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ehonglin
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 10:49 AM1. How can Shaw impregnate a Squid Alien ? Make no F*cking sense at all.
2. Black goo changes DNA, OK Fine. What is the small worms in Chalie's eyes?
3. The full grown cone-headed alien burst out of engineer's chest, Right? No chest burster ?
It is totally different from all aliens we known. (Even Alien4 is not the same.)
PS. Though, Shaw 's squid baby and full grown alien have the same cone head as well as the sculpture on chamber room's wall.
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ehonglin
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 10:53 AMAnd that means .......... Shaw gave birth to a new type of Facehugger (Squid face hugger?) .

galacticnorth
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:01 AM1) shaw didnt impregnate a squid alien. If she had done then that would indeed make no sense at all.
2) Several theories fit. It might be a slow version of the kind of degeneration or rapid change (galloping DNA as Scott calls it) that Fifield and the chamberworms are victims to. Like the worms and fifield it seems Holloway also gets enhanced aggression judging from his behavior against a couple of ppl trying to help them (showing them violently and very forcefully away).
3) It's not totally different It looks like a xenomorph basically. As for differences in xenomorphs the xenos do get visual traits that depend on their host. The xeno in Alien 3 is for example quite different from the ones in Aliens or Alien.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:03 AM[b]Posted Jun-08-2012 10:49 AM[/b]
[quote]1. How can Shaw impregnate a Squid Alien ? Make no F*cking sense at all.
2. Black goo changes DNA, OK Fine. What is the small worms in Chalie's eyes?
3. The full grown cone-headed alien burst out of engineer's chest, Right?
It is totally different from all aliens we known. (Even Alien4 is not the same.)
PS. Though, Shaw 's squid baby and full grown alien have the same cone head as well as the sculpture on chamber room's wall.[/quote]
#1-Shaw did not impregnate a squid Alien, but rather Holloway Impregnated her with it after it entered his body through his eye!
#2-a sample from the Vial David8 Stole and then stuck his finger in thus extrapolating a drop of the goo.
#3-Yes. Except for one thing, it now has a strand of HUMAN DNA in it !

T-Minus-Five
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:07 AM1 and 2: what the previous answers are.
3: The cone-head alien is a chest-burster. It's just from a very large being (Space Jockey) so it's starting out very large and better developed. It will get bigger!!!

Member
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:11 AM*MAJOR SPOILERS*
1. Because Charlie was infected from David giving him the goo [explained in #2], then they had sex so it passed from Charlie to Shaw?
2. David The Android takes one of the jars (that they found in the "shrine" place where they found the engineer's helmet in) back to the lab and opens it to find these glass(?) vial things with black blobs of goo in. He then puts it in the cup he gives to Charlie to drink which infects him with a cobralien like the "cute" one Fairfield and the other guy first saw in the "shrine" place.
3. Yeah at the end, that's how Ridley Scott tried to link it the the context of it being a prequel to the Alien movies. And it's different because look at every time an alien hatches it's different: from the cobralien in the cave shrine, to the tiny one in Holloway's eye, to the squid-like one which was cut out from Shaw, to it growing massively and killing the engineer in Vickers' quarters, to the one in the next Alien movies.. they change all the time.
I don't know why it says at the top it only came out today because i saw it at my cinema 2 days ago??

Sundar
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:13 AM" As for differences in xenomorhs the xenos do get visual traits that depend on their host ''... I agree which implies the new ''big chap'' should look like Frank Zane taking a bleach bath with squidlike agility.

star_beast
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:14 AMSpartacus you just explained the three unexplainable questions! I love it. Seriously ehonglin, no offense but the plot was not that hard to follow. Have you ever seen Donnie Darkco? Just curious.

ehonglin
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:16 AMNot that easy, guys
1. The squid baby is in "her womb". You saw the cord. The movie clearly says she got it after having sex with Holloway. How can it went to her bodies except sexual intercourse.
2. OK, perhaps, it's a bogy degeneration. But I believe I saw "worms" in his eyes. maybe, I am wrong.
3. You saw the scuplture in the chamber's floor, Right? the same alien. That means "a strand of HUMAN DNA" has nothing to do with it.

Slipp_Digby
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:17 AMLets put the answers next to the questions:-
1. How can Shaw impregnate a Squid Alien ? Make no F*cking sense at all.
#1-Shaw did not impregnate a squid Alien, but rather Holloway Impregnated her with it after it entered his body through his eye!
Doesn't holloway just drink the black goo David puts in the drink. There is not reason for something to happen to his eye.
Q. 2. Black goo changes DNA, OK Fine. What is the small worms in Chalie's eyes?
A. #2-a sample from the Vial David8 Stole and then stuck his finger in thus extrapolating a drop of the goo
Erm, what?! How does that explain the worms?
The question is why does ingesting the goo via the drink david spiked make a worm like creature grow in his eye. It doesn't do that to anyone else.
Q. 3. The full grown cone-headed alien burst out of engineer's chest, Right?
It is totally different from all aliens we known. (Even Alien4 is not the same.)
A. #3-Yes. Except for one thing, it now has a strand of HUMAN DNA in it !
I dont think this is a problem that needs answering. The alien resurrection is human:xeno cross. This thing is engineer:new creature offspring so it can look different. isnt it meant to be a xeno pre-cursor?!

Slipp_Digby
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:18 AM"Spartacus you just explained the three unexplainable questions! I love it. Seriously ehonglin, no offense but the plot was not that hard to follow. Have you ever seen Donnie Darkco? Just curious"
Odd that, because he got most of it wrong!
0% plot holes!

ehonglin
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 11:24 AMActually, My question for the first question is ....... it is impossible for a human to impregnate other species baby.
It's doesn't make any sense if you know basic biology. If only that squid baby has half of human DNA.
Anyway, it is a fiction. I am fine if there is no explanation.

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 12:26 PMSorry to rain on your parade, Spartacus, but
[i]#1-Shaw did not impregnate a squid Alien, but rather Holloway Impregnated her with it after it entered his body through his eye!
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That didn't ENTER his body through the eye. We saw it poke out from his eye and go back it. All that black goo crap entered his body when he drank the wine that David contaminated with black goo.
Perhaps that bit of black goo had little microbes on it, or perhaps it's a mutation of some harmless little microbe that lots of people have in their eyes.

dannyblaqvideos
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 1:59 PMIt seems like a lot of people I'm finding making negative comments about the Prometheus either: didn't see Prometheus, were not paying attention during Prometheus, guessing only from the trailers, missed something in Prometheus, or didn't see/remember what took place in the previous 4 Alien films.
The 1st two minutes of Prometheus got jacked up in the projector at our IMAX 3D thater last night, so I didn't get to see what happened before the Engineer being drank the cup that contained what killed him in the opening. But it seems to me they [u]created[/u] or [u]stumbled upon[/u] a virus/organism, and decided to try to reproduce it and stockpile it; much like our military or the CDC here in the US. Remember, Shaw's dad died from Ebola virus.
@ehonglin
1. I feel since Holloway kissed Shaw, it could have been passed to her orally, just as it was passed to him orally. Since it ended up in her womb, intercourse is more logical. All I know is when I saw him kiss her I felt it she was about to get something worse than a herpes sore. LOL It's obvious at some point the Engineers find or create a Queen Xeno that can lay eggs ibstead of the black goo.
2. I think the black goo contains a worm virus or multiple worm organisms that change DNA. Since Holloway is burned before he fully transforms we're not sure what he was going to morph into or see what would jump out of him in comparison to what came out of Shaw. Maybe a side affect of having the worm in you is violence and becoming psychotic.
3. The Engineer is a much bigger type of being, so the chest buster would be bigger I think. Now the Prometheus Alien at the end has Engineer, Squid, + Male & Female Earthing DNA in it. The 1979 "Alien" xeno came out of wittle John Hurt. LOL
Just my 2 cents. I can't weait for more Prometheus films.

StarkInd27
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 3:09 PMHere's another thing to look at which may answer a question or two with plot holes as well. This comes from Thus Spoke Zathustra which is featured on the whatis101112 website that they are putting out now:
The symbol of the Übermensch also alludes to Nietzsche's notions of "self-mastery", "self-cultivation", "self-direction", and "self-overcoming". Expounding these concepts, Zarathustra declares:
"I teach you the overman. Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him?
"All beings so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the ebb of this great flood and even go back to the beasts rather than overcome man? What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And man shall be just that for the overman: a laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. You have made your way from worm to man, and much in you is still worm. Once you were apes, and even now, too, man is more ape than any ape.
"Whoever is the wisest among you is also a mere conflict and cross between plant and ghost. But do I bid you become ghosts or plants?
"Behold, I teach you the overman! The overman is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: the overman shall be the meaning of the earth! I beseech you, my brothers, remain faithful to the earth, and do not believe those who speak to you of otherworldly hopes! Poison-mixers are they, whether they know it or not. Despisers of life are they, decaying and poisoned themselves, of whom the earth is weary: so let them go!"
— Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Prologue, §3, trans. Walter Kaufmann

StarkInd27
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2012 3:22 PMAnd here is the explanation of the passage:
Nietzsche injects myriad ideas into the book, but there are a few recurring themes. The overman (Übermensch), a self-mastered individual who has achieved his full power, is an almost omnipresent idea in Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Man as a race is merely a bridge between animals and the overman. Nietzsche also makes a point that the overman is not an end result for a person, but more the journey toward self-mastery.
The eternal recurrence, found elsewhere in Nietzsche's writing, is also mentioned. The eternal recurrence is the idea that all events that have happened will happen again, infinitely many times. Such a reality can serve as the litmus test for an overman. Faced with the knowledge that he would repeat every action that he has taken, an overman would be elated as he has no regrets and loves life.
The will to power is the fundamental component of human nature. Everything we do is an expression of the will to power. The will to power is a psychological analysis of all human action and is accentuated by self-overcoming and self-enhancement. Contrasted with living for procreation, pleasure, or happiness, the will to power is the summary of all man's struggle against his surrounding environment as well as his reason for living in it.
The book in several passages expresses loathing for sentiments of human pity, compassion, indulgence and mercy towards a victim, which are regarded as the greatest sin and most insidious danger.[6][7] Part of Nietzsche's reactionary thought is also that the creature he most sincerely loathes is the spirit of revolution, and its hatred for the anarchist and rebel.[8]
Many criticisms of Christianity can be found in Thus Spoke Zarathustra, in particular Christian values of good and evil and its belief in an afterlife. Nietzsche sees the complacency of Christian values as fetters to the achievement of overman as well as on the human spirit.

TheBritishOne
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 10:17 AMAnswer 1. Wait what? When did shaw impregnate a alien? She was pregnant with an alien thingy.
Answer 2. To quote Brick 'I dont know.' but I assume the metal like silvery black goo at the start and the goo in the glass vials are different types of goo
Answer 3. The alien might be different from the latter ones because it is less evolved or its different due to the different way it was made, but i dont really have much to add to the giant alien arena.
I was also at a IMAX last night and that ones 3D was screwed up so the movie showing was called off, tickets to any movie whenever and refunds all around!

Slipp_Digby
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 2:43 AMSeems to me a lot of people who love Prometheus also failed to pay attention, or may have not seen this film.
This thread being a good example.
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