Alien Life cycle and Original Facehugger on Mural

wow, I actually see what you are saying. thats a cool find

Thank God, finally a thread that is refreshing, beautiful and insightful. Just like the good old days here on the forum! Yes I see it! Very well done! (LOLOL at Giger's chickenburster, love that thing.) Not trying to steal your thunder or anything, but I circled the facehugger to make it even easier for people to see. :) [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/15duu5i.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/315zuyw.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks man..yeah, I forgot to highlight it..a bit tired...lol

Yup... I see it. This was the first design by Giger...

[img]http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/20297.jpg[/img]

@Mr.J; I will happily delete my alterations when you decide you would like to circle or highlight your original post (Mail me when you do). Now, I must link the heck out of this to everyone, because it's awesome!!!

@Mr.J, interesting finding...Giger's original cycle, thanks for posting it (:

Thanks man, I sure will. So, this mural goes to prove, they have already made these "weapons" and they have been around for quite a long time....they pre-date the Prometeheus Mission and of course the Nostromo...

Yes this whole thing is about weapons that cleanse and environment before seeding life... Like Tilling the soil and pulling the weeds (humanity might have become a weed...)

Edit. (I failed to start at the top!) [s]I thought everyone was already VERY well aware of this.[/s] [s]Giger's original design was a "Jack in the box", but he misinterpreted the size that the creature should be and made it too large. That's why it was redesigned by another. His "turkey burster" also was abandoned for the design of another guy on the project. I'll have to haul out my documentary to find the guy's name...[/s] Very impressive find! I hope there is a high res of this in the book. Can't wait until next week! Didn't Giger do this for Prometheus? Wasn't he commissioned?

I see this mural as the concrete "Alien DNA", as well as other small hints but. I heard Giger had his deigns in this film but set work was done by another artist as you stated "Mr. Sukkal".

I believe he was and this was really the only thing that had his hand print on it, sadly but the concept book should have a much better photo, I have to wait till the 12th when it comes out state side, sucks...

GREAT find!

this is awesome... also, now that we can see the mural better it also looks like the xeno could be representing the idea of the world tree or the tree of life found in many religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life in christianity the tree is represented by the cross and the xeno appears to form a cross and everything above it gives the sense of a tree. According to wikipedia... A tree of life is variously a motif in various world theologies, mythologies, and philosophies; a mystical concept alluding to the interconnectedness of all life on our planet; and a metaphor for common descent in the evolutionary sense. Based on this... maybe the mural implies that we are actually all descended from the xeno and the engineers got in trouble when the attempted to steal the secrets of life from the xenos?

@theheist Cool makes me think of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanged_Man_(tarot_card)[img]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RWS_Tarot_12_Hanged_Man.jpg[/img]

ha, totally didn't notice the human face it all is part of in theaters. can't wait to see this movie again and again.

nice find! really like this thread!

one of my friends works on film sets.. he just posted this pic.. [img]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2910/georgeft.jpg[/img] probably the clearest pic you will see...

Awesome thread!!!! (sbordoli thinks the mural is beautiful) How about a discussion of what was sitting on the altar? It's not shown in the above production photo, but in the film we see a green gem/stone/rock. It is like amber, but green. I theorize that the 1 million year old plus original xeno dna, the "source", is trapped inside that gem/stone/rock and idolized (thus the alter) as the original progenitor back when ampule cargo used to be egg cargo. I really love how Prometheus comes before Alien, but the urn/body-hugger/super-xeno is the evolved version of the ancient egg/face-hugger/xeno. And 33 years after Prometheus, the Nostrom happens upon an ancient Juggernaut with a dead ancient engineer turned to dust laying in the boots of his "holy suit" with a cargo-hold for of ancient bio-weapons. I love it!!!!

Mr j how good is your eyesight absolutely cracking find and a great thread Is the picture taken for the Prometheus artwork book? When you look at the mural from this angle it does look to me as if it's a door? One thing I'm sure of though is we haven't seen the last of this mural