Very Interesting scene everyone has forgot??

axl rose
MemberOvomorphJune 08, 20121431 Views21 Repliesthe drawings from all the civilisations with the star maps,holloway clearly says all the drawings are of men worshipping giant beings who are pointing to the stars.........
now this proves the engineers came back to earth on numerous occasions as the drawings found were from different civilisations......now im not great with timing so perhaps someone could calculate when these civilisations existed and see if the engineers had visited us before or after there accident on lv-233???
June 08, 2012
Taking what you've just stated into account, it almost makes more sense that the engineers themselves made those drawings. The consistency of the images over that many years/miles suggests it.
June 08, 2012
There are depictions dated both before and after the accident.
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June 08, 2012
@axl rose;
[i] ....see if the engineers had visited us before or after there accident on lv-233???[/i]
At first, by accident, I assumed you were referring to the juggernaut that force-landed on LV-426 over 1 miliion years ago. But now I see that you are referring to the accident at their military outpost 2,000 (+ or -_ years ago.
To answer your question, the engineers visited us as early as 1.2 Billion years ago as evidenced in the opening sequence (single-cellular life obtaining the RNA enzyme to become multi-cellular life) -AND- they visited us way before the oldest drawing dated at 35,000 years old. The plaques, tablets and cave paintings were drawn/created by man. And it appear that they last visited us @ 2500 years ago, but there have been no visits for around 2,000 years due to their accident. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we should be seeing no artifacts dated within the last 2,000 years.
The interesting thing is: such drawings DO exist. Not those fictional ones, but ones that are similar.
I also have a theory as to "WHY" they wanted to destroy us. Let's look at the Earth around 50-150 AD. Not a nice place and with the destruction of all of the knowledge in the Library of Alexandria....thwarting humankind into the dark ages....I would have voted for a "reset" as well. Couldn't imagine being those generations that were sewn into their underwear for 1,300+ years.
June 08, 2012
i doubt the engineers wud have made them surely they would leave holograms etc not caveman drawings.if proxy is right its very confusing then isnt it .that would mean they visited us after there accident on lv 233 i thought they wanted to destroy us why didnt they then if they visited us...also if they gave the civilisations star maps after the accident why did they send us there???
im very perplexed now!
June 08, 2012
@abordoli yes but what was the latest civilisation to do the drawings because they were obviously visited to,if that civilisation was less than 2000 years then it meant they came after the accident.....
yes iv seen some of the shows,if you were to go by all the old drawings,scripture etc you would not no what to believe i guess it comes down to what do you choose to believe....see what i did there??
June 08, 2012
@Axlrose...oh how i wish you where theeee axl rose....but its not hard to find answers to your questions....the premise of Prometheus is set in acknowledgement of the Ancient Alien theory.(wether you believe in it or not...its a good subject matter)...but for the purposes and creative license of the film they've changed and embellished on it a little....of course the cave paintings and start system in the film are not real....but are based on similar styled and interesting paintings carvings designs, emblems etc of historical significance found in ancient cultures like the mayan....hopi (Spelling) indian...Aztecs...and many others all around the world separated by thousands of miles....and indeed hundreds/ thousands of years...dating back through from present day like crop circles (as in multicultural shared phenomenon) back through a few thousand years all the way back to the times of Antiquity in our real ancient past...so really anywhere from now back to tens of thousands of years ago....so applying this to the movie.....it fits perfectly with the explanations given as the cave carving thats found in the beginning of the movie is said to be by SHAW after carbon dating to be 35,000 years old and the oldest one found....while carbon dating on the decapitated engineer is given again by SHAW in the film...as 2000 years...hope that helped :)
June 08, 2012
it helped a lot but i was wondering if the oldest was 35,000 years old when was the newest or latest ie was there a civilisation that was 2000 years old or less that had these drawings as that would insinuate the enginners visited us after the accident on lv-233 which wouldnt make sense as the movie makes it seem they wanted to destroy us 2000 years ago right before the accident.
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June 08, 2012
I haven't seen any indication of dates for star maps which are later than 2000 years ago........but I do like the implicit idea of cultural mimicry by humans aping, or simply being inspired by the Engineers. Many of the Mesoamerican cultures practiced ritual sacrifice......and physically, the Engineers look like living, breathing, buffed-up Greek sculptures.
June 08, 2012
@axlrose....in terms of the movie the cave painting is said to be the oldest ever found...they don't say who or what type of culture these people where in terms of real life...but in real life the oldest relics where found between 2008 and 2010 in africa, turkey, and south america....where they are said to be about 10 to 12,000 years old and maybe even more where previously the oldest discoveries in terms of these type of cave paintings and findings where believed to be dated back to half that time.... and actually something else to think about thats populating this site....its the dead body that 2000 years old.... we don't actually know for sure if they where coming to destroy earth...it's david that says they are...and we've only got his word for it....the word that turned the engineer into a killing thug....its seems a popular theory on this site that david developed his own agenda....by what he said and did throughout the film....they could have been just returning to visit as they did in the past which would line up with this years (funny that) mayan calendar.......watch the film again at some point... theres nothing to suggest their going to kill us other than what david says out loud as maybe part of a manipulation...
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June 08, 2012
Abordoli why do you say : " And it appear that they last visited us @ 2500 years ago, "
What did I miss in the film that says that? I remember in the second scene, when they are discussing the date of the drawing on the Isle of Skye, Shaw says it's 35,000 years old and Holloway says, "older than the others by millenia". that doesn't mean 33,000 years though... he didn't say tens of millenia...
Where do you get 2500 years from?
June 08, 2012
Out of curiosity... How does she know that her carbon dater is accurately calibrated to date an alien head?
June 08, 2012
yes perhaps ur right maybe they wernt out to destroy us
iv seen it twice and im pretty sure holloway does give the civiliisations which the carvings were founds although i cant remmemer which ones they were,if someone could remmeber the civilisations he names then we could see if indeed the enginners had visited after the accident,
June 08, 2012
Out of curiosity... How does she know that her carbon dater is accurately calibrated to date an alien head?
And some people on the threads take it SO literally when she says "2000 years" they're saying''' what was happening on Earth in 93AD .... like it was EXACTLY 2000 years (and assuming even then that it takes less than a year for the Space Jockeys to travel the 34.5 light years to Earth).
June 08, 2012
so lets say it was 2000 years as they say,ur sayin people have worked out that was 93 AD okay so what civilisations came after that were they one of the 7 that were in the movie,if so they came after the accident and left use a map to go to that terrible planet.....pricks!
June 08, 2012
@hadleyshope...yeah id thought of that too man...about the calibration...of the instrument....i gave it the benefit of the doubt....as we where told in the movie that the dna was shared between us and the engineers so i just put it down to common genetic makeup....and therefore accurate....but really thats only me being kind.....and wasn't a major issue for me because it wasn't given as one...and yeah i hear you about the 2000 years etc....i don't personally take it that way...as like i said...it was in reference to the body they gave the 2000 year date...not in reference to a mission....or a date back on earth time.....but really i was just answering to a good post on a singular point....
@axlrose... id be pretty confident to say that holloway mentions all the usual suspects in terms of culture...the mayans etc.....but i do remember saying to myself....on both occasions ....what was that one again....as there was definitely a culture mentioned that i'd never heard of....but presumed (as again they don't bother to explain) that this was the culture responsible for the 35,000 year old one they found....again personally a minor issue for me...but don't think theres anything mentioned about something WITHIN the last 2000 years....so you could defo be onto something :)
June 08, 2012
Another thing with the film....the planet that they were directed to was a military site. Not the actual planet, so i wonder if they ever planned on having humans come to the planet.
June 08, 2012
Um... the carbon dater would work because carbon has a precise radioactive decay rate. So any life-form that has any carbon in it at all would be able to be dated by her tool; and we know for sure that the Engineers have carbon in them, because they have the same DNA as us, and we are carbon-based lifeforms.
June 09, 2012
@swordsmanj thanks for giving clear notion of the carbon dating...it's not something i know anything really about....but am glad that the idea i accepted was because it was the common genetic makeup....yeah didn't really think that was a major thing or required much thought or question.
June 10, 2012
[i]Where do you get 2500 years from?[/i]
I have not studied all the dates on all the tablets/artifacts (I think they had 7)...and didn't feel like looking it up, so I threw out a date. A more accurate one would have been 4500 years ago (2500 years before the accident on LV-223) because one of the tablets was Egyptian and it's height was around 2500 years BC. One reason I threw out 2500 years is quite possibly they came and saw what was happening in Rome @ 500 BC. That sure would have pissed me off. Hopefully the Art of Prometheus book will give me some accurate dates at my fingertips so as to better flesh out some of my, admittedly, wild speculation....here an now at the start of probably a period of 2 years of speculation before Prometheus 2.