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yrufsok
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 5:23 PMHi
Firstly, hello to everyone, (as im new here)
Secondly, been a fan of the alien series since 1979 when i saw the first one at the movies here in the UK, (might be an age give away there)
As the title of this post suggests, its the time line that i have a problem with, this might have been mentioned on here before, but when dallas and kane first get to the alien ship and find that chap, person, thing, in the big chair, he is fossilised which would suggest its been there for 1000s of years, and not, as this story line goes in earths recent history.
Also, from my point of view i would have liked to see this story told from the big chap, person, things view and not have any humans in the story
I know that in the orginal they set down on LV 426 on company orders and i guess that the company knew about this alien craft, OR did they set down because mother was programmed to intercept messages of any kind......my memory is failing, must be an age thing.
Anyway i would have like to see that.
When i heard that a new alien film was to be released, i thought cool cant wait to see it, but now ive seen the trailers, im not too sure.
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bioengineer
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 6:12 PMi also thought that it would be a story with no humans, if it were to be a prequal story about the sj. like thier own story

chthon
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 6:37 PMNo humans? Really? That would be tough film to make commercially.
Though I agree the whole archeology. / origin of man thing is a bit worrying.
The original Alien successfully conveys a sense of an 'abundance of mystery in a vast unknowable universe.
If Prometheus is just an exercise in 'defining and limiting' it will go the same way as the star wars prequels.

Late
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 8:46 PMHey Yru - it's not a memory thing. The debate in the flick was if it was meant to be "distress" or "stay away". It'd be interesting to see a movie dealing with opposite perspective - Eastwood did that with "Letters" - but you are spot on, it never was clear and the potential sequel could deal with their take. Love to see a crew flick, followed by an SJ flick to get both point of view.

pol III
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 8:48 PMTrue, part of the appeal for Alien was that the SJ was there and no explanation was provided. Anomalies can be good in film. The incident happened and the viewer was a fly on the wall which that contributed to the realism. Prometheus is different. If you're gonna go "big picture", you have to really deliver in a different kind of way.
Ash's directive was to, I believe he said, "bring back life form". That was the primary objective. All other objectives were subordinate, or some such language. Ash knew the score from the start.

Late
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 9:05 PMGood point, pol. Forgot that Ash was dicking around the ship for awhile and definitely had an agenda. Forgot about that.
With the bigger picture - we were [i]observing[/i] in that film, and now in this, pretty sure we have an[i] active[/i] role. Solid job - oh, and Ash always was a bastard.

allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 9:24 PM@yrufsok
If it helps you:
I do not recall the exact words, but Dallas' observation on that which is now referred to as the "Space Jockey", is that it "looked like", or, "almost" was, or,"seemed" to be - fossilized.
He had no clue what he was looking at and the poor man made an approximation of what that was, based on the experience available to him.
You could interpret it as license or latitude as you please, but because Dallas interpreted the Space Jockey as "looking fossilized", does not necessarily make it so, on our terms?
Who knows how an alien decays, at what rate it decays and what characteristic that decay exhibits?
On Earth, fossilization normally only occurs after the deceased is covered for a long time with sedimentary deposit.
Perhaps a dead alien, exposed to perhaps an equally alien, primordial, atmosphere, is prone to petrification in a matter of weeks? Or days? Or hours?..
On Mother:
As I recall, Mother was declared as being programmed to respond to any signal it determined was of intelligent design - I don't believe it ever suggested or assumed that it was a distress call, (as they obviously could not have recognised it as such if it was), they were just obliged to investigate it.
It was only after their arrival that it was part-decoded as "sounding like" a warning.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 9:34 PMSo true, if you recall, Dallas was a very compartmentalized type of guy, a delagator of tasks mostly. He tells Ripley when confronted, "I don't know Ash runs the science department" etc etc...he really is flippant about it and does not really care because the science thing is "not his bag".

DimaB
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 10:44 PMSuggestion from one of the "leaks" - it all takes place on EARTH at the time it was terraformed, meaning Prometheus traveled not just through space but through TIME (which Lindeloff would be an expert on considering the mess we had to figure out in LOST's time travel season)

craigamore
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 10:50 PMI've said this many times... but I can't stand the idea that this has time travel....I also see no evidence of this anywhere that we can TRUST....and that, to me, is the giveaway..

Late
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 11:51 PM@Spartacus - yer right, forgot how pragmatic Dallas was during this, because it didn't pertain to the daily gig of running the ship. Hell - gotta go watch it again, just to see how it plays out.
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