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The derelict is alive

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2fray2

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:09 AM
Ok dudes ! It seems a little bit crazy... But imaginie: the vessel is alive. When you think that the vessel structure is "exo-skelleto-biologic" or "bio-mechanoid" note that In that case, the space jockey is not especially a "pilot", but just the heart of this "host"... voila, voila, c'est la vie... crazy ?
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Mark Cawley

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:16 AM
I said this a while ago.........in another post, that the ship is also capable of self repair. And i still think it....im glad im not alone on this lol.

Mark Cawley

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:17 AM
I said this a while ago.........in another post, that the ship is also capable of self repair. And i still think it....im glad im not alone on this lol.

Xenokiller3

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:17 AM
Plausible.

The High Priest

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:19 AM
More than plausible, I think that idea is neccesery!

kellicotti

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:23 AM
Makes sense! Have you read the post regarding the SJ "suit" and how it is literally biomechanically connected to the ship? I think it was first mentioned on the thread regarding the new images, specifically the mural.

BellaisanAlien

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:31 AM
In fact it could be possible that a xeno could eventually grow to become the derelict ship.......

Shilliam Watner

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:42 AM
The ship self repairs? In other words it's like a Borg Cube.

NoXWord

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:55 AM
Or a Corg Bube, Shilliam Watner. Anyway, I would love the idea.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

jujutsuka

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 8:56 AM
I think it's very plausible that the ship is alive and can self-repair. Like previously mentioned technologies (Borg), I was also thinking of the large ship from Skyline that reassembles. (On a tangent, that talk of reassembly makes me want to watch Vampire Hunter D and Hellsing again...) Re-assembly could also quell the fears of some that there is more than one SJ ship, i.e., the one in Prometheus isn't the one in Alien. We see the Prometheus ram the SJ ship, and we we see the SJ ship crash, but nobody can say for certain that the SJ ship is out of commission.
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Necrofan

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:01 AM
2fray2, we seem to have made the same thoughts known on the same day today... mine I talked about in someone else's thread... the gist being the ship is as alive as the Space Jockeys, Xenos, and the big giant head, a result of the "means of life" being misused by those who stole it millions of years ago, and used it to seed earth with before the gods found out and everything went terribly wrong. Hell, the planet could even be going through some kind of transformation. All because of the theft - making the Space Jockeys the original Prometheus in this story.

Necrofan

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:04 AM
If the ship were alive, the eggs that are eventually found could actually be produced by the ship itself, trying to find a means to reproduce. Not the ship's fault, necessarily, just a perverted result of the misuse the "fire."

Necrofan

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:08 AM
I also think if we are to believe that such a literal Prometheus-like character existed at some point because of the new mural pic that was released, we can assume that, at some point, ZEUS is going to show up and crash the party, so to speak. My mind goes back to the clouds forming in the sky during the trailer...

ukalien

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:14 AM
I also had post about this ages ago and people laughed at the idea. It makes perfect sense of how the eggs came to be laying about in the underneath of the derelict. There clearly will be no queen in this movie so how the fcuk was they all laid? So if the ships alive it could be capable of laying eggs

ada

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:20 AM
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Constealltion88

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:23 AM
SJ equivalent of Bio warfare maybe? Crash a fully "grown" ship with all of its contents on a planet and just let a speices curiosity do the rest? Like on LV-426? HmmmmmM?

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 9:53 AM
so you are saying that xenomorphs are baby space ships who grow up to be derelicts that fly around the galaxy? no offence but I hope the plot doesn't take that route

2fray2

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:01 AM
Plants and trees are alive even if they don't look like.. Life can take many many forms :)

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteApr-12-2012 10:02 AM
I would rather go down the route that a Xenomorph hive has the potential to become a derelict, or at least the shell of one. An interesting idea nonetheless.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:03 AM
it would certainly explain the egg chamber under it at the end of Alien Snorky!

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:05 AM
er... my mistake, at the "beginning" of Alien.

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:06 AM
I have been reading Alien the last few nights. I do get the impression that the ship is organ or grown rather than created. I don't think it constitutes as to being alive, at least alive as we know it.

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteApr-12-2012 10:14 AM
So explain the pilot growing out of the seat, or the fact that the corridors of the shape have bones?!?

Constealltion88

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:31 AM
Perhaps not alive, but made grown or fused from organic material. I've always felt like the Derelict have a very eery yet biological look about it.

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:31 AM
@snorkelbottom It is conceivable that the SJs grow the ship and it is organic in nature but I am not willing to believe that a xeno grows up to be a spaceship. Besides, we have already seen a queen lay eggs so we know the process. The eggs in the ship are easy to explain. They were laid by the alien that hatched from the SJ

ukalien

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:34 AM
maybe the ship is feeding off the SJ, like how a snake would digest its food over long period of time?

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:43 AM
@ukalien Possible. But more probably that SJs have evolved beyond using metal and plastics to growing everything organically. I expect if you were to visit the SJ home world they would live in organically grown houses made out of the same material. I'm not dissing your theory, I would just take a bit of convincing :-)

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:44 AM
@ukalien Possible. But more probably that SJs have evolved beyond using metal and plastics to growing everything organically. I expect if you were to visit the SJ home world they would live in organically grown houses made out of the same material. I'm not dissing your theory, I would just take a bit of convincing :-)

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:46 AM
[quote]The eggs in the ship are easy to explain. They were laid by the alien that hatched from the SJ[/quote] That's what I thought about 18 months ago, have found out different since then, the truth is we really don't know this for a fact. In fact it is IMO the biggest mystery left over from the film Alien.

BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-12-2012 10:48 AM
I think the Ship is bio mechanical in a way but i dont think it is alive as in can controll itself. The ship i feel is mearly like a Snails Shell. or a Oysters etc. EDIT FROM SPARTACUS--> AND GETTING YOURSELF BANNED = PRICELESS lol... fantastic that made me chuckle.

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Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 10:49 AM
1st off that facehugger would have had to have been a Queen, and as Snorky has pointed out the hole leading down into the underbelly/cavern is pretty big. Did a QUEEN BIRTH GROW AND THEN LAY THEM, WHAT ABOUT THE LASER LIGHTS AROUND THEM PROTECTING THEM? There seem to be more questions then answers actually.
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