What came first, the chicken or the egg? (metaphorically)

theRealist

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I'm sure I'm echoing many people in this post and sorry for the length. I've read lots and lots of posts and been racking my brain for the past few days. Here's the basis of my simple theory... In the age old debate of "what came first, the chicken or the egg?" there is no clear answer, right? Well, I think I can apply this same circular logic to Prometheus, albeit hopefully make more sense. Numerous people claim that ALIEN is "million-year-old tech" that supposedly predates the Deacon or "Proto-Xeno." My philosophy is that the true Xenomorphs come from facehuggers which come from eggs which come from a Queen, which comes from a facehugger which also comes from an egg... yada yada yada. This is the same chicken and egg debate... which leads me to believe that the Xenomorphs of ALIEN are created, not a naturally evolving, self-sustaining life cycle of: egg-host-creature. How are they created? The "Black Goo" or primordial soup as some have called it, seems to me the most logical explanation. I originally thought it to be purely mutagenic, until I realized that everything biological it touched caused it to become ALIEN-esque, meaning the same DNA responsible for the creation of the Xenomorphs, is also the basis for creating many other things. The green, Jurassic Park-looking thing in the chamber, could be the source of the DNA.. and the Black Goo is what the Engineers created through experimentation with it. My personal opinion is that the Black Goo does not contain actual DNA, but rather [i]recombinant DNA[/i]. This recombinant DNA can splice into the DNA sequence of any organism, with a plethora of results, which are purely random, unless engineered in a lab under a controlled environment.

MJD
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June 11, 2012

what i heard the chicken came first, they found traces of fecal on the eggshell. hence it has to come out of a chicken first. but i am no biologist. i reckon aswell that the black goo we see evolves over many hosts and different beings into the xeno we know. i mean even just colour wise they fit identically. both black xD but that aside we can see it very clearly in this movie what cycles the black goo needs to become a perfect living being. it takes all traits from humans, engineers to become what it is. of course back then 1979 they didn´t think that far, made an egg that infects a host and then comes out the chestburster, nowadays people are not satisfied with that and want more scientific sides to it. so they start with the dna of the xeno and what comes out at the end we all see xD i thought aswell that the green stone is the source of the goo and that dna is pulled out of it that ends up being the black goo contained in the urns. but towards the alien queen, don´t forget that in the original script of alien 1 directors cut, there are no queens, theres a cut scene showing a human changing into an egg and an other into a host to be chestbursted, it was cameron who put this idea in and i don´t reckon ridley to further touch on it but i reckon he is insulted how it changed the whole idea he had. we finally see a more deeper look with the goo and stone to how we were created, to how engineers and xenos and all other living creatures were created. that it wasn´t god but just science......

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June 11, 2012

I like your logic. One question, what exactly were you talking about when you said "green Jurassic park thing"? I like your idea, and it makes sense. I like how it explains how according to some sources the xenos from the first "ALIEN" existed before 2093.

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June 11, 2012

These forums are saturated with insightful theories and speculation - maybe Ridley should hire the sequel's writers and actors from this websites members. My reflection on the black, biological fluid and the xenomorph lifeforms - is that the fluid is a viral medium that is trans-gender / trans-species but always evolving. Each of the 'Alien' films, and the AVP versions of the Xenomorph differ in detail based on their hosts - but their genetic structure shares similar foundations. My own opinion is that the Xenomorphs began as a virus that mutated and evolved from one lifeform to the next - aquiring and manipulating beneficial traits from the most resiliant hosts. The way that the Xenomorph is portrayed on the wall, above the green crystal - appears to be one of reverence. It could be that the Xenomorph is the 'Engineers' version of our cybernetics aspirations - to create a flawless biological lifeform that can adapt to and survive any environment. God complexes have a tendency of backfiring - look at the actions of David.

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June 11, 2012

Sorry, I mentioned the green crystal in the urn chamber but didn't speculate. My initial impression was that it is a power source - a means of transmitting resonance to maintain atmosphere, or biological stability, or as you suggested - it could be an instrument of DNA storage and manipulation. Hopefully, Ridley will provide some insight into the Xenomorph's origins and the 'Engineers' technology.