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To understand the Secrets of the the contents of the urns/ampules we first have to separate them into their component parts... [Edited 02-12-2012] [u]The Seed[/u] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusE_screencap7.jpg[/img] A genetically engineered substance created by the Engineers, it is stored within the vials found within the urns/ampules. This thick, viscous black liquid which was consumed by the Sacrificial Engineer (the Seeding) and unwittingly by Holloway, has three underlining properties: 1. When ingested by an organism (Sacrficial Engineer/Hollway) the "Seed" combines with the cells of the organism, causing the host organism to break down at a cellular level - every cell of their body becoming a viral genetic mutagen, capable of being consumed by other organisms. 2. This viral genetic mutagen, when ingested by other organisms, adds/replaces genes of that organism with those of the host whom consumed the "Seed", imprinting the hosts DNA/Genome onto an indigenous ecosystem. This viral genetic mutagen also acts as an evolutionary accelerant, exponentially mutating organisms with the genetic template/traits from the host (LV-223 worms). 3. The evolutionary accelerant aspect of the mutagen also has the side effect of revitalizing dead/dying cells, seeming resulting in re-animation (Shaws womb/Fifield). [u]The Black Liquid[/u] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_screencap47.jpg[/img] The black slimy liquid stored within the urns/ampules is NOT the same substance that was stored within the vials, and contrary to my original theoryis NOT the genetic material of the Xenomorph. This substance is an inert transmission medium, that when combined with the Seed creates an oil like substance, making weaponized transmission of the Seed more effective. [u]The Urns/Ampules[/u] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusK_screencap31.jpg[/img] The urns/ampules are medium for storing and deploying both the "Seed" and the transmission medium. When triggered/smashed the "Seed" (see above) and the transmission medium mix, creating an oil like substance, that is more viscous than the Seed, and a more effective means of transmission. [u]The Xenomorph[/u] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_screencap49.jpg[/img] As shown by this mural, the xenomorph is of some importance to the Engineers. Lets look at their known history regards the Xenomorph... - Thousands of years ago, an Engineer craft carrying a cargo of Xenomorph was forced to land on the moon/planetoid LV-426 when its lone pilot unwillingly became host to one of its cargo. It may be that this craft had previosly visited LV-223 and acquired a payload of the urns before deploying them onto a distant planet. Then after acquiring the eggs that would have remained after the infestation befell its fate upon its return either to LV-223 or the Engineers home world/system. - 2000 years ago, a team of Engineers stationed on LV-223 prepared to deploy a cargo of urns/ampules to Earth, when one of them inadvertantly unleashed the contents quarantining the base. As seen in the movie, the urns are the viral deployment method used to instigate a Xenomorph infestation. The urns were designed to ensure safe transport and efficient deployment of the Xenomorph. [u]The Dark Truth - Completely Rethought[/u] Taking what we have learnt about the urns/ampules, their contents and the Engineers established history with the xenomorph, and combining that with what we have seen in the Prometheus and Alien movies, leads us towards a dark, disturbing truth... [b]Phase 1 - The Seeding[/b] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/sacrificial_engineer_prometheus2.jpg[/img] [b]The Engineers visit primordial planets supporting basic, simple life, whereupon a lone "Sacrificial Engineer" ingests the "Seed", sacrificed his life and seeding the planet with the seed and his DNA, resulting in an ecosystem entirely dominated by the Xenomorph (This is what we see at the start of the film).[/b] [b]Phase 2 - The Rebirth[/b] [b]An ecosystem dominated by the Xenomorph results in the exhausting of viable hosts. To combat this the Xenomorph at a genetic level introduced Y chromosome into its genome, giving rise to infertile males (smooth carapaced warriors), and then fertile males (Kings).[/b] [b]Upon consummating with Kings, Queens become capable of producing a second type of egg, incubating a sub-species of hosts, pale skinned humanoids - Engineers.[/b] [b]Phase 3 - The Harvest[/b] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/david_earth.jpg[/img] [b]Systematically a percentage of these Engineers are drafted into Engineer society. Seeking a more efficient means of reproducing the Engineers weaponize the Seed, for deployment upon worlds inhabited by Engineer children, sired before the weaponization of the Seed (the method of this siring not yet seen).[/b] [b]The Xenomorph DNA, hidden with "human DNA" asserts itself and spreads across the sired planets, resulting in a Xenomorph dominated ecosystem. Once all viable hosts are exhausted, the King Xenomorph is sired and Engineers are born.[/b] [b]Phase 3 - Collection[/b] [img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/AlienInfestedWorld.jpg[/img] [b]The Engineers collect a percentage of Xenomorph (eggs) before transporting them to a location whereby they can be used to produce more Seed (also as yet unseen).[/b] [u]Why Create Only To Destroy[/u] [b]Here's a summary of what we know so far...[/b] [b][/b] [b]- A Sacrificial Engineer sacrifices his life, seeding life upon a primordial world, using his own genetic material. To date we the fans have assumed this action, through natural selection and engineering, resulted in billions of clones/children of the Engineer to evolve, in his image - us.[/b] [b]But The consumption of the Seed by Holloway results in the creation of a Xenomorph in the form of the Deacon, therefore we must assume our initial belief to be false - meaning that the Sacrificial Engineer was not siring a planet of life that would evolve into human form, but instead cultivating a world that would be dominated by the Xenomorph.[/b] [b]- The Urns show that the urns are a means to deploy the Xenomorph amongst human races also sired by Engineers, as shown by the DNA match in the movie.[/b] [b]- The Xenomorph extrapolates genetic material from its hosts, propagating its own kind.[/b] [b]- Once all hosts are exhausted, the Xenomorphs would need a means to continue their existence, otherwise they would die, and only their eggs would remain.[/b] [b]- The Engineers return to gather the eggs.[/b] [b][/b] [b]WHY? Why would the Engineers seed a planet to create millions/billions of clones/children in their image and using their own DNA only to later wipe them out using the Xenomorph? Well I believe I may have the answer...[/b] [b][/b] [b]The Xenomorph, as we know it, is capable of eradicating an entire ecosystem of its indigenous population by using said life forms as hosts to propagate its own species. When gestating inside a host, Xenomorph embryos extrapolate genetic material and traits from their host, to add to their own genome and to adapt to the environment and ecosystem which they have been deployed into. It is this trait of the Xenomorph I believe that holds the key...[/b] [u]Genetic Material[/u] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusO_screencap14.jpg[/img] [b]We, the human race have evolved from and continue to evolve from the Engineers genetic material. Our genetic material, our genome is almost identical to that of the Engineers. This same genetic material is extrapolated by the Xenomorph, a deadly genetic and bio-mechanical creation held in some regard by the Engineers, themselves expertics in genetic and bio-mechanical engineering.[/b] [b][/b] [b][i]To the Engineers the human race are "Maize". Once we have grown to required amount in number and in the required way, we are harvested, and the Xenomorph is the "Harvester".[/i][/b] [b][/b] [b]Our genes/DNA/Genome/genetic material is the "Maize", that is what the Engineers want/need, and the Xenomorph is the means by which to harvest our genetic material. But why?[/b]

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Ancient Alien
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After my 3rd viewing, i definitely noticed the difference every time they show the goo. It looks completely different each time. Seems there's a big deal about who affects it and how it reacts to them. That being said, Shaw sure gets in and out of the Juggernaut control room with ease after it's crash landed.
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@caseball... YOU get it. Thank you for using your brain...
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Simply I think they are a biological war weapon used for the extermination of life throughout the galaxy. They are used to elimate everything on a particualr planet so that the engineers can reseed it and terraform it to their own will (according to the comic concepts) Why? Because they believe some of their creations were inferior,or they are just pure evil and want to enact their dominion upon the galaxy! Through extermination. Also, its like the life cycle. It maintains the balance of organisms throughout the galaxy.If civilizations/races get too powerful, the xenos elimate them in order to restore balaance (according to the comics) Why in a beast like form xenomorpH:the biological weapon.) Because it looks scary and is pure intimidation. Why harvest them? a parasite is a gruesome and unexpected concept of a war weapon (i guess its like biological warfare. it offers a worser death. ) So its a livin parasitical plague.
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i agree on the first 3 points ( well the third im not so sure if Fifield was already dead ) The problem is that i see the Xenos as a random product totally unwanted by the engineers ,and yet the correlation between the urns and the eggs is still up in the air . We will see ....
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I keep thinking back to Alien and our engineer there crash landed on LV-426...his fate was the same as those on the surface of LV-223. The thing about the Xenos is they are a product of a life cycle from a human that has been facehugged but is it's origins from what ever killed buddy? The ultimate question is are those eggs on the derelict part of the plan or an accident? Now is it the black goo that kill them all ??? Perhaps the engineers have enemies or even ruthless overlords. So many questions...I think it's time to put on my Fifield helmet and go into the mountains and think on nothing for awhile! and coffee and Prometheus a little bit, maybe I'll get off the houch and just let it be in peace and lots of coffee. I'm looking forward to cabin fever and playing numerous games of Canadian rulette with a plastic double barrel and one shot nozzel with water filtration ON. I would like to use some Irish whiskey too but that would probably be my very last drink. Days and days completely addicted to Aliens colonial marines blasting cybernetic bugs for humanity and GOD
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Hello, first time poster here! I think the black substance is some kind of "fire", a gift capable of both life and death. In the beginning sequence, we see an Engineer drink some kind of substance, assuming it contains, if not completely made of, the black substance. In this way, the Engineer sacrifices itself to create life on our planet, as we see the deterioration of the Engineer eventually leads to new cells/new life. However, this substance is dangerous, and if used incorrectly can create death (see Alien I-IV). The Engineers created us but for some reason seem to want to destroy us now. Why? Do they believe we are a failed experiment? Have they not perfected us enough because it is in our nature to kill each other? Are there factions as I have read in other posts, and if that's the case, which faction made us and for what purpose? All those questions aside, which I believe we'll find out whenever Prometheus 2 and beyond are released, the black liquid which has the power to create also has the power to destroy. I don't think the [i]sole[/i][b][/b] purpose is to create xenomorphs or an army to destroy things, but along the lines, this is where we find ourselves now. The how and why are to be seen... I do enjoy the fact that this movie does leave a lot of open ends as this allows room for interpretation and discussion. All the people talking about this movie, whether they liked it or not, keeps the movie relevant! I myself loved it and hope they continue to make movies like this that keep us thinking and questioning!
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i agree to a certain degree with the description of the black goo. If we follow the stages that each encounter with the goo produces different results when it interacts with different forms of life then when Hollaway ingested it it broke him a complex organism into primordial material. When he propagated with Shaw it accelerated the simple sperm into a squid like creature. If you look at semen in a microscope it looks much like a tadpole which resembled the creature somewhat. So in theory it could have been genetically accelerated sperm. Just a thought to explain why there was a giant squid. So a giant sperm/squid attacked and propagated with an Engineer and made a Xenomorph. I'll go with that. We have now answered all the nagging plot holes in Prometheus. Seriously though I believe this is what Ridley Scott wanted a movie that left room for many different interpretations. I remember seeing Blade Runner for the first time and thinking about the deeper message of mortality and the innate drive every man has to live and be free.
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Do you think that black liquid is the same in all the containers? I saw in the movie how works, but I'm curious about if is the same substance or is diferent and specifically designed to each world.
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I like to refer to the black goo as "Prometheus' Fire". Not just because it shares the film's title, but because of the several overt references to the ancient Greek Prometheus myth made throughout the film. Prometheus the Titan, an avatar of knowledge (in this film represented by the ship and her crew) created man from clay, and then gifted him with fire. What is fire? Chaos. A source of immense power that, if not carefully controlled, can grow and rage and destroy everything that its very own existence helped to build. I don't think the black goo was intended by the Engineers to be a bioweapon. I think it's something they created or discovered by accident, and are now attempting to harness. Prometheus' Fire is pure biological chaos which, if given the right circumstances, can spontaneously and prolifically spawn all manner of lifeforms in an extremely short period of time, as well as break them down into their simplest forms. Combined with Engineer DNA and given Earth's specific environmental conditions, Prometheus' Fire created mankind (and possibly every other organism on Earth). Combined with the DNA of two evolved adult humans, one adult Trilobyte creature, and one Engineer under uncontrolled circumstances spawned the Deacon Xenomorph. I think this goes along with the overall theme of the film, which is religion in science. Or, more succinctly, "Attempt to equal the Gods, and they shall lay their humbling wrath upon thee." Or something.
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hi everybody, i have a theory about the SJ Someone said earlier that SJ's suit is bio mechanical, and looking at some pictures it kind of grows from him, and it looks like the body of a Xeno. What if some time after creating life on earth, they found the aliens, or maybe created them, decripted their DNA and introduced it in theirs ? the suit is then an exo-skelet. this explains their aggressiveness, and i think that because they are also clones of some sort, through xeno dna they retain all the knowledge of previous clones. it's just a thought
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I have just spent last night battling with the after effects of lunch at a noodle bar. As a result I am delighted to be able to inform you all categorically, and without fear of contradiction, that the black liquid in question, is in fact black bean sauce.
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The OP has been updated with new information, enjoy.

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1. The Engineers apear to be masculine male, but asexual. They look quite similar to each other, but if you look carefully they have noticable different facial structures. 2. The original engineers who created life on Earth don't have any bio-mechanical enhancements on their bodies. The Engineers on the Moon do have radical bio-mechanical enhancements integrated in their bodies. 3. The Engineers are much more advanced than humans for they can create and destroy life on planets throughout the galaxy. 4. The Engineers probably reproduce with artificial wombs/uterus so they grow as embryos in an artificial environment. There genetic and maybe mechanical enhancements are done, defects fixed, to make them superior to basic organic born versions. They probably don't reproduce like humans at all anymore. Hence asexual in the sense that they don't waste time and energy on sex. 5. The deadly weapons which they stored on that moon are biological war-like creatures who evolve into xenomorphs. These are also deadly to the Engineers. 6. Why would they want to kill humans on Earth? They could consider their creation as a threat. Then after they wiped out the human species they could live on Earth and harvest resources. 7. So the Xenomorphs is their weapon of choice to eradicate unwanted species. 8. The Engineers are the Masters > Xenomorphs are savage beasts created by the Engineers to do their dirty work.
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@ Norad, nice theory but nothing supports it in the film The Sacrificial Engineer wouldn't wear a bio-mechanical suit, now would he... - It wouldn't disintegrate with him when he consumes the "Seed". - He was seeding life, not deploying the means to eradicate it. ...As for you artificial womb idea, I kinda like it but it reminds me too much of the farms from the Matrix films. But that wouldn't make them asexual... [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction]Asexual Reproduction[/url] ...it would just mean they are born by artificial means.

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caseball you wrote "I loved this film. It was Kubrickian in its intentional obscurity and invites the viewer to work it out. I've seen it three times now, and there IS more in there. Scott has hidden some stuff in plain sight, but the eye is so overwhelmed by the spectacle that on first viewing you can miss it." That's exactly as I see it. To this day, the more I watch 2001, the more I see in it. The critics that have blasted Prometheus (Forbes mag., Howard Fineman, et al) just don't get it. Period.
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Well, the Sumerian take on things would be solidified by this. Why? Because the Igigi (Engineers) have strayed away from THEIR own creators (Annunaki) Maybe the Annunaki were the only means of conceiving Engineers. And once the Engineers separated themselves from the Annunaki; once they ELIMINATED that possibility, they had to resort to this form of reproduction. Yes, yes,,,
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I'd said in a previous post that I wondered if there was a faction or pecking order between engineers, the difference in ships that they commandeered immediatedly intrigued me. Random aside, I used to play a video game called Star Control 2, in which the main antagonist aliens were of the same race and species but had different ways of perpetuating their credos. I think this in the same way when it comes to the engineers. The engineers we see at first have their own formula of black liquid. It does require a sacrifice, but in giving that life, plants seeds and lays the building blocks and groundwork for life, in its purest form, and in many forms, so that it will eventually flourish. On the other hand, the later engineers we see have their own formula, which does require a sacrifice. But it's not one of free-will, it bends the living organsism in question into a being of absolute aggression, absolute survival, the absolute height of its predatory instinct combined with accelerated pre-existing attributes. It also is a return to purity, but as Ash said, "A survivor…unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality." It simply is what it is, and strives to be nothing more than what it is. So the factions probably have the same motives in mind, it just that one wants to do it with an open hand, inviting. While the other would rather do it with a closed fist, with assailance.
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Nice theory. I came up with something similar but it looks like you had me beat by a good five days. My theory was more or less point for point identical except that I theorize the xenos are just ship-builders and the humans are a way for them to escape sacrificing an engineer to a hugger in order to start a queen.
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could PARADISE be populated ONLY by females? David might 'allowed thru customs' on his 'engineered mechanism' passport. :)
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[size=50]Great hypothesis and this has led me to have a better understanding of the film. However I do disagree with one point, I think the vials do have Xeno DNA mixed with the seed and here is why: David Mixes up the vials before taking the drop out to give to Hollway. I believe Hollway ingested the Seed mixed with the Xeno DNA. In my opinion this is the only way that he could impregnate Shaw with a creature that was the first phase of the Xeno's development. I believe the black liquid that comes out of the urns is also already mixed with Xeno DNA. I believe the Urns in the tomb (or whatever you want to call it) that began to ooze, oozed because they were activated meaning the weapon had been released. I may have to watch again but I don't think the urn that David took had begun to ooze so this one may not have been yet activated. I believe the worms that evolved to the cobra looking snakes had some Xeno DNA in them. The reason I believe this because at first they look like a smaller worm (millipede or what have you) and they do not seem to be predatory in nature (at least in my opinion) they are worms. After they get exposed to the black liquid they evolve into much larger, but also predatory creatures which would tie in the predatory aspects of the Xeno, they also have acid blood similar to the Xeno. My last theory that I would add to your already great hypothesis is that I believe the weapons also have engineer DNA in them. So a seed, Engineer, Xeno mix. What leads me to believe this is the skin of the creatures we see exposed to them. The worms become reptilian like but there skin is light in coloration and smooth similar to human or engineer skin, the same thing with the creature that Shaw gives birth to, which I believe to be a face hugger that has some engineer DNA which leads to its increased size and variation from the traditional face hugger but also its skin is light in coloration and looks more engineerish to me. Also Shaw’s Egg is reanimated, but it is still an egg and could have been used to replace the traditional egg that facehuggers are born from and a mix of engineer DNA may have made this possible (human Egg). Lastly the deacon, the deacon comes out with a more purplish color (Xenos are Black, Engineers are light, so this would make sense in a mix) and the skin is smooth and doesn't have as much of a insect look as the Xeno we see in Alien. Perhaps the Engineers had learned from their mistakes in the ship on LV-426 and wanted to create a "synthetic" Xeno that may actually be able to take orders and direction due to increased intelligence from the Engineer DNA. Or perhaps the Engineer DNA makes it possible for them to use human "eggs" as eggs rather than their traditional hives etc. To me this made a lot more sense but that is what is good about this movie until further explanation you can make up your own mind.[/size]
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neat theories, they all seem to be from the same perspective... so let me toss out another for fun. the Creators were bio-engineers, carefully crafting specific DNA for various planets. at the beginning of the movie, we see a terrorist? experimental scientist? suicide? who steals some DNA stuff, drinks (only way to off himself?) and seeds a planet in a unauthorized way. thus creating a viral infection. earth. a few million years later the Creators realize there are viral alien infestations scattered around the galaxy. they send out cleanup crews to re-seed the planets and fix the problems. canisters/jars = good seeds. different seeds for different places. along the way, accident, the various DNA seeds spill, mix, insta DNA goo. so the black goo creating snakes, squids, aliens, etc. was just a genetic mess of stuff that wasnt suppose to be. simple DNA chemical accident. DNA goo bio spill causes havoc with the clean up crew(s) (good guys), so they land, call for backup and sleep off a few thousand years. space DNA janitor wakes up to *gasp* earth aliens and says oh crap! infection has spread!! defeats viral earth aliens, jams a cleanup canister (good seed, not goo) into the seed blaster and tries to get one off. bummer, he misses :) end of movie, the virus (humans, squids, xenos) is spreading... towards the Creators home planets... ironically, the DNA blaster is my idea!! :) ive always felt that the most likely way we will spread to the stars is by sending robot ships with DNA, or maybe just a jar full of seed..... makes much more sense than astronauts us traveling light years and building space huts on what would be unfriendly planets to us.
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As much as I like reading the theories of others, it seems most of them start off well then career off into some randomly made up theory, usually trying to link their theory into another, more outlandish theory based upon no/little evidence. I'm all for creative thoughts and using imagination, but reign back on some of your ideas people. Post your theories here by all means (makes more sense than starting a thread) but at the same time remember the OP of this thread is trying to explain the actual true nature of what these two liquids are responsible for and the ramifications of these two liquids.

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@ slinky - please read the OP carefully, I never said the Xeno's genetic material was contained within the vials. Let me explain... I'll put it simply... We have the urn, inside the urn is a black liquid (Xenomorphs genetic material), inside the black liquid are the vials, inside the vials is the "Seed".

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@ Snorkel Ok so essentially we agree then after all that lol. Thanks for clearing that up I can see your theory totally and we both agree that the urns that were oozing were activiated weapons. So now I am in full agreement. Thanks for expanding on your too many theory comments as well. The way I look at this thread is that it is designed to give others a better understanding of what these substance(s) are and how they work. I don't think this is the forum to discuss potential Engineer motives unless it is a theory that may pertain to the actual need for or action of substance(s). In the end none of us know why the Engineers were doing this, and I think there are other threads where the discussion of their motives would be more appropriate. I think basically this is more of a how thread than a why thread.
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@ snorkel I did read it carefully but what I don't understand about the way you lay it out is a couple things. If Hollway was only exposed to what was in the vial (and by your theory seed and seed only), then why did Shaw give birth to the first genetic step in creating a Xeno (afterall if there was no Xeno DNA present then this couldn't have occured)? If the black liquid is the Xeno genetic material, then how could it make the worms evolve at an accelerated rate if the seed remained in the vials? This is why I believe all the material is in the vials, the Xeno and the seed. Because Shaw experiences both reanimation and a precursor to the Xeno. And I believe when the urns are oozing they have been activated with both materials. I hope you weren't referring to my theories as being outlandish, I am not trying to lead it into another theory I just want to understand the weapon material as much as I can. Also my evidence for believe there is Engineer DNA involved is mainly because the Xeno that is "synthensized" is clearly genetically different from the Xenos we have been exposed to in the past.
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Got my mind thinking about the black goo, could the Engineers have planted a slab of solidified black goo millions of years ago on Earth in the form of a black obelisk as seen in 2001 a Space Odyssey?
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@slinky... When David extracted the vials from the urns he did not wash his hands before breaking upon the vial, hence Holloway was infected with both, but mostly the substance inside the vials - the Seed. The worms evolved at an accelerated rate because they were exposed to both the both the Seed and the genetic material - when the team opened the door the urns reacted, they were triggered causing the content of the vials (Seed) to mix with the black liquid (Xenomorph genetic material). And I was speaking generally in terms of theories - often people are subjective and hold firm beliefs, and whenever new information is revealed they steer that info towards their beliefs. In other words they try to use their observations to support their theories, rather than using the observations to form their theories. I two believe Engineer DNA is involved, they probably designed the Xenomorph using their own genetic material as the starting point.

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Their motives behind the use of these substances comes hand in hand with the substances themselves - by understanding the contents of the urns and the vials, their purpose and their effects we can hypothesize the motives behind the creation and use of these substances. They are two sides of the same coin, so to speak.

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Am I the only one thinking that the joke is on humanity itself in that humanity is the Engineers weapon of mass destruction and that they had an oops moment, and true to type here we are thinking far too logically " it couldnt possibly be us!" could it? hope I,m wrong. P.s where is your evidence to support your arguments? In a science fictional universe any well put "fact" can become reality with enough support.
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did the awaken Engineer dude load the *urn* into the gun thingy? pointed at far away planets? if so the *urns* are effectively space motors, and in that case it makes little sense to have them mix (activate) when the door to the storage room opens? you could never use the device. the ooze happened when the urns became unstable, due to the humans entering the ship. when they first walked in to the storage room the urns were not oozing. whatever problem the Engineers had re-started once the atmosphere kicked in. just like nitro-glycerin, it became unstable. except instead of an explosion, all the well crafted DNA mixed together causing a destructive primordial ooze. Xenomorphs were not crafted or designed, they are the result of a space age industrial accident involving DNA and highly evolved heat activated nano-particles that can invade and replicate cells. shown in the beginning cut scene. everything the corrupted DNA touches kills and than replicates into something different, something bad, causing more chaos in the DNA and cells of other living things. its well known here on earth the virii are at the top of the food chain the Engineers know this accident created a new virii, one that can eventually destroy every living thing. its now moving towards their home.
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We can only infer what is in the film - two Archaeologists find multiple references to a star system and the Weyland Corporation spend 3 trillion dollars to send them to LV-223 to find the answers of the pictograms they found. I doubt the company would spend so much money and send their dying founder and CEO to the wrong location.

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The Xenomorphs are a biological weapon. They were designed specifically for a purpose,and have just what they need to complete the objective. Fast reproduction,exoskeleton,acid blood etc. Same way we planned to use them all the Alien movies. Have you all forgotten that the Engineers left us a map to their weapons development facility and not their home. They seed us,comeback to visit and check on us and probably use us for genetic experimentation and such over the years. Then if a race gets advanced enough to follow the map to their base.They figure we are a threat and use the Xenomorphs to cleanse the planet of all life exept for plants. The Xeno's probably have a short life span and with nothing to eat die soon leaving a nice place.
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@ Airacuda The use of a weapon never really made any sense, and still doesn't... For Instance... - Why would the Engineers create life, wait millions/billions of years, invite it to a weapons base only to wipe them out. serves no purpose whatsoever. Also it is never explicitly stated in any of the Alien films that W-Y wanted the Xenomorph to be used as a weapon.

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@Snorkelbottom - I like your distinction between the Seed and the Black Goo. But your theory about the Dark Truth & the Xenomorphs is too convoluted for my taste (but may be that's how Lindenhof thinks from what I've read - I haven't seen Lost). I personally think the two Engineer faction theory makes more sense. My version of that theory is as follows. A faction of the Engineers (I'll call them the scientists) goes to different planets and seeds them with their DNA to ensure intelligent life like them develops on other planets. To do this, they have developed the seed (as you define it). However, the seed is a closely guarded secret because of its power, and is not shared with non-scientists. Another faction of the Engineers (I'll call them the politicians) wants the seed to develop bio-weapons. Eventually they succeed in obtaining the seed from the scientists (may be there was a war) and create a bio-weapon (which is what is stored in those ampules). The politicians also want to destroy the life that the scientists created, and Earth was the next planet on their list before something went terribly wrong. LV-232 used to be a "monastery" or a "temple" for the scientists, but after the politicians took over the moon, they turned it into a military installation.
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@spektacooler... The dark truth element of what I wrote is simple... The Engineers created us to be clones of themselves, why? this is answered via the Xenomorph, which while also being a highly effective eradicator is also a harvester of genetic material from its hosts. Combining these two known facts we can deduce that the Engineers bred us for genetic material, probably to add to their own to further their evolution artficially. And the means of which to harvest and gather said material is the Xenomorph - thus all we are to them is a means to continue as a species, nothing more. Although you theory is common, it is hindered by two elements... - there is no evidence of a conflict between two Engineer factions. - Why did your good Engineers point to LV-223 after the bad Engineers had taken it over.

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@Snorkel - why didn't the engineers simply gather the genetic material - e.g., in a test tube? using a xenomorph seems to be the most risky way of gathering new genetic material. my responses to your questions about the 2 faction theory. - there is no evidence of a conflict between two Engineer factions. this will be revealed in sequels. - Why did your good Engineers point to LV-223 after the bad Engineers had taken it over. they didn't. when they were pointing to LV-223, it was a monastery. i think the latest cave painting was much older than 0 AD. in the intervening time, the politician faction of the engineers converted the monastery into a military base.
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The use of the Xenomorph allows vast amounts of genetic material to be harvested. Once deployed, and once all hosts have been exhausted the Xenomorphs would die out, making the material easier to gather. They need mass amounts of genetic material, from billions of specimens. This shown by the intent of using the Xenomorph to wipe out something that was created. My response to your responses are... A sequel, should it happen, would venture into the Engineers home world/system and lead to the answers of why they created us and why the intended to wipe us out. Two answers, as you suggest would confuse the audience and convolute the story too much, whereas one asnwer that ties the two questions together opens up the possibility for further expansion and exemplifies the relationship between us and the Engineers, as well as the relationship between the Engineers and the Xenomorph (the mural suggests it to be important). The good Engineers you hypothesized pointed us to LV-223 throughout our ancient history, including a visitation circa 600 ad in Hawaii. Yet the bad Engineers you suggest intended to wipe us out, from LV-223 2000 years ago. They pointed to your bad engineers weapons base.

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@Snorkel - including a visitation circa 600 ad in Hawaii. well, that pretty much refutes my theory that the good engineers were pointing to the "monastery". except... why is everyone assuming that the star map points to lv-223? it points to a system. lv-223 is a moon on that system. yes, it is the only moon that has earth like qualities, but may be the star map was not intended to be interpreted that way. may be the star map was actually pointing to another planet/moon in the same system that is not earth-like. if it is true that the star map doesn't necessarily point to lv-223, then the good/bad engineer theory might still have some life.
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snorkel said "I doubt the company would spend so much money and send their dying founder and CEO to the wrong location." i may be wrong, but not because of that doubt. the whole project was based on a hunch (the best reason the archeologists could come up with was "because i choose to believe"). even weyland's daughter (and arguably the corporate board) did not think the project was a good idea. weyland was dying. that's the key. weyland was desperate. this was not a corporate decision. this was not a rational decision. this was a decision that was made by one desperate, dying person. when you see it in that context, making a 3 trillion dollar mistake is entirely believable.
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btw, how do you explain the 600 ad visitation according to your theory? the engineers wanted to come to earth around 0 ad to wipe us out. however, something horrible happened in lv-223 and the engineers presumably died soon thereafter. this raises two questions. (1) how did they manage to make it to hawaii in 600 ad? and (2) if the managed to make it to hawaii, why did they just do a show & tell and not infect us with the black goo?

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