Waterfall saucer speculations.
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alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphApril 14, 20123264 Views34 RepliesOk forgive me if this has been debated before feel free to lock if it has but just what is the relevance of the saucer by the waterfall ?
Is it merely a footnote of previous visitations of alien race's in human history to highlight the search for our beginnings, or is there a deeper element to this fascinating footage.?
Could it be a mother ship that houses the derelict type craft or does it have even greater significance ?.
All speculation and Theories will be appreciated if it hasn't been discussed to death already.
I must have missed that debate if it has been.
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PaynoApril 14, 2012
Them bloody UFO's get everywhere, cant even go to another world and there in the way lol

alteredstate.April 14, 2012
Just so long as the creatures inside don't resemble these
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u7m_XkfZeOc/Tt1_5GgbopI/AAAAAAAAAq8/nJ3AKgCQwjk/s1600/CloseEncounters.jpg[/img]
NoXWordApril 14, 2012
In my opinion the saucer thing is going to play a big part in the movie.
We only caught a glimpse of it, while having our attention diverted onto other details more than once.
If this is not the case, then it will be something left behind, exactly like the Derelict and the SJ in Alien, but I don't think that Scott & co are going to repeat the mistake. Unless their plans are actually on a Prometheus prequel, rather than a sequel, but that seems silly.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

alteredstate.April 14, 2012
I indeed to hope it has some more relevance than a mere footnote and in fact bares an important role in the whole mythology of the film. Its one of many areas i'm dying to know more about.

SpartacusApril 14, 2012
[quote]Just so long as the creatures inside don't resemble these[/quote]
Hey alteredstate
at the time Close Encounters May have been "Mainstreem Hollywood" but for the time it was all the same... one Kick Ass Film.

alteredstate.April 14, 2012
agreed sparty i love that film just thought the aliens could of been a bit less cheesy lol

Kane77April 14, 2012
somebody here did a fine job and edited the foto from the trailer.
There you can see this saucer seems to be from far advanced culture..
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alteredstate.April 14, 2012
Its hard to get a sense of scale with the waterfall but i'm guessing its enormous.
GrindolfApril 14, 2012
Some of the other shots from the trailer of an under lit SJ ship suggest that this saucer houses the space jockey ship, other shots also seem to be them standing on it , shaw says "We wont have a home to go back to" on top of it I believe as it opens, at the same time the space jockey ship starts up its flying process, then the Prometheus flies into it and it comes crashing back down...from there who knows
JPApril 14, 2012
Speculation ahoy....
The humanoid it leaves behind presumably is the humanoid in teh cave drawings - Weyland years later gets this information / steals it / or is the SJ in some way?, and in amongst curing cancer, inventing FTL, androids, at last gets teh opportunity to travel back to face the gods (in hiding) and cause mayhem. Gods knowtheir game is up, try to dispatch a cargo of our xeno friends to Earth - David (Weyland's son) prevents, doublecrossing his maker, SJ crashes, get sinfected etc etc


Constealltion88April 14, 2012
I think that we won't know till the last 10 of the movie. Out of everything that is hinted, noted, or shown in the trailers, the saucer scene I feel is the most open ended part of the film.



Constealltion88April 14, 2012
Has anyone else noticed how gnarly the back of the "kings" head looks during the water fall scenes? Looks like someone went clawhammer on his dome.


MentosApril 14, 2012
[b]@alteredstate.[/b] Possibly! I remember in one of the original leaked "scripts" (probably a fake) BUT it stated that the opening of the film depicted a earth being terraformed. I think after the recent 15minute press screening that's probably off the table.
I think the shot probably shows more Sj's arriving OR arriving to terraform LV-223.

alteredstate.April 14, 2012
Its hard to say when it appears in the film iv'e heard nothing to suggest its at the opening.

MentosApril 14, 2012
Anyone else seeing this?
[IMG]http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l507/mentos26/jpg.jpg[/IMG]

alteredstate.April 14, 2012
Cool is it genuine we get a lot of those in the south of england genuine as in an official crop circle mystery as opposed to a photoshop job.?

Ghost SolitareApril 14, 2012
It's all going to depend on the position of that sequence in the film. What if that is not the beginning of the film. What if it's the end? Ha the maps were saying, um done here, we're going here next seeya!

SpartacusApril 14, 2012
[quote]agreed sparty i love that film just thought the aliens could of been a bit less cheesy lol[/quote]
I hate admitting they were...But They Were.
WhyDontTheyFreezeHimApril 14, 2012
@Constealltion88 - Yeah, I noticed that too. Looks like a little chunk has been taken out of his head and scarred over or something. I cant help thinking that the blue guy and space jockeys are different species(even though theres no evidence) and that the saucer is the blue guys ship and the derelict is the space jockeys ship. The 'style' of the two match that way.
Space jockeys = good
Blue guys = bad

alteredstate.April 14, 2012
@ whydontThey freeze him....If that is the case that would be very cool indeed and may account for the promise by ridley of showing something we haven't seen before .
Another thing i cant help thinking about is this special project ridley has had Giger working on adding to the fact of the statement made that he is locking the best stuff away, or is the head design's his work / the interior of the head room and jockey chair is based on gigers work but what is this special project ?
. i am positive that's what he has elaborated on sometime ago regarding gigers involvement but since that statement was made no one when given the opportunity has pulled him up on it.
chthonApril 14, 2012
The SJs are Prometheus, the blue guy is the Gods and humans are the eagle sent to annoy SJs and kill xenos using only our female warriors (as a token of disrespect).
GuestApril 14, 2012
[b]Grindolf said on the previous page[/b] - Some of the other shots from the trailer of an under lit SJ ship suggest that this saucer houses the space jockey ship, other shots also seem to be them standing on it, shaw says "We wont have a home to go back to" on top of it I believe as it opens, at the same time the space jockey ship starts up its flying process, then the Prometheus flies into it and it comes crashing back down...from there who knows
Grindolf, I'm guessing you've only seen the quick cutting trailer, rather than the 'slowed down' version or stills from it?
If that's the case, then I can see how you may have thought this might be the 'saucer' opening up...but it's actually the GROUND in front of the 'pyramid' (or one of them anyway) that is opening up beneath Shaw in the trailer. And the 'space jockey' ship is below Shaw it seems as the opening serated 'plates' match the shape of the ones in the shot of the underlit shot of it.
Personally, I'm hoping the 'saucer' ISN'T supposed to be the 'mothership' of the 'space jockey' ship(s?)...as it's derivitive round shape just doesn't seem as organically 'alien'-looking as the weird 'horseshoe'-shaped 'derelict'.
So I'm hoping the 'saucer' belongs to a totally different race... [i]By the way, when I first heard this movie was going to focus on the 'space jockey', I hoped we'd end up seeing several 'derelict'-style ships in this eventually. And I'm convinced certain things point to there being more than one in this... Either way, one of the things I've always wanted to see was the 'derelict' in flight, so that will be a real highlight for me. By the way, I once imagined the 'mothership' for these looking like a gigantic, gnarly 'sea urchin' without the spines...and the 'derelicts' would exit out of the hole in the bottom of it, lol. However, I'm equally satisfied with the notion of the 'derelict'(s?) being hidden underground![/i]
CervantesApril 14, 2012
Grindolf said on the previous page - [i]Some of the other shots from the trailer of an under lit SJ ship suggest that this saucer houses the space jockey ship, other shots also seem to be them standing on it, shaw says "We wont have a home to go back to" on top of it I believe as it opens, at the same time the space jockey ship starts up its flying process, then the Prometheus flies into it and it comes crashing back down...from there who knows[/i]
Grindolf, I'm guessing you've only watched the quick cutting trailer shots, rather than the 'slowed down' version or actual stills from the trailer?
...because just so you know, the footage actually shows that Shaw is standing on the GROUND in front of a walled 'pyramid' as it opens underneath her...and the opening 'plates' she's standing on seem to match the ones seen above the underlit 'derelict' in the trailer...meaning it's hidden underground.
Personally, I'm hoping that the 'saucer' ISNT some kind of 'mothership'...as it's familiar rounded design seems at odds with the very weird, organic-looking 'derelict' ship design. I'm hoping that they were created by 2 totally different races...
When I first heard that this movie was going to focus on the 'space jockey', I hoped that we'd end up seeing more than one 'derelict'-style craft in this. One of the highlights for me will be seeing this unusually-shaped craft in flight!
[i]I also recall imagining that a gigantic, gnarly, spineless 'sea-urchin'-shaped 'mothership' would look good...with the 'derelict(s?)' emerging out from an opening in the bottom of it...but I'm equally satisfied with them being hidden underground![/i]

belladonnaApril 14, 2012
i thought it would be funny if the saucer fit in the cranny of the SJ ship since its kind of a horse shoe shape.
with their powers combined.... it creates captain planet! explains the blue-ish colored guy, captain planet just went bald is all.
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yep, its the same guy alright.
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Gem]n[April 14, 2012
@Cervantes ...
I think we'll see more of the SJ's in the 2nd Prometheus movie ... Ridders said he'll be concentrating on the SJ's homeworld for the one ...
I also thought that the saucer belonged to another race too ... I posted this a while back to show at least 2 species/race ...
[b]Saucer Markings (Enhanced):[/b]
[img]http://oi44.tinypic.com/15yjhae.jpg[/img]
CervantesApril 14, 2012
@ Gem]n[ - Man, the thought of this return to sci-fi surroundings by Ridley is exciting enough...but it would indeed be awesome if he DOES end up returning to this in a sequel too!
Interesting that you think the 'ampule' urns may be linked to the 'saucer' originally. I'm not so sure about that, but that's an interesting possibility.

alteredstate.April 15, 2012
Thanks for all your thoughts and comments and @ bella love your sense of humour long may it continue.
DukeApril 15, 2012
Pay attention people . . . to Ridley. Do any of you happen to recall the live interview he did on location in Iceland? You know, the place where this water fall exists? He was there on the final day of filming, but actually filming the opening sequence of the film, per his words. So what we see with the waterfall and the saucer is in the opening sequence of the film. Let the speculations continue . . .
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