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Jim Jimmer
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 5:11 PMLooks like Guy Pearce in old guy make up to me................ probably..
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Frantz
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 5:20 PMYes can be very ..... an old rumor told that he was in heavy prohestetics ....and since hes a very old peter weyland that can be very true . ( the empire magazine confirmed that )
that scene in part of the hangar fight ... 2 are tryng to burn the mutant and there are those 2 mercenaries that exit from a door shooting ..behind them the old man helped by a woman ( ford ? ) and more behind another woman that look very like a sick shaw .
( also the mouth look very like Pearce's one )

BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-01-2012 5:29 PMI have done a slow analisis of a few scenes that all link to this scene.
I dont think they are burning the Mutand as in Fifield.
There are a group of Crew members with Flammers inc Vickers who are trying to destroy something on the floor by Torching in.
Fifield Mutant ambushes they from off the ATV, seems to Kill or injury one of them and then start throwing the others around.
Then the Mercs come running in and letting off shots at Fifield.
Thats what i read from the scenes, but then what are the Crew led by Vickers trying to Destroy and why does Mutant Fifield attack is he trying to stop them destroying something i.e protecting it.
Could it be escaped Shaw Baby Squidy, or some other Alien DNA related Organism or Work.
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Jim Jimmer
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 5:32 PM@frantz
Same here, the mouth looks really similar...
love the guns too.... although some people have said they look a bit tame....

Starbeast
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 5:33 PMIt certainly is Weyland for me. IIRC, Scott and Lindelhof eluded to an older/mature Weyland to be in the movie, during their Q&A for the second trailer.

Cryo
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 5:50 PMI agree, must be Weyland because they said they would be giving away too much of the plot if they keep talking about Peter Weyland's age and involvement in the mission.

Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 6:33 PMHere's a thought ... what if Weyland DID NOT go into CryoSleep? ... and the other crew members didn't know he was on board ... and David looked after him while traveling for the 2yrs? ...

mw3
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 7:00 PMyeah i think its him unless someone photoshoped it......but what i don't get is in that bit of the film clip were this pic is taken from a lot of things are going on if u watch the clip you see a dude jumping off that truck thing on fire and if u keep watching the clip and shop it just right you can see a space jocky with his helmet on picking up sum guy and sending him a cross the room..what i'm geting at y would he be there when thats all going on?.....

BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-01-2012 7:17 PMJust checked again and thats not Space Jockey its Fifield/Same Mutant who jumps off the ATV.
Who i think is trying to stop the crew burning what ever they was setting on fire.
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snapper
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 7:17 PMheres a little theroy to throw into the pot
Weyland nearing death from old age , is infected by david, his pawn , with the goo in the hope it will extend his live and its him thats the blue guy !
I cant help it but every time i see the blue guy , i cant get the blue guy out of watchmen out of my head ?

Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 7:30 PMHere's another shot of Weyland just before the scene above ... David is on the right (Weylands left, out of shot) behind the bloke shooting ... he offers a helping hand in that scene ...
[b]Another Weyland Shot:[/b]
[img]http://oi43.tinypic.com/t529t1.jpg[/img]

Dutch
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 7:53 PMHere's a thought ... what if Weyland DID NOT go into CryoSleep? ... and the other crew members didn't know he was on board ... and David looked after him while traveling for the 2yrs? .....from Gem]n[
Absolutely logical and rational to me.

Svanya
AdminPraetorianApr-01-2012 8:16 PMI remember reading an article in which Ridley said there were possibly 2 Androids/Synthetics on board. One we know as David, the other would be Weyland. However, Weyland was not there under his real name, it was Stanley or something like that (He looks old and bald). I need to remember where I saw that and link it here.

enceladus_is_alive
MemberOvomorphApr-01-2012 10:00 PMCould be some cloning going on in this movie.
Could be stunt doubles caught in the early trailers.
Who knows...

reffugee
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 1:03 AMold man is [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2458]NOT WEYLAND![/url]
If he is expalin why this [url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qSdXrD2WJeg/T3M6ysCCICI/AAAAAAAABe4/w-l010CAPqc/s1600/arms+up.jpg]pic of old guy[/url] has Holloway printed on his head?

reffugee
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 1:36 AM@Franz... Empire magazine only speculated that Welyland was old man. The qutoe frome article is "a mysterious old man that nobody, but nobody, is willing to go on record about". they never confirm anything!

Jim Jimmer
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 5:05 AM@reffugee
I dont know, can you explain why my image of 'old geezer' dosent have holloway printed on his head?
We know that something happens to at least 2 or 3 people anyway so for you to say Its not Weyland is a bit bold, you have to accept that it could be Weyland, just as I have to accept that it might not..

Frantz
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 5:23 AMWe cant be sure of anything ... some facial traits are classic of guy pearce but the resolution of the face is very minimal .Can be halloway too of course .... still the face look like pearce .
Its difficult to place the Hangar fight somewhere in the story because we have no images of the two mercenaries before . i also think that vickers using a flamethrower is from another part of the movie ( its a bit strange that they will make her fight !! she is the weyland rappresentative !! )
My idea is that they are leaving the ship ( thats why the helments ) that is already with too many problems aboard ( mutants , tentacles , whatever )

reffugee
MemberOvomorphApr-04-2012 1:53 AM@Jim JImmer
I can explain why your image of 'old geezer' doesn't have Holloway printed on his head: he is not wearing head bonnet/yellow cap, and neither is anyone else in this shot. Of course it could be Weyland, I just have serious doubts because it looks so similar to aging Halloway [url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qSdXrD2WJeg/T3M6ysCCICI/AAAAAAAABe4/w-l010CAPqc/s1600/arms+up.jpg]image[/url]. I might be wrong but I think a director with the visual background of Ridley Scott would not make the elementary mistake of having two characters look so similar.

reffugee
MemberOvomorphApr-04-2012 2:05 AMmight share some facial traits with pearce but i think he looks more like [url=http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/PROMNEW005.jpg]Logan Marshall-Green[/url], just my opinion.

Jim Jimmer
MemberOvomorphApr-04-2012 6:08 PMWatch the TED viral again especially Pearce's mouth, you have to admit its pretty close...

MVMNT
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 8:25 PMIn the second picture look at the old guys legs...
It looks like his suit has an exoskeleton that would assist him with walking

gameover man
MemberOvomorphApr-24-2012 7:24 AMin this scene, David is the one being tossed around by Fifield. Slowing down the scene, you can just make out some details of the throwee's face, and he's very clean cut/shaven, and David is the only one with those characteristics. his frame is also very android like, slender and kindof stiff.
in the previous frame where Fifield leaps off the ATV, it looks like whoever it is (David I say) is wrestling with someone, maybe strangling someone (see Ash). You see two different frames of 3 people burning something (at least the one scene you see two crew memebers definately burning what we see smoldering on the floor in the background, and vickers burning something we cant see). i think David beats up one of the mutants, maybe goes after shaw for trying to thwart his plans, Fifield jumps in and takes on David, and the crew come in hot and get the wrong idea and start blasting at Fifield.
im curious as to where the crew members who were doing the burning are in the next frame when guys come in with pistols...the burners dont seem to be around anymore.
ANYBODY ELSE SEE DAVID DYING HORRIFICALLY? HE HAS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF SOMEONE WHO GOES OUT GROSS, AND EVERYONE IN THE THEATRE APPLAUDS WHEN IT HAPPENS!

gameover man
MemberOvomorphApr-24-2012 7:44 AMheres a photo of who is thought to be "old man Weyland" coming into the hangar, and a better shot of the person behind him...its female cast memeber #3, not David.
[url=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120214034360/avp/images/thumb/b/b8/Pearce1.jpg/399px-Pearce1.jpg]Your text to link here...[/url]

CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-24-2012 7:53 AMWho cares what is printed on the Helmet.
That doesnt mean anything. Holloway could be dead by this point in the movie and the old man is simply given any spare helmet in the dressing bay above the hangar.
And for all we know, the production department knowing that this scene was going to be used in a trailer, simply changed the name to mislead and misdirect.
Lets just state the obvious... an OLD MAN, is literally being protected by a trained professional security detail... These are probably Weyland Industries MERCS who were put on the ship(s)? under false pretenses. These are NOT scientists here. ((There is a notation in the Timeline of Weyland providing employment to former ASIAN CONFLICT war veterans... which I take as slang for Weyland gives jobs to mercenaries for hire)).
So is Holloway like the President or something?? Why would he warrant a detail of gun toting thugs? He wouldn't!! That can be no other person other than Peter Weyland !... You know, the guy who is still so vain that he has a plush stateroom with a crystal chandelier installed into the Prometheus.

gameover man
MemberOvomorphApr-24-2012 9:06 AM[img]http://rukkle.com/wp-content/uploads/peter-weyland-in-prometheus-TED-talk-video-620X400.jpg[/img]
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CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-24-2012 9:52 AMOh gee..... and further..
I just realized that the "pic" being referred by refugee as proof the "old man" is not Weyland is NOT even from the scene with the security detail. !! That is a completely different part of the movie!
That is a VERY ENLARGED small part of the viral image released long ago oh Vickers (Charlize Theron) using the flame gun to hold back the entire crew from re-entering the ship after returning from the Temple!
Its not even related to the hangar scene with the gun toting security thugs.
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