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carabidus
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:45 PMI am terribly vexed that the engineer ship was so easily taken out. How can a ship built by an advanced race have no countermeasures to avoid such a collision? The engineer vessel took no evasive action as the Prometheus revved up to full ramming speed. It was simply a sitting duck.
Unless I'm missing something, this is a [i]very[/i] weak element in the story.
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Richie
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:47 PMIt is probably a exploratory vehicle and not a war ship..more of a space travel vehicle...Plus, I think the engineer piloting it was being programming and making adjustments when boooom. He was not expecting it

Twofishes
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:53 PMYou know what is preposterous? That they showed it in the trailer.

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:53 PMWith people complaining about things like this it's no wonder some hate the film. I'm not saying this is real insignificant. It's more significant than a lot of complaints I've read but I've never seen people pick apart so many ridiculous things in a film. It's a film. Make believe. Now, I know RS is known for realisim but geez people, let yourself go for 2 hours!
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XenoGuard25
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:55 PMI just saw this part as the ultimate arrogance of Space Jockeys. Even when the ship was heading in direct collision I think that Space Jockey didn't see us as a threat. You know, us inferior race to their greatness.
Well, he sure did get a surprise now didn't he? >:)

Richie
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:58 PMI will say this much...The enigneers ship crashed landed and it wasnt too baddly messed. Perhaps they didint hink anything was around that could hurt it?

MostlyHarmless...Mostly
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:01 PMYeah, it kind of reminds me of a low quality cargo ship ramming a higher quality cargo ship.

Richie
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 7:58 PMI will say this much...The enigneers ship crashed landed and it wasnt too baddly messed. Perhaps they didint hink anything was around that could hurt it?

Gahlaktus
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:08 PMEngineering : Thank You! Thank You! -- For your enlightened comment.
I came to this and one other forum because of Prometheus. Never been a member of a forum before, I won't be again. The negative internet opinion riot over Prometheus is just more than my meager sensibilities can stand. The vast majority of these people have no idea what they're talking about, they've just buried the movie beneath a mountain of unenlightened and highly negative trivialities. It says nothing about Prometheus but more about who and what they are not. I feel sorry for Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof : a beautiful masterpiece of a movie has been buried by uninformed misunderstandings. There are no plot holes. There are holes in viewers heads. I've gotten to the point where I don't want to read any more of it. But thank you for your comment.

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:27 PMNo problem, Gahlaktus. There are some of us out here. TBH, I find myself reading the negative stuff for entertainment. A lot of the rants crack me up. Some made me mad at first the I started to see the humor in them. I also enjoy trying to figure out why they feel the way they do. whether it's because they're expectations were too big or they wanted a straight prequel or they don't get it, or they wanted everything answered. Don't get me wrong I know there are some that simply don't like it and have valid reasons and I don't feel that their opinions are worthless because I don't agree with them or anything. It is what it is though.
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Spartan300
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:28 PMI agree and thank you for sharing that Gahlaktus. I absolutely echo your thoughts and feelings about the movie and it's "nitpickers". My favorite is when they don't understand something and say it's a "Plot Hole." No, it's not a plot hole... it's been left that way for you to use your brain and think. To ask others their theories and explore other resources to decode the meaning. People are so lazy and want their meanings and plots spoon-fed to them... like babies.

DoCatsDreamOfChestburstingAliens?
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:33 PMWhile I agree with Spartan300, I still think I would have liked to see more definite answers. After all, this is a prequel, and i feel that we should have been able to draw some definite conclusions rather than completely guessing on large elements of the film. While it was fantastic in every way, I still felt it was a little too vague. Hopefully this will be cleared in the sequel.

xenonative
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:35 PMI enjoyed what Director Ridley Scott has emphasized..."It's a movie, not a science lesson.."
:-)

Spartan300
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:47 PMI understand jonsey and yes, I was hoping for some answers as well. We all know that this is a sort of a prequel, but there is a reason why RS continually said in interviews that Prometheus is not a prequel, although it takes place in the universe of Alien. It is a stand alone movie that probably creates more questions than answers, but from the info I gathered. They omitted certain explanations and/or answers with the sequel in mind. Lets hope it makes a crap load of money. I would love to where Prometheus goes.
One final note: It has been forever since we have had an Epic, Sci-fi, rated - R Franchise.

MostlyHarmless...Mostly
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 9:07 PMI love that quote xenonative, it's like asking Scott and company to be almost as prescient as Bradbury.

carabidus
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 9:18 PMThere seems to be some misunderstanding behind the intent of my original post. I certainly did hate the film. Far from it. My intent was to discuss a glaringly thin plot element. From a plausibility standpoint, the ramming of the infinitely superior engineer ship by the Prometheus left me hollow and disappointed. Nothing more, nothing less.
How many "Prometheus haters" are building [url=http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF08643C912AC6DB6]a scale model diorama inspired by the series[/url]?
Would I see the film again? You bet. I'm already looking forward to the DVD so I can study it. That's right, a real fan (which I am) does not just passively watch these films. I have [i]studied[/i] them as both a lover of cinema and as a model builder.
A real aficionado of the series should be able to discuss and debate without immediately assuming that someone is trying to dismantle everyone's enjoyment of the films.

MostlyHarmless...Mostly
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 9:49 PMYeah, ok, no-one is stepping on any toes from what I can tell, but a large interstellar cargo ship ramming another while being piloted by a single Engineer? Apparently I'm not supposed to love Star Trek either, just sayin', a cargo ship ramming another one? Not a big deal.
Are conscious androids, interstellar travel and kick started genetic origins more fashionable now or is it 'lost' on me?

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 11:26 PMYep, mostly harmless is correct. I wasn't stepping on anyone's toes. I even said your problem with the film does have some significance. I never assumed anything. Never said you hated the film. Never said you weren't an "aficionado of the series." I was simply stating that the discection of this film has grown to "preposterous" proportions.
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DoCatsDreamOfChestburstingAliens?
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 6:13 PM@Spartan Very true! The movie definitely seems to have been made for a sequel (or two), which I hope will answer some of the BIG questions. In the meantime, maybe I'll go see Prometheus again to see if I can't draw my own conclusions (and support the movie at the same time).
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