg_2000

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 5:48 PM
no, ill have to disagree, Ridley won't remake alien, its his masterpiece........also he has kept the alien canon intact as if you watch the trailer closely, you'll notice that they crash the Prometheus ship into the alien space jockey ship which leads us to believe the entire crew of prometheus die or are taken by the SJ. This would make sense as in alien the company send ripleys vessel to the ship, knowing full well what it is and why they are sending the crew there. perfect canon and a perfect prequel.

jkat

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 5:54 PM
From what I've read and seen regarding Ridley Scott, in interviews and such, the Alien franchise took a turn that he ( as well as James Cameron, who by the way had been interested in a prequel prior to the whole Alien vs Predetor movies started) didn't care for. As I understand it, Scott wanted to go back and tell the background story of the 'Spacejockey', helping us to understand the true origan of the aliens we've come to know. What I'd like to know is this: Did the 'Spacejockey' or Engineers discover the alien or did they manufactor or create them, and if the latter, was the purpose to help remove exising life so the spacejockeys could establish the planet for themselves, making themselves 'Gods' of sorts.

jkat

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 5:57 PM
I agree with trisg_2000. The audience only know a portion of the story and Scott is about to fill us in on the rest. Also I've read that Scott is hoping to actually make 2 films, not just one, but it depends on how well the first one does.

EGR101

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:01 PM
PROMETHEUS 2, if it is made, probably involve full scale invasion of Earth starting with its governmental bodies around the world, revelation at some UN General Meeting. Followed by revolt by US Military, invasion from Earth's orbit, with major cities bombarded with Xenos, bio-mass weapons, parasites of all kind, imagine gigantic fungi taking over Manhattan, seriously. Isn't cancer a fungus? PROMETHEUS 2: JOCKEY'S REVENGE? Maybe a tie-in with CRYSIS game with all its biomechanical suit. It's INDEPENDENCE DAY only done with good taste, geared towards older audience, better actors than Prince of Bel Air, fantastic photography, ground-breaking FX, practical and CGI - you would expect from Scott.

TheSNARK

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:03 PM
I don't mind this not being a prequal. (Even though there's sooo many connections to the original!) As long as Scott (or the writers) retains full artistic and story control over future sequals to Prometheus. (Hopefully they've got the story already mapped out.) The thing that they don't want to happen is the problem many had with Aliens. Cameron came along and made a great movie, problem was it completely turned around the creatures MO. The feeling I get from the trailer is that the eggs/face huggers are some sort of cargo in the ship they find. (Where did I read it as the "croissant ship"!!) This connects it to the "they are weapons" statement that I think I remember Scott mentioning years ago in an interview. The sequals must continue this storyline. eg. Who created them? Why create them? What 'alien' race created them? (Are the creators tall enough to be Predators? There I said it!!! Don't shoot me!) The sequals can't be allowed to suddenly show the creatures as something else. (ie. Cameron turned them into god damned soldier ants for christ sake!!)

of_the_old_school

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:14 PM
I personally think that the original xenomorphs were crew members of the Prometheus expedition. The crew of the Prometheus were punished for stealing from Space Jockeys by being bioengineered into xenomorphs and then were slated to be taken to earth to destroy their own civilization. Ergo the name of the ship, the Prometheus. Just my two cents. :)

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2012 6:15 PM
It's implied that the engineers seeded our planet in order to take it back when we had developed enough to come find them.

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MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:17 PM
I find this new dimension fantastic. Not only do we begin to really explore the depths of the corporation, but also the SJ pedigree.

TheSNARK

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:22 PM
To quote jkat: (why doesn't this forum have a 'quote' option when replying?!) "What I'd like to know is this: Did the 'Spacejockey' or Engineers discover the alien or did they manufactor or create them, and if the latter, was the purpose to help remove exising life so the spacejockeys could establish the planet for themselves, making themselves 'Gods' of sorts." If the Space Jockeys are smart enough to create these nasty little buggers, wouldn't they be smart enough to remove existing life from a planet using a more neater method :)

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2012 6:30 PM
Diseases are too risky and bombs too destrutive. If you'll remember, the Xeno left all the tech on Nostromo alone. Diseases might leave 1 or 2 % behind. Xenos would completely eradicate any potential competition with minimal damage to the infrastructure.

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MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:38 PM
The Aliens (Xeno) seek out organic life as a mandate to create and reproduce. That's all they care about, so thinking about that one idea where does it lead us? A purposeful life form who's only function is to reproduce and at the same time consume all viable life in the area. Sounds like a weapon to me. Like Agent Orange but with (2) legs and some very nice teeth...

ArchEtech

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:47 PM
A) why does a SJ or Engineer need any of our infrastructure. That makes Zero sense. B) Xenomorph life forms from what we have seen would not wipe out the human race. You can kill them with a .45. ( now whatever is "behind" the Alien might be much worse as a weapon than the creature we've seen sl far). Now maybe human are the "crop" they'd like to harvest. Or maybe they care about as much for humans as a scientist creating bacteria cultures. You make one that's a threat, or that isn't sugessful and you destroy it. In any case I still don't buy into the fact that the Xeno creature from alien is the actual weapon - its the effect of the weapon.

TheSNARK

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 6:47 PM
Hate to be the SJs that have to go in and round up the bloody things after they've done the job!!

TheSNARK

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:06 PM
So the creatures/xenos are the soldiers that are created by the Sjs via a face hugger. The Sjs leave clues on inhabited planets to lure them when the inhabitants get smart enough to travel the distance. (The smarter the host, the smarter the creature/xeno that is created.) The Sjs then travel to the host planet (in this case Earth), concur/overtake it, THEN introduce the face huggers to create their soldiers. (This of course works only if the Sjs are powerful enough to overcome any weaponry Earth may now have.)

TheSNARK

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:09 PM
ArchEtech: It ain't the creature that could/would wipe out the human race, but the face huggers. Those are quick, wiley little critters.

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2012 7:30 PM
Who knows what they may or may not need. The less is destroyed, the more readily the planet can be exploited. If the Xenos are an engineered weapon, the engineers most likely have a means to disable the weapon after it is deployed. That or they don't live that long after they are born and the weapon disables itself.

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tacospown

MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:49 PM
Has anyone noticed that on the trailer they have an extremely outdated version of the motion tracker. it looks so cool but so different, unfortunatly its not attached to there weapons. adn why is their movemrnt i tjought that they would all be hibernating. and i wonder if well actually see any of riddleys aliens in this movie
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