does curiosity kill the cat?

sparky209

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So, After a thorough search and analysis of most all I know of this movie I've come to a realization. Our(meaning the members of this board) are under the impression from what Scott has said, that the jockeys/engineers created us. or that the life on earth was seeded by a greater power... I have no issue with this but what I do have an issue with is this.... SPOILERS(maybe) : Why in the pluperfect hell would our creators feel the need to destroy us when we come to find them? If they created the human race(millon or billions) of years ago why do they feel threatened by us when we stumble upon the last SJ(I assume he is the last from script spoilers and/or casting spoilers)? As we see in the trailer the derelict(as I've seen it called) takes off towards earth? What do they(SJ's/engineers) stand to gain by going back to earth, presumably, for a second time? My thoughts : As the trailers have shown us one or more of the characters is transformed by something(black goop, cobra thingy, eye worm... the list goes on). IF we assume that the SJ on this planet is the last of them, does going back to earth give it a way to repopulate perhaps? IF, changing the characters(holloway, and the mohawk fellow) some how turns them into SJ's as well, does the earth offer a back up plan to extinction? If not then why go BACK to earth? I don't see the connection... an interesting aside : I have noticed a considerable amount of "prometheus" talk as of late. and its correlation to the movie. if it's simply a name, or more than that? does the story of prometheus play any role? one of the things I know is the idea of prometheus spans several cultures(who had no contact like we hear in the trailers from holloway and the picto-grams), christianity, islam, egyptian mythology, to name a few. they all speak of mans beginning and its roots in "clay"... each of these genesis stories refer to the fact that man was made of clay by a higher being. in my mind I see the word "clay" as the element carbon, I've had debates with professors about this actually. The primitive understanding of life then was we all came from the same "stuff"... and that stuff is carbon.... all life on earth is carbon-based. does this mean all the life we encounter in the movie is going to be carbon-based as well, jockeys included? or is the interaction with the non carbon-based lifeforms what causes the transformation of the characters? What would actually happen if we encounter life based from another element? If the jockey's are not carbon-based then what is the point of visiting earth? why create people in the first place? If we breathe oxygen and they(whatever they are) breathe something else, whats the draw to earth? Just some wild theories and conjecture from this guy...

MolokoPlus
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May 13, 2012

I'd like to do a point by point analysis on your post but let's put it this way, as 1darkjedi has pointed out elsewhere and I agree totally: "we've only seen less than 5 or so minutes of the film....." So FIVE MINUTES of actual footage plus RIDLEY SCOTT interviews where he flip-flops from one interview to the next equals ALL SPECULATION. I was so afraid that I ruined the movie for myself because I read every interview, watched/dissected every piece of footage and photo, read supposed drafts of the script and so on, that I forgot that this move is 2 hours plus and THAT ALL WE'VE REALLY GOT IS A HANDFUL OF PHOTOS, FIVE MINUTES OF FOOTAGE AND CAREFULLY ANSWERED (SEE AMBIGUOUS) QUESTIONS BY SCOTT AND COMPANY. What I'm trying to say is, WE'VE GOT SHIT. Even the trailers are probably perfectly selected to egg us on and come onto sites like these to proposes theories and START THREADS WITH SPOILER IN CAPS!!! This is not to say it isn't fun or to disapprove or belittle everyone's hard work and contributions here, but the point is we don't really know anything and what we're doing is comforting ourselves as fans till this amazing movie comes out. It's so fun coming here and over analyzing a split second frame and writing thesis statements which go off on wild tangents. I LOVE IT!! So no need to be careful what we say or put SPOILERS everywhere because unless you've got a copy of the final product or worked on the film from start to finish, we don't know jack. Ultimately, this site helped me rest assured that when June 8th comes around and I'm sitting in the IMAX with dirty 3D glasses on, I WILL BE AMAZED AND SURPRISED!! Sure I might know a LITTLE MORE than the guy or gal next to me, but our experience will be very much the same. Carry on, friends.

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May 13, 2012

there are so many IFs and assumptions here it's hard to say. But there is no basis at all for some of them. we see a single, or 3 space jockeys....well if an alien civilisation saw the moon landing would they have been right in thinking the human population on earth was extinct? nope. we've seen about 1-2seconds, tops, of engineer footage, and there is nothing to suggest an extinction, civil war, entropy of a spiecies. RS has said that this world is just an outpost for the engineers. I think its somewhere they either designate for First Contact, maybe a quarantine place, while they assess what the new species is like. we can expect uncivilised behaviour, but that could mean anything really. No one gives a second thought about a swatted fly... we see the intruders to the ampules getting infected with something.... we lay mouse traps, bug shockers, fly spray, hunt wolves, foxes, we hunt for fun, just to hang heads on walls, or take a picture of a carcass. BUT, there is nothing to say that any of the transformations we see in the trailers (so far) are directed by the Engineers. They could be nothing more than technology to keep out intruders, the equivalent of an electrified fence, possibly foolproof. we don't see the derelict ship head back to earth, we infer that, but could be being purposefully misled. I hope we have been, i'd love it if none of us had got much of an idea about what really happens in the film :-) on the subject of clay/carbon...no one can answer those questions until they've seen the film, but i doubt they'll arise as plot points tbh, does it matter which part of the atomic table the building block of a worm is? What i like about your post most is that it's obvious you're itching to see the film, i'm in the uk, and i think its less than three weeks now before i take the day off to find a screen :-)

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May 13, 2012

"Why in the pluperfect hell would our creators feel the need to destroy us when we come to find them?" I am yet to get married but are you going to let your kids access your hard drive - purposefully or by accident ? I mean seriously you can use same analogy here. There are some personal things and some things we don't like to pass to future generations. You can also take example of pets here. Killing maybe overkill but still, if they can recreate us in anyway or time, then surely there is not much value of our species to creators. Love from god or "god loves you" type of emotional games, are just to pass time.

Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

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May 13, 2012

We don't know yet. Here are the possibilities I've come up with so far: 1. Maybe the folks we run into aren't the same folks who had a hand in our creation. Could be a usurper culture like the gods usurped the titans. They might be giant dicks. 2. Maybe this is some sort of first contact test and we flunked it so badly that there really is no alternative but to hit the reset button on humanity. 3. Maybe we are completely misunderstanding their motives and they are really just running out to buy ice cream and cake for a big party in our honor. 4. Maybe we were never supposed to go there at all and the "invitation" was left by some outlaw element and our arrival is a complete shock to them. In that case, we know too much and must be destroyed.

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May 13, 2012

You better leave Schrödingers Cat out of this!

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May 13, 2012

sparky209 lol.

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May 13, 2012

Sorry, I didn't read all of your post, I stopped at-and I'm paraphrasing-"why would our creators want to destroy us when we come to find them." That's not the case. If in fact they do want to destry us it's because we "steal their technology." That's the reason the films called Prometheus. I'm not going to go over the story of Prometheus because everyone here knows it.