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Could David create a space jockey?

macdad123

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So we see David 8 and Holloway sharing a drink at the pool table in one of the tv spots. David asks Holloway "what would you be prepared to do to get your answers" meaning the discoveries Holloway has made on earth, creation and perhaps who the jockeys are and what role they played in mankind, the whole shebang.Holloway answers "anything and everything". Now we don't know at what point this scene takes place, I'd hazard it's after landing and David's study of the dna type goo and perhaps the crew finding the jockey race all long dead with David basically daring Holloway into being transformed to fully understand mankinds creators. We then see David being enthralled by the substance in the jars and taking it back on board to study. "Big things come from small beginnings" he says with a drop on his finger. I'm guessing this is what is used on Holloway with Davids knowledge to transform him into a jockey.My thinking is the jockey race is long since dead but this goo holds the code of thier species or something. We know that other crew members are attacked by an already dangerous creature with some nasty transforming abilities (something developed by the jockeys and perhaps an aid to their downfall) and we see at least one of them going crazy in the hangar after infection but nothing of Holloway after the eye bug and approach to the ship shots. What's he transforming into? I'd say the blue guy and it's all thanks to David and his jockey technology studies. It obviously goes wrong with Holloway becoming evily corrupted, maybe he's angry at how ugly his and shaws baby turns out. And David realises this towards the end. Just throwing it out as he definitely becomes something different from those attacked by the cobra but we don't see anymore of him in the trailer after he approaches the ship.
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colonelangus
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or, we could buy into the idea that David turns into the Space Jockey. they are a biomechanoid species right?
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Frantz
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From what they told to us about david and from what we know from trailers , spoilers or whatever lead me to think hes really "innocent " , maybe more a victim than a manipulator of events .
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very plausible suggestion. with the assumption david8 is going to be a pivotal figure in the narrative all kinds of possibilities emerge. he will have had plenty of time on his own, never a healthy thing for a young growing mind. he may have become somewhat, disconnected. add to the that the apparent subordinate, menial role he is given when the crew awake, who could blame him for developing a healthy resentment of the meat puppets. a short step then to experimenting on them to attempt to fabricate an engineer.
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macdad123
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@ Frantz Maybe he studies the jockey technology to a point and thinks it may provide the answers humans are looking for. Perhaps he thinks he's doing a good deed and after seeing what actually transpires tries to rectify it in the chair room on the derelict. Anyway who knows, I'm literally going bonkers in anticipation for the film, thinking up all kinds of scenarios as most of us are lol.
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Seriously, the jockeys/Engineers are the same group. At least i hope so. If David turns into the Space Jockey that we all know from Alien, then i'll be super pissed. As a matter of fact, i'll stab someone in the face with a soldering iron, how about that?
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It's totally clear if you watch the trailers that David8 is the one who creates the Predator from the Blue Guy (who was grown from the head of a Space Jockey). It happens right after Vickers has the flamethrower fight with mutated Janek.
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Well the jockey/engineer seen in the trailers is one of two scenarios for me he's either a rogue engineer who goes nuts and kills off his brothers (probably with some horror creatures he/they created) then goes to sleep in his techno bed only to wake up when prometheus arrives or the jockey/engineer race wiped themselves out with some awful bio experiment concocted in their lab and a Prometheus crew member becomes a fully fledged jockey/engineer species thanks to there race survival/transformation goo.
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People on this site seem obsessed with this idea of David becoming or creating the spacejokey/enigineer...have no idea why. Anyway I have a friend who worked on the movie and I asked him about this..there is no evidence of this happening and he worked on some key shots. The goo is what is key to the movie however.
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It's a hard-core sci-fi kinda thing, because of all the myriad implications, ironies, etc. that would flow from that particular angle.
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macdad123
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@nostromo77 maybe because he's (David) in several shots looking amazed at this key to the movie goo. What does the goo do?, it obviously transforms things and David looks like he's the goo master so it's hardly a jump to think David is key to a transformation. It's not the cobra and it looks likely it's used on Holloway so what does Holloway become? We see cobra bitten members going ape and looking ugly as hell and Holloway transforming but looking chilled.Then no more Holloway teasing but the Big blue guy appears. Yes it's speculation but it's hardly baseless and it's also fun.
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@paulr Very funny. @Frantz I'm still a hung jury on David - I just can't figure out whether he's a Good Guy or a Bad Guy: his pompous marching up those steps in the recent trailer talking about, "Oh, yes, well - a [i]far[/i] superior species, [i]obviously[/i]....", or something like that: man, that knocked the breath out of me - now, I don't know what to think of him. Is he capable of this of playing God with the Engineers' Gloop [tm]? I'm thinking, maybe, yes...
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I'm guessing that neither human, nor android will have the slightest inkling of how to [i]control[/i] the Sj tech. In fact, it looks to me like the Engineers have their hands full, dealing with it.
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@paulr Im sorry, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!
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When David asks Holloway what he'd be willing to do, don't forget that he's probably been reading H's dreams, and probably knows what he'd be willing to do. David seems to be very interested in motivations. Maybe because he does not have any independent of the directives he is given. I think he's neither good nor bad, just like we're neither good or bad. He laughs to himself when Weyland says he has "no soul" because he probably suspects that - like him - we are creations that don't have one either. Or, at least, we have one to the extent he does. If anything, he can be compared to a child - much like the replicants in Blade Runner, who only had a few years to put together the experiences that we take for granted.
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I could never understand how an Android, David8, become something he can not be. Meaning, the Space Jockey predates us billions and billions of years or trillions, I guess, the fact of the matter is our technology is legacy compared to theirs. The fusion of synthetics, granted having some sort of biological materials for the sake of being a human like robot. He is no more than a walking super computer. I just can't buy into it. DNA is an important element, what that black goo holds is anything and what it is linked to is a mere mystery. DNA here as we know it is nothing more than the blue of that particular specie(s), it is known that even a chicken holds DNA linked to various extinct species and by the account of triggers within that DNA. Ok, I see what your saying, David8 being the so called "Mad Scientist" and having the knowledge to use this ability to bring back the extinct Space Jockey, if that's the case. I still can't see it happening.
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@silica But what do you mean, "he's probably been reading" dreams? What's given you this opinion?
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silica
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@amber [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2388]this[/url]
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the goo is royal jelly!!!
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allinamberclad
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@silica Oh. @royal-jelly I LOL'd. Then I said, "[i]Hmm....[/i]".
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David does not turn into a Space Jockey. None of the crew turns into a Space Jockey. That is a silly idea with no reason or evidence. In fact, David gets his head knocked off by an Engineer. I saw the TV spot that shows his headless body next to the pilot seat. So that puts that stupid idea to rest.

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