Plot Holes???

Twofishes
MemberOvomorphJune 09, 20121058 Views12 RepliesSo I saw the movie this afternoon and generally and genuinely enjoyed it. But in the car ride home and for the past few hours I have been wondering about somethings. Maybe I missed something or maybe this movie has some glaring plot holes. Sorry in advance if this has all already been gone over, I just really don't feel like searching when I can just ask. thanks in advance.
First and most glaring, the movie suggest that sporadically throughout our past, over the course of thousands of years and all across earth, an alien species(the engineers, who, it is also suggested, are our creators) visited ancient humans and consistently showed then a constellation that it turns out is the home to a planet, were these aliens were at that time(or eventually) plotting our demise. Why?
Secondly and less glaring, why exactly did David poison(maybe infect is a better word here) Halloway?
June 09, 2012
There are a lot of threads in this forum that gives some really great theories to these questions.
I'll save the first question for another user to summarize.
The second one was given to you in the movie. Weyland told David to 'try harder' in finding him a cure. They hadn't found the Space Jockey in stasis yet so he needed to try an experiment. Holloway was his experiment.
June 09, 2012
oh....thanx xenoguard....i never quite got that bit either...so David basically used holloway as a genui pig?....never thought of it like that....i did not understand his motives clearly....but what you saying is making sense....
June 09, 2012
Does that seem right to you. David always seems one step ahead. Experimenting seems outside his natural range.
It seems like a leap to me. Maybe not a leap, more like a device. That whole plot line seems off. Almost to the point where Halloway isn't even needed at all. Like Halloway is there to be infected- so he can impregnate Shaw- so she can have a set piece abortion- so the engineer can be killed by his own biological weapon(irony )- so there can be a bit of fan service before the credits set in .
June 09, 2012
.....@ twofishes.....well yeah....nothing wrong with that!....and holloway is needed...for all the reasons you mentioned....so?
June 09, 2012
Sure, no problem Juxtapose!
Really, even in interviews Lindelof and Ridley didn't seem like they had a huge handle on the story lol. At first, all the missing pieces bugged me. Now, I can't stop putting my own pieces in to see if they fit!
It's like Prometheus itself is black goo... and I'm totally infected!
June 09, 2012
Oh, oh wait - but, you see, it wasn't even an invitation to their [i]home?[/i]
It was an invitation to their [i]goo-weaponry, "installation".[/i]
Yes. It was an invitation to their [i]goo-weaponry, "installation". [/i]
Why would aliens leave invites to their goo-weaponry, "installation"?
Uhmm..................
Anyhow: now, see, it's only [i]after[/i] we go there - to the goo-weaponry "installation" - and get quite severely and stupidly destroyed by all their weapons of goo - and also murderously and aggressively attacked, literally on sight, by their single living alien Representative, [ I guess effectively the Janitor of the place], that it's decided that we, [or I should say, the last surviving human and her big bag of android parts], need to, [i]immediately[/i] go to the actual alien home - in order to ask them why they don't like us, anymore and how come they are so angry...
You saw it this afternoon, you say?
Well, why not sleep on it? By tomorrow morning maybe you'll be amending your post for about another 40 examples, minimum, of, "Mommy...what the Hell did I really just watch?"
June 09, 2012
If and wehn the humans showed, perhaps that is the time to erdicate them. Prior to that, if they dont have space travel, then perhaps they are watching us like you would fish in a bowl just waiting to see what we do...As to David infecting that guy, David ffigures out that the goo is what this is all about and what it does and why. He just jumped in and of course wants to find data that helps his programmer live longer too
June 09, 2012
@ juxtapose
It's about 40 minutes of a 124 minute movie for 15 seconds of fan service.
@allinamberclad
What is she even going to eat on that space ship? And also it's a pretty serious existential threat. I mean it seems like all that has to happen is the engineers finding out that by some glitch we weren't exterminated and then they send another ship (which we know they have) to exterminate us. Yet we know this doesn't happen because Alien4 takes place so many years in the future and humanity is not only not exterminated but also fucking around with the exact same shit(irony).
June 09, 2012
allinamber, a little over the top, no? Unless my sarcasm detector is smashed and you owe me some money...
June 09, 2012
@Twofishes
Yes. Well, it seems to me, this is why this particular film had to be so very carefully structured - and why it's a little tragi-comic that it doesn't [i]seem[/i] to have been.
Eat?... Why, she'll probably have to go to sleep.... in the alien hypersleep sarcophagus...
As you point out, she can't now go home and warn Earth of the threat first - which you might think she'd be motivated to do having been so very desperate to have Earth saved earlier in the film - oh no.
She just leaves some old recording in case someone else comes. Let's hope that ugly spikeheaded thing doesn't turn it off. Nice.
Now, she's flying to the murdering and hateful advanced civilisation Engineers homeworld, alone, with a bag of parts and maybe an axe?...
OK....
June 09, 2012
That's wasn't there homeworld they went to. I believe that was a research installation. In the end she talks to David stating if he can find the coordinates to there world and use one of there ships to go there and get the answers they are looking for. Second the ship in the beginning was different shape. It was more oval. One of them uses the same contents that was in the canisters which makes me believe that the world in the beginning is not Earth but A Alien homeworld. One of them sacrifices himself and becomes like Holloway and fifield who were infected by this goo.
As for David, I saw as a boy who was curious. He knew what he was doing. He just wanted to see what happened. He has no soul or conscious. He's a robot. Just like the way Ash in Alien knew that the face hugger implanted something into Kane and Ripley caught him looking at the screen at it. Then shuts it off. But in the end David redeems himself like Bishop. So he was a bit of both androids.