Peter Weyland there 1st?

That's what I figured, if he's talking to them in the beginning of the movie via a hologram and says he's dead, then he appears later in the movie, the only logical conclusion you can come to is that he's already on the planet they travel to.

I'm convinced that the SJs transmitted a cancer cure to Weyland back in the day and He already knows everything that Shaw thinks she has just discovered. He wants MORE than the SJs are willing to give. Hence the s hits the fan.

Two theories out there.... Wayland is on the ship, they just don't know it yet. He arrived a bit before in another ship.

It wouldn't surprise me if the company had already established themselves on the planet and sent Prometheus to run some sort of "Crew Expendable" mission/experiment they had no idea they were a part of. I think thats part of this film that is getting over looked alot, the greed and lack of compassion for loss of human life of the company.

I think he arrives after. If you notice in the trailer, when the crew are being attacked in the hanger, in the background is an old man with a stick. It looks like they have just arrived.

HAHAHA!! an old man with a stick. Talk about bringing a stick to a gun fight!? thanks @TheNextLV426, I'm going to have to go back and rewatch it--which trailer was that? time?

yea but he'll look back on the moment fondly, lmfao.

"It wouldn't surprise me if the company had already established themselves on the planet and sent Prometheus to run some sort of "Crew Expendable" mission/experiment they had no idea they were a part of. I think thats part of this film that is getting over looked alot, the greed and lack of compassion for loss of human life of the company." --very well put @Constealltion88. Weyland cuts deal to bring human guinea pigs to the engineers in trade for immortality bio-tech and either he, or im assuming maybe Vickers, steals something, and that the crew of the Prometheus fights back, and that WAS NOT the deal that Weyland cut with the engineers, and thats why the sh*t hits the fan.

OR Weyland made a deal with the Predators on LV-342 first. That would explain everything.

Somebody had posted briefly in another thread, that Weyland had arrived on the planetoid in another ship before Prometheus, with another David android to tend to him, and had dealings with the Engineers. In some of the early leaked plots it said that humans upon ariving at thier destination in space, were greeted by "the gods" who were proud of the level of intelligence that thier first creation had achieved, then transported even deeper into space to a scary yet fascinating world. --This has always held accountability to me in the back of my mind, that Weyland WAS THAT party, and like I said in the previous post in this thread, cut a deal with engineers for some tech and bring human guinea pigs to engineers planet for genetic experimentations. --**ADD @CONSTEALLTION88's POST HERE**-- (just another facet of opinion of whats to come).

@tkfanboy421 The clip I mean is easier to spot in the slow mo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i_g3zpOJmk. Take a look at around 11:24 Of course I may be wrong, but.... Look in the background as the guys come through the door.. There is a guy with a cane. None of the other guys resemble any of the crew so ia mam assuming its another ship

thanks @TheNextLV426

No I'm not having it that he got there first. The reason is story structure..... Why deviate a storyline, ie have to explain how Weyland got to the planet before them, when it is a lot simpler to have him stow away on his own mission in hypersleep. Let's not forget that he is old and he will need a certain guarantee that he will reach 'his' destination intact and with a crew who know exactly what he wants them to 'know'. That's just IMO but I would stake money on him being a stowaway lol* *PLEASE NOTE NO MONEY WILL BE PAID OUT WHEN PROVING ME WRONG ON JUNE 1ST

@TKfanboy421 This doesn't seem to stand. My concern with this is that it’s a lot to account for: Weyland was there first, “figured out” how to become a Space Jockey – by “befriending” them - lures the Prometheus across, in order to sell them out to the Engineers, so that he can proceed with some “deal” that he brokered? All of this – rather than some means to explain away and justify how and why Weyland is there, [IF he is], wouldn’t [i]that[/i] actually be the film you’d want to see? If you consider the matters of explaining [i]how[/i] he would have got there first, “figured it out”, “befriended them”, and what the “deal” could have been possibly have been, you are already into a great big chunk of story, that you either film, gloss over, or have characters stand and deliver 7 minute speeches, or provide voice-overs to explain. I can’t see it: [i]if[/i] he is there, my guess the explanation will be a lot simpler. And the "Crew expendable/Company knew all along" ground is so well-trodden in the Alien story, it's a trench, already. If they go anywhere near that trench and can't figure out a way to avoid jumping in for this film and tell us about when they [i]didn't[/i] know, all along, it's likely I’ll be very disappointed.

I don't see a cane? Imaginations seem to be running wild on this topic. I haven't heard or seen anything that leads me to believe Weyland is the old man.

Well, the image I am thinking of seems to have gone down the memory hole, but I clearly recall seeing production photos from Prometheus with a young (no age makeup) Pearce in a spacesuit inside an alien structure. Funny thing is that Google image search shows thumbnails of the image in question but the original has been removed. So we have a few possibilities: 1) Ridley Scott made Guy Pearce dress up in a spacesuit and pose for a few photos on set to deliberately mislead people regarding his role, leading us to believe he was just another crewmember. 2) A miraculously and improbably rejuvenated Weyland is at some point exploring the alien structures. 3) It was all some crazy dream I had.

Weyland had ALREADY developed another FTL science vessel 30 years prior... THE HELIADES, whos purpose was essentially to do EXACTLY what the Prometheus is doing, yet there has never been any other mention of this vessel other than 1 cryptic line in the Weyland timeline?? Peter Weyland is a guy that seems to have literally become obssessed with searching the universe for the keys to the riddles of who we are. I would bet that a team of horses could NOT have kept Weyland off of that very first science vessel, the HELIADES... I dont think he was going to leave any potential first discoveries related to his osbession to some "hired grunts". I firmly believe He was ON that first vessel... And the exact whereabouts of Weyland were masked in secrecy and misdirection by the corporation back on Earth over the course of 20 odd years. There is a mention of a "Wyeland Memorial Library" just prior to the Prometheus... Yet no mention of how Weyland died? or anything directly about him between the HELIADES notation and the Memorial Library notation.

Dude with the cane [img]http://db.tt/AgyGTEbF[/img] Looks like a walking stick to me at least

Yes Canadaphilman you are right!!! I think the key is in the TED film, somewhere...... In something he says..... there must be..... I am just not intelligent enough to know....... Clearly you are...... Off you go, investigate............. lol

@Next... Thats the pic I was looking for, but your link is bad.. I think you set it us as a still when that is a video clip. Now, I could be mistaken, but I think we are ALL now in agreement that the old guy IS Weyland... I mean... Who else can that possibly be right?.. And he appears to be wearing the more ruggediized version of the suit (also noted in the timline I believe) which he is obviously wearing to help him with his mobility as he is now frail. Now look closely.... Is this not the same suit we have seen being penetrated by the EEL ??? I think Weyland's suit has "Mad Max" style leg bracing with hinged joints to help him stand and walk.

Yeah but he is a stoaway and noow I am drnuk!!!

@CanadaPhil "Peter Weyland is a guy that seems to have literally become obssessed with searching the universe for the keys to the riddles of who we are". ? Sorry - on what are you basing this?

My 'cancer cure transmission' theory fits the facts best and I will accept my reward when proved right.

I know weyland is at the middle of all of this....on the weyland timeline it mentions his father is a professor of comparative mythology, so weyland probably learns something early in life that will be useful later, on the timeline his career hits warp speed after his project over the poles w/ some kind of mirrors(s)?? Maybe he intercepts one of those mysterious beacons...so he probably received all kinds of info that he could decifer and this made him appear to be so advanced....also his TED talk eludes to this...however his arrogance doesnt allow him to reveal his sources....I think Shaws findings in the caves are the last piece of weylands puzzle as to where the transmissions originate, because from the timeline it appears he was working to get there long before anyone else knew where he was going...also, this echos the transmissions the nostromo picked up in alien....and I speculate that weyland knew about it too and waited for the opportune time for someone to travel near it...how sweet of him....but if he shows up there at the end of the prometheus movie, his presence may the catalyst that pisses off the sj's.....we could speculate for days

OK, and here is the old man shot from another angle closer up... Who are these guys?.. They are defending him like a hired professional security detail? He is surrounded by at least 4. I dont recognize any of them.. How could you have 5 stowaways on Prometheus? [img]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6845/vlcsnap2012031922h49m51.png[/img]

If the old man is the one on the left, then that does look a bit like the actor playing Weyland on the TED talks... A bit of a stretch though...

Once again @CanadaPhil, your gift of explanation rings true. What if.....Weyland on earth, for the last 30 years, IS AN ANDROID. Because he got marooned on the alien planet on the heliades expedition, and the company made the android because if the public knew Weyland was gone, or anyone else for that matter- his company would crumble and there would be a hostile takeover and nobody to finish the rest of the puzzle. easy enought to explain. you don't. you let expanded universe fill in the blanks. --i.e. like R.S. hasn't explain the origin of the S/J for the last 30 years. It's part of the enigma.

here's something I posted on another thread, but now I forget which one. I'm only re-posting it here because it picks up with what could happen to Weyland towards the end of prometheus (and is relevant here)......... Somewhere I read that the engineers let loose their favorite bio-weapon on the humans, and that the humans were able to turn said weapon against the engineers.---maybe it's that simple as to why the S/J sets down/crashes a ship on lv-426 (im not convinced it's THE alien ship from lv-223, but a second one) and sets the beacon to stay away, right before he/she/it got chest bursted and died. **also** I think Weyland gets into the alien S/J suit and tries to commendeer the alien ship off of lv-223, and that's why Prometheus is so hell bent to stop it---they find out the real ploy by their "boss" (they were wrong--they were so wrong) ....I believe the blue guys aren't as bad as they are appearing, and are just trying to defend what is thiers, OR what THEY stole from a higher being. (and try to re-engineer human dna along the way to create something else) but have to maybe punish humans for ruining things...again. Or maybe I've just read to much on this site and all the theories are blending together.

I see your point @allinamberclad, but then again, nothing here philisophically "seems to stand". It's all opinionated theory and thats what makes it so good. I'm willing to bet that all my theories are wrong, but when bits and pieces are couple with bits and pieces of opinions from creative minds like @CanadaPhil, or @Sparky, or even yourself, some pretty cool whacked out ideas that sound very very plausible in this genre come alive.