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HastaLaVista
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 4:51 PMI posted the following as a response earlier and I meant to post it as a "Start a Discussion".
Don't read any further if you don't like possible spoilers:
Here goes:
Invitations to a graduation party have been left behind on many habitable planets by the Engineers who have seeded these planets thousands of years in the past. The only requirement is that the species being invited need to be aware that they have been invited and have the means to get to the party.
Humans find the invitation and head off to the party following the directions left behind. Unbeknownst to the humans, another species arrives first but have other plans. They want to be the new "Kings" on the block.
What do new "Kings" do? On earth, some Kings kill off all of the old Kings children so there will be no retributions or acts of vengeance at a later date. But there is only one problem. The new "Kings" don't know where all the children live (earth) or where the earth is. Or for that matter where all the other seeded "earths" are. Invitations were left behind on several planets represented by the pyramids visisble as Prometheus comes in for a landing. Each pyramid represents a different planet seeded by the Elders (Engineers). Each pyramid contains artificats that will be vaguely familiar to each species when they get around to exploring their particular pyramid.
Our pyramid has the big head with the ampules containing the either the bioformer used to seed our particular planet or the roach bait to wipe out whoever comes by.
The Blue Meanies are the species that beat us to the party. They are the equivalent of child molesters 3rd class. They have laid a trap for all the other species invited. As the new species arrive for their diploma, the Blue Meanies annihilate them (after getting the directions back to their home planet, of course). They then follow the directions to that home planet and kill all the children with the Bio-Weapons they have on board their space vehicle. They use the space cannon/wormhole creator thingy to eradicate the "children". When they are thru killing the "children", they have a turn-key planet to propagate their species.
They then return to the Engineers planet and set the trap for the next species. Eventually, they will get directions to all of the habitable planets that the Engineers seeded. Not only are they bad, they are lazy too!
But something goes wrong with the Blue Meanies plan. The humans figure out that its a trap and open up a can of "whup-ass" on the Blue Meanies. We may be smaller than them, but we are pure of heart and we manage to bring down their space vehicle. However, we now have no way to get home.
I don't think we have seen the Engineers yet in any of the trailers. I think they are a dying, benevolant race that meant well but some of their "children" turned out bad, really bad.
Anyway, that's my theory.
You are free to blow holes in it. Criticism is appreciated.
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TheNextLV426
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 4:55 PMYes mate. It pretty much matches what i thought. http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2429
I'm sure we are along the right lines

centrosphere
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 5:00 PMSome really good ideas, Hasta. I like it. It could be a solution to the problem of why our creators would like to exterminate us.
The only problem: it seems that the Earth is already stored at the data banks of the "derelict" ship. So, be the ship of Engineer or Blue guys fabrication, the last ones should already be aware of Earth´s localization. This requires some clever explanation.

TheNextLV426
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 5:10 PMPerhaps other children are not considered a threat until they discover faster than light travel. At which point the Meanies want to wipe out the competitors so they don't have to share potential life capable planets.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteApr-03-2012 5:19 PMSo let me get this down in layman's terms...
Engineers in their UFO seed life on Earth (and other planets) instructing their "Children" to visit said star system. Where a temple awaits them... Why? Whats the purpose?
Anyways, before we get there the Space Jockey "Children" show up, and they're BAD ASS and lay in wait for the other "Children" such as us, find out where we come from and intend to colonize our home. Why wait, they already have Earth in their star maps?
I like the idea, but there's too many holes. That said I do believe you have touched upon the point that plagues us all, who does the UFO belong to and what is their relationship to the Space Jockey's are they enemies, allies are the UFO guys the gods or the Space Jockey's.
I think we are all getting caught up in semantics about the Derelict and its links to Alien when we really should be looking at that big UFO, I think that is part of the puzzle we are all overlooking.

Lord Ennio
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 5:35 PMIt's a very interesting theory. Taking into consideration that time-travel will have a place in this film. What I'm getting at is perhaps that the Alien universe does not evolve around the Earth we know. In fact, it could very well be Earth in an alternate universe. Also, in regards to the big UFO, maybe another Earth was wiped out and one of the Engineers did not like what he saw decided to break away from his group and use the DNA experiment to seed our present-day Earth. There are several ways to interpret what happened, but I feel any and all theories play into what we will see this summer.

BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-03-2012 5:40 PMWell there are many posibilities.
The thing is we only see the one temple, and that statue of a face looks human, but so does that pale guy in the scene with the water fall with the "a King has his reign"
Now the Blue Man who we see activate the Pilot Chair to rise up and then walk over to it, does look like a 9ft odd Human in a Tight Organic Looking Biker Suit, he is bald and pale and could indeed look like the guy from the water fall scene and the Statue effigy.
Now we also see in some clips and pictures two Space Jockey suits with masks on, apearing as if they are hanging on the wall. And another scene where the crew come across a SJ body (looks simular to Blue Mans suit) with no head and the apear to be examining the head and i bet take the head back to Prometheus.
So there are more than one instance of seeing the Space Jockey Suit.
I would thus think the Space Jockey are a race of large Humaniods whos technology is all bio mechanical based.
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HastaLaVista
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 5:53 PMMy theory is that the big, round spaceship seem at the beginning of one trailer is an Engineer vessel seeding one of several planets in the distant past. The space jockeys are just one of the species seeded on some far flung habitable planet that evolved faster than us and went to meet their benefactor/creators, the Engineers, on this planet.
The Engineers share some of their technology with the Space Jockey race but not where the other seeded planets are located. The Engineers are betrayed and murdered by the Space Jockey race who steal their technology and decide to eliminate the other species because that's what they do. At this point in the movie, I don't think the Space Jockeys know where earth or any of the other seeded planets are located. The universe is a large place and the Space Jockeys haven't become aware of where any of the seeded planets are located. But I think the Space Jockeys would look at these evolving species as competitors that need to be eliminated.
Anyway, that's my theory. That and $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-03-2012 5:54 PMI am also thinking we should not be looking at the Space Jockey in Alien and trying to think why it looks different. Indeed the very Derelict ship in this movie may not be the same one that landed/crashed on LV 426 and hence the not a direct prequel.
We need to maybe look at
1) The Star Charts found in Ancient Civilisations in the movie, which is Fiction but they are using references to real Ancient Civilisations and Myths. Sumerian, Egyptian and off course the Titans of Greeks (Prometheus) now these Civilisations have Gods that are depicted as being just like Man only taller, more devine and powerfull. They created us in their image and out of clay.
The images of these Gods apear as Man just double the height.
2) The Story of Prometheus, which again is based on one Titan who created us from clay, using his genes he creates us in his image. This is done without the consent of the other Titans. He then also steals Fire from the Titans to give to his Children.
So i my theory is that somehow a group of Space Jockeys/Engineers set off and created Mankind and left clues of where he came from. He created us maybe without the knowledge of the other Space Jockeys.
Thus the Space Jockeys may be a little suprised when we turn up and think who are they, or how did they find us.
The Map room shows a Hologram of Earth so maybe they knew about us, or not.
Again maybe instead or aswell, we come across their temples and maybe the remainder of their race are dorment. But they are awoken when they find we are up to no good and messing about with their secrets to create life and even stealing some.
But then how do we explain the one Jockey that is dead and has his head cut off, who did that? Another Space Jockey?, the crew of Prometheus.
And whats with that Alien looking Murial?
There are so many posibilities. And we may be close or not even close, i guess its not long to wait.
Whats also interesting is a few people online claim to have seen things from the set, but they could be just talking BS. One report is that there are Aliens or Simular in this movie that are killing the Jockeys.
Another is that there is a Alien lifeform in this movie that is larger than the Xenos.
The one thing the Production Team said was the crew of Prometheus set out to find mankind origins but come across a Race of Bio Mechanical Killers which implies a not friendly race... but is that Space Jockeys or Alien Organism?
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 5:59 PMi AM SO HAPPY AFTER READING ALL OF THIS...because one of if not the first thing I said after the first leaked trailer was..."I betcha this all starts with some sort of discovered "INVITATION" to a Dance In Outer Space, somewhere on Earth. It was a great idea then, and it is a great idea now, and I love what you guys have done with it, just fantastic, highly creative, love it

BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-03-2012 6:06 PMIn the scheme of the Galaxy Zeta Reticuli system is actually not that far about 40 Light Years.
The Closest Star System next to Sol is Alpha Centauri which is about 4 Light Years away.
I would assume that no matter where you are in the Galaxy rge closest you would find two different Stars systems would average to about 4-5 LY. So a race who can travel from Star System to Star System should have no problems traveling as far as Earth is from Zeta Reticuli.
Your theory about the Space Jockeys being a Race created by the Engineers and then wiping their creators out is interesting, that depends on who you think the Space Jockey are.
Because if the Space Jockey are the race who invented those Pilot Suits then would that mean they are the Blue Guy, which would then mean are the Derelict Space Ships the Space Jockeys?
And again why does a Space Jockey apear to be dead with head cut off in the one scene?
Whats interesting is the ampule canisters have markings on them that do not corispond with the markings on/in the Temple, on the head statue or indeed in the Derelict Ship.
The Markings on the ampule canisters looks more like Predator markings.
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Prom_queen
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 6:47 PM"...we really should be looking at that big UFO, I think that is part of the puzzle we are all overlooking."
Yes! That great big pancake in the sky. We only see an ominous glimpse of it over the waterfall. It's baffling. Now whether it's good guys or bad guys...

CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 6:50 PMIts been in front of us the whole time and we have mentioned the possibility in several topics now...
THE UFO IS THE TEMPLE COMPLEX which is NOW BURIED on the Blue Meanie
World.
:)

Prom_queen
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 6:52 PMBut are they meanies? We are [i]led to believe[/i] they are in the trailers, but I wonder.

CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 6:55 PMHahahaha... sorry I just started calling them the BLUE MEANIES out of fun awhile ago.
I still think we are talking 2 different species though. I feel that there is a JOCKEY and there is "something else".

artyoh
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 7:02 PMThe "saucer" could be a device used for terraforming. The surface details -what we can can make out, anyway- look similar to those on the now-familiar lumpy boomerang.

centrosphere
MemberOvomorphApr-04-2012 1:08 PMThere is another problem with the theory. Zeta Reticuli is very close from Earth in cosmological sense. If we today already have the technology to find terrestrial-like planets, I think the blue guys certainly would be capable of finding earth-like planets and even would be able to listen human broadcasts from Earth. So why in the Hell they would need to sit there and wait for us?

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-04-2012 1:18 PMLove that theory CanadaPhil !
~Regards from Montreal.
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