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I just want advice on how my little brain deals with this... Blade Runner is set in 2019, its 2012. So when the time comes will it be the images of an alternative world and future, a fantasy, a dark fairy tale (I like that) or other? Opinions please...
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Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
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I feel that if that kind of world is ever destined to be 'our' future here upon Earth, with those levels of technology that are discussed and pondered than we should really be thinking in terms of 2319 or something like that. I feel the date that is used in someways 'Dates' the film, forces it down a road which takes away some of the potential future-magic or horror that could await us and our destiny on Earth. By giving it a wider future-date it sets it apart from us as a potential 'Near-Future' experience without us looking at it and going: "well they haven't invented that yet, and they were wrong about that and they said this was going to happen in 2019 and it hasnt happend yet" and so on. Just like 2001: A Space Odyssey, many things suggested have not come to pass yet. Don't get me wrong, love 2001: A Space Odyssey, love Blade Runner, just be a bit more say 'fancy-free' with the dates so it doesn't pingeon-hole the franchise too much. Star wars is an example. We all know it was made in the seventies but bar some of the hair cuts it doesn't have anything that really dates it and sets it definely into the time that it was created.
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I don't want another Blade Runner movie. :'( Let that gorgeous movie alone. Move on.
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@David 1 Absolutely!!! M
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Mithra: thank god someone agrees
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I 2nd @David 1, I don't want any more Blade Runner films, beauty is often that because of that first glimpse... not knowing why you took that glimpse, or the ins and outs of that look. To dissect (or add more to) a thing may well change it, I don't want it changed anymore... it's a close to perfection as I've seen! And @I'd rather be eating something else I feel its the sideburns that date Star wars! :)
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Well a lot of people felt that Prometheus being an 'Alien0like' prequel shouldn't have been made... yet here it is! As long as the universe is expanded upon and other subject wether related or indirectly related to Blade Runner then that is fine. I would like to see the exteroir of the exterior of Blade Runner. If Ridley Scott took Hampton Fanchers 'internalized script' and opened it out to the 'wide blue yonder' and what takes place outside the buldings and all the rest of it then what about a story that is expanded beyond that. Space exploration that comes back to Earth and potentially 'ends' where Blade Runner begins. A sequel that has no direct bearing to continue on with the established characters form Blade Runner exceptsave for that of the city-scape itself: Hades/San-Angeles. Or parallel story/stories where by a sitiuation is happening silmoltaneously while the events of Blade Runner are being played out elswhere (off-screen). We don't see it but we know with enough cues and hints that it is going on its simply implied whether directly or indirectly.
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Yes!!! Its the side burns that do it!!! DAMN those f!@*in things!!! heh! heh! lol!! Good one!!! Punx Good One!!! :-)
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hi punx: I have to be honest. I don't like the idea of sequels [of any kind]. Nor do I like the idea of prequels. For a movie to be perfect, the story must be told once and only once. Aesthetics considered and done. Let the big questions remain unanswered. On the other hand, there are those [Sir Ridley as it seems] that are willing to take another glimpse at a potential story-line diferent from his own original [i.e. the SJs]. I'm ok with that and I even encourage it. But telling THAT side story is one thing [to be done once and ONLY once]; to re-do the hole story is another [and I consider it as a terrible lack of imagination]. That said, I couldn't boooo the Idea of a new Blade Runner movie enough. What follows? Gladiator 2: Rise of the Zombie Maximus?
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I'm not saying change Blade Runner yet again just that the date: 2019, to me, knowing what we know that the majority of what Blade Runner suggests has not happened yet except for a few things takes some of the Near-Future myth away for the level of radical technology upon show, thats all. I do not want to a scene altered through the final cut of Blade Runner either!!! No way!! It's just the date thing that I have not so much an issue with as more an intellectual inaceptance to buy that: "Los Angeles 2019"
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I dont want Blade Runner remade either, but I do feel that their is a wide scope of mythology to explore still (in this context by mythology I mean the universe and themes that Blade Runner has already set up and addressed). Yes, I do like the idea of living with the mystery too and am all for that also, but if a film directly or indirectly connected to Blade Runner was to come out I as well as you would be a sucker for wanting to see what tyey were going to show... The Mutiny aboard the ship which then forced Roy and the others to come to Earth in the first place? Or during the last moments of the end of Blade Runner where Roy is giving his "Tears in Rain" lament, there is a sort of pull back to reveal the mammoth size of the future-city they are in and a focus in upon anothe 'section' or 'borough', 'suburb' of the city and another 'human drama' is thus in the throes of playng itself out as Blade Runner once was...
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@I'd rather be eatin something else... That cityscape/Hades/San-angeles was termed as The Sprawl in the Will Gibson books, I feel that he is a master of cyber-punk writing and since I read Neuromancer it has remained (by me) being called that, do you know that Will Gibson said his influences were amphetamine, The Ramones and Blade Runner (all sounds like my life lol).
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yeah I know. But that is just P. K. Dick's futurology mistake. There are a lot of books and movies that have their Dates to near present time.
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Same here. No reboots please. Either create prequel or go ahead of the subject and tackly original storyline in different way like Alien resurrection.
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to name a few movies/books with futurologic date "mistakes" 2001 1984 [though the date is pretty much irrelevant to the intention of the story] Blade Runners "2019" Total Recall and I'm not even considering those sci-fi prior to the 70's
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I thought there could be some scope for exploring Maximus' life as a younger man and a soldier in the Roman Army. I'm all for expansionist-ideals and theorums of plot/story lines provided it is done with intellegence, vision and a desire to preserve and compliment the already 'existing' universe.
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No Sky, your getting me wrong. I do not want any reboot or suggestion of a reboot for Blade Runner... Why would I ?! Its near-enough perfect! I just want the mythology BEHIND the mythology perhaps investigated this time you know. Or an 'Empire Strikes Back' size and scale type of continuation upon the themes previously raised yet expanded upon or failing that blasted WIDE OPEN!!! :-)
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No new Bladerunner, please. Who are they gonna cast? Colin Farell, the latest king of 80's remakes???? Leave it alone please.
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IrishAndoid1 we are talking about a continuation upon related themes as is the case for Prometheus not a remake. I must have said three times already! Dont you read the intent and tone of the overall thread??? We're just talking about the franchise, its themes and the wider universe it opens up to thats all
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FOR GOD SAKE! LEAVE IT ALOOOOOOOONE [img]http://www.coldbloodedchillers.com/images/195_hysterical.gif[/img] LOL
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I am already shivering at the idea of what might happen to Robocop, let alone a reboot of Blade Runner... Fast CGI action, a very polished urban landscape, a super strong and almost invincible Roy Batty for an epic final fight with Deckard and his mighty weapons. And teen romance. Ewwww
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Well, you all better get used to it and the idea of it cos' its happening! Whether you like it or not Ridley Scott HIMSELF is in the pipeline for continuing on with the franchise and/or taking it/advancing it I'd like to think into a new direction... So he's the one you should be piping up at!
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It's not going to be a reboot... A continuation of themes. You really must keep current with the intent of the thread. No Reboot... A continual exploration of the Blade Runner universe and issues it raises. NO F!@*ing REBOOT people! O.k. An expansion of themes is what is on the adgenda if Ridley Scott once again is to be belived...
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Yeah. Casting is going to be a problem. Most of the heroes these days are more of chocolate face and less of hero/vilians. We hardly managed to turn tom hiddleton as vilian, i can't imagine heroes for Blade runner. But in case of continuation, yes please something that doesn't screw the original plot, fair enough.
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I trust Mr. Scott wholeheartedly (apart from White Squall, one of the few times I thought - there's time I won't get back). I can't change what is happening, Blade Runner will stand alone and apart for me, Deckard, Zhora, Pris (I had rats called that a long time ago) , in fact all the main characters have completed story and character arcs for their purpose or I will have to add stuff to old tattoos lol (I don't need artistic afterthought).
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I would pipe Sir Ridley... hit him with a steal pipe if he destroys my childhood. lol
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Well you trust him with Prometheus don't you and that, I'm sure is related in some way to Alien wich was part of your childhood too right? Well if you trust that and you have come that far then trust in this also... Because I'm certain its going to be fine. Just opening the lid on the container that contains the contents! I bet that will 'bake your noodles' later on! Lol!
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yeah i'm just goofing around. I give the man his credit.
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Heh! Thats good of you David 1. I'm certain quite a few upon this forum as well as yourself are driven by integrity and intellectual principle upon such things as fan-orientaed continutiy across franchised subject matters and conceptalized themes that direct or in-directly correlate and serve to compliment one-another and that of us as the wider fan-based intellectual community with regards to this material. Thank you. :-)
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@ id Rather Be Eatin Something Else......you're absolutely right, I don't read. Man, people on here are becoming ruder by the day. You are no exception. Again, there are pleasant ways to phrase things but apparently you weren't raised with manners.
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I was raised with manners, I just felt I was repeating myself two to four times or so. Rudeness whether direct or indirect was never my true intention, what may at first sight (or read) appears at least on the surface as rudeness in actuality is more boardred on semi-tolerant frustration. Saying (typing) something once knowing peolpe have read it saying (typing) something a second time, knowing people out there can read but the point has seemingly gone right over their heads so there fore it seems to have to be reiterated upon a third time! It's just my hope that people can get the point essentialy and the topic of the theme at hand or currently in question and not have to need it so oviously spelt out for them. You hope that readers just get the point upon there own without the necessity of having to be reminded constantly about it. I value inter-personal banter and intellectual stimuli within the annals of the subjects that are disccussed upon here and never intend to have to put peoples back up, but it is a two way street and the thread in question was already in progress and had quite clearly been fleshed out and elaborated upon. However, I would rather differ to your co-operation IrishAndroid1 and as a result you would have mine upon here too, alright. Let us not allow a reasonably explained misunderstanding create a wrong impression here on this forum, what do you say?
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Id Rather be Eatin Something Else - it just goes to show how different people can interpret different situations/comments etc differently. Thats what makes us human i suppose.. we are human..arent we??
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Yes, I know Blade Runner Rocks... it's just telling it over and over when it has been so clearly stated the nature of the particular thread in question (i.e: this one) and yet its as if there are those out there who clearly MUST have read and taken in the intellect of the conversation! Yet its as if they come blundering in without any idea and begin spouting off rather less-thought-out comments because they havent ACTUALLY taken in what was initiated at the begining of the conversation in the first place! A some-what naieve approach is self-evident in that regard as a result and its like you have to spend the next several comments later bringing their slight ignorance and narrow-mindedess up to speed to be in line with everyone else! Now sometimes its charitable to do that but clearly some are just plain dumb and come blundering into a conversation without a common sense of reasoning to go with it! No intention to take in the thread and its internal logic from the out set and no attempt to take in the balanced referals at least I KNOW I ATTEMPT to try and convey as evenly and disciplined as can. Some peoples lack of thoght and calibre just annoys me a little. I do love it when people enter into a conversaition with the fore-thought and planned intent to offer real juicy intellectual tone and dialogue for the rest of us to follow the lead upon. Give us all pause for thought, not just mindless brain anatomy with no diciplin in place regarding what they say or contribute as a whole. A little thought that goes into something brings others eventually into line with your way of thinking if you but first flirt with the mind from the get-go!

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