why didnt the engineers destroy us during mayan /hawaiin period??

Why would you assume they came then?

I think Prometheus has religious themes all over it and even hinted by Ridley, that date seems ver significant with Jesus christ and he may be an engineer or representing them to sort humanity out, and the killed him so they decided to come over and do it fully themselves as humanity didnt listen. Something went wrong along the way and the plan back fired, breakout of Xenos or what ever had them running some made it some didnt, one of the ones made it and was infected, landed on LV426, set of his warning beacon to others..if you read all the stuff and interviews etc there defo seems to be some kind of theme in the back ground of prometheus and that 2000 year old date is cropping up alot!

hi cant access your links coz im in work but are those 2 other dates the occasions where the "star map" was painted on the walls of those civs?

Prior interviews and articles have surmised that Jesus was either sent by the engineers to bring a message of peace to earth or was otherwise known to the engineers and the crucifixtion or killing of Jesus made the engineers angry enough to give up on the human race.

Why do you assume that they were planning on wiping us out? Think about what you are basing that conclusion on, and then you will see why they did not try to wipe us out in the past nor were they planning to wipe us out in 2093/2094 and by the way, when someone says 'it's 2000 years old' that doesn't mean it is EXACTLY 2000 years old, and you can conclude they died in late December 2093. Also dating using Carbon 14 works well on earth because we have base readings for the amount of C14 that should be present. When dealing with another environment, and creatures who aren't even from that environment. the base level required to calibarate the equipment may be off. That being said, it's hardly the biggest mistake made by a character in this film.

@Hadley's Hope Why do you not think they were trying to wipe us out? I'd like to know your reasoning. I think the idea of Christ as an engineer is more plausible and, if true, quite brilliant.

agreed, and C14 measurements are only a guess anyway. Carbon dating has been known to date a living tortoise as 100,000 years old. And Carbon dating is only good to about 50,000 if you even qualify "good" as reliable. Once more, there were several thousands of people crucified by the Romans, who is to say he meant Christ?

@RickJones Because surely Christ is [b]THE[/b] guy to be crucified? Surely the most famous? And although everything you're saying about carbon dating might be true, you have to remember: this is a film and I don't think the writer would go so far as to confuse you with the innacuracies of carbon-dating. Also the year is 2093: maybe carbon-dating is utterly accurate by this point? Maybe they developed some brilliant science to make this possible? We can only speculate so far.

QUICK ANSWER: The Hawaiin "Punch" tasted too good !

There's no good reason to think carbon dating would be inaccurate on another planet. All you do is compare the ratio of C14 to C12/C13 in the atmosphere to the ratio in the dead sample. Obviously, if you compare the ratio in a dead sample on another planet to the atmosphere on Earth, you'll get a bad estimate. But they had access to the atmosphere on LV-223, and I'm sure that whoever designed that machine and the woman using it were smart enough to know these things and that machine took readings from the LV-223 atmosphere to use for comparison. To the larger point, though, the fact that engineers kept visiting after the events on LV-223 and did not destroy humanity definitely seems to point to a hole in that theory. All that theory is based on is David deciphering from the mission brief that they were going to earth and Shaw/Janek's belief that the site is a military weapons depot and the payload biological WMDs. There are plenty of alternative explanations, including the possibility that one group of engineers on one moon don't necessarily have the same intentions as another group from another planet 700 years later (e.g. Vikings may have wanted to visit England to wipe out the English but modern Norwegians probably visit for other reasons), or the possibility that they only wanted to test what they were carrying on small samples, with say, one isolated island on Earth their first destination. Maybe they did that and wiped out the mammalian population of Fiji 2000 years ago, took note of the results, and moved on. As for the Jesus theory, still doesn't hold up. If the behavior of the Romans was the problem, well, Jesus wasn't sent to the Romans, didn't try to reform them, and didn't seem to care much about them either way. And Jesus didn't become widely known until many centuries later. He wasn't at the time anywhere near being the most famous person crucified by the Romans. Hell, Spartacus was more famous, and he was actually killed for attempting to overthrow the empire. If the excesses of the empire were offending the engineers, Spartacus as an emissary makes more sense than Jesus. Why send someone to reform Judaism if Rome is the problem?

Engineers = 8-9' tall, milky white skin, completely bald, no nipples, weird alien eyes, 20 pack abs. Jesus = jewish, bearded, average Nazarene. But I guess he could have been in disguise? Haha

jesus has awesome abs too! IT"S A MATCH! kidding

@Icarus1 Ever know that one tall handsome kid at school...who had the most ANNOYING younger brother? I did. And If I had the power...I'd banish him to another planet. Him and his card tricks.

There's a few theories, but no explanation why yet. In interviews the producers have said there are hints at why in Prometheus, but I can't identify all of them. There was the talk about children killing their parents, faith, who created who, blah blah. When I watch a second time I will pay close attention to the dialogue. 1. Jesus Christ Theory - 2,000 years. Not 1500, not 1000, not a million. 2000. C'mon has to be more than coincidence. Carbon dating can be off within 100 years I would hope. It'd be too obvious if they said oh he died exactly 2064 years ago (30 AD). -the engineers would explain thinking for religion (gods/demons,etc) -these ships/xeno represent the apocalypse? 4 ships =4 horsemen (reaching too far? probably) 2. Sumerian/Greek/Persian myth allusions There's a whole thread (you should have read by now) that explains the engineers as a sub race under Dragon Gods/Annunkai. go read that but here are some points -Opening sequence is an engineer used a a sacrifice to bring life to earth ordered by an older engineer or possibly his superior (we see a disk shape craft instead of horseshoe) -engineers become jealous/despotant of humans and want to eliminate us, and/or also eliminate Dragon Lords through xeno (wait dragon lords - xenomorph similarity? huh?) 3. Engineers use liquid as bioweapon to destroy human population and use Earth as new home world/colony in general. -I don't know how killing a whole planet of xenos is easier than fighting humans tho. That's all I have for now. I'm not arguing that these are correct, just throwing them out there.

Mayan civilisation ended approximately 900yrs after christ death, The mesopotamian civilisation ended about 100yrs after christ death, I can only speculate tht the engineers were there even furtuer back (the cave drawing could've only depicted the engineers once visited earth, but didnt drew any hint of why the engineers-wanting-to-wipe-us-out-agenda) So the notion of "the engineer visited us twice n why didnt the engineer wipe us out during mayan/hawaiian period" does not justified at all. One thing is for sure, they were planning to wipe us out no matter what or when.

Additional thought: They cant! Cause they were too busy running away frm something n one even die a horribly-stupid death by tripping n falling n got his bloody head decapitated by his own flippin door!! Come on i'm sure ridley can come up with another cooler way the all-so-great-god-like engineer can die a matyr???? Come on!!!!!

[u]One thing is for sure, they were planning to wipe us out no matter what or when. [/u] They are big and scary, and they work with scary stuff. But 100% sure that they were going to wipe us out. That's unscientific. [u]Additional thought: They cant! Cause they were too busy running away frm something n one even die a horribly-stupid death by tripping n falling n got his bloody head decapitated by his own flippin door!! Come on i'm sure ridley can come up with another cooler way the all-so-great-god-like engineer can die a matyr???? Come on!!!!! [/u] You think he tripped because he was clumsy or because he was infected? Perhaps the door shut on him because it detected the infection? If so, then this bio-lab/temple has some quarantine safeguards. And when David opened the door, and the humans entered, it triggered a different safeguard... activate black goo... and let the trespassers suffer the consequences.

@Brightonrock [u]Why do you not think they were trying to wipe us out? I'd like to know your reasoning.[/u] It's a guess. Not conclusive at all, but here's my reasoning. These dudes have been visiting us for millenia. It seems that they have a higher tolerance of Carbon Monoxide than us, as shown by the fact that the dude who chased Shaw ran from one ship to another without a helmet. (A normal human would be unconscious in 2-3 breaths in 3% concentration of Carbon Monoxide, and as Forde said... dead in minutes. ) So why then is their atmosphere inside the tunnels, even cleaner than Earth air? Because it mimics Earths atmosphere before the Industrial Revolution. Why? They've been bringing 'specimens' back from Earth, and their experiments require the specimens not to be dead in minutes. If you don't assume (as there is NO proof) that Scene 1, sacrifice was ancient Earth, then the reason for Space Jockeys sharing our DNA is rather obvious. They are the result of experiments on abducted humans. Some genes are inhibited (not removed by prevented from expressing the characteristic) -e.g. some of the skin pigments, nipples and body hair are lacking. And they seem to be clones or very similarly selectively bred specimens that are larger and more muscular, much as the way slave owners in the US would breed the larger and stronger slaves to get stronger workers. As to their motives, when David (the only non-idiot of 16 crew... but the one who deliberately speaks in vague ways to keep his own intentions hidden) says to Shaw "sometimes to create one has to destroy" she ASSUMES that her worst fears are true. But he could be talking about another "Igor, bring me more bodies" mission. That's one argument. Plus, the Space Jockey who wakes up, bows ever so briefly, as if he expected that his masters had woken him. When he discovers that it's Weyland... who treats David like a drone slave, controls 80 terraformed worlds, and whose thug Jackson uses a shotgun butt to hit Shaw... he perhaps senses that these are not his masters. A quick flick of Davids hair... (IF you recall the big stone head in the Temple, and the head in the ceiling painting "Cistene Chapel" type thing... were bald) and perhaps he senses David is robotic. He beats Weyland to death with David's severed head and then dispatches Jackson and Forde... Weyland's underlings. He surely knows the Shaw is not an underling, as she defied Weyland. When he catches Shaw... he doesn't simply smash her face into the wall in one second flat (look at how quickly he killed Jackson... a big thug with a shotgun.) He grabs her. We can assume he will rip her apart. But we should always bear in mind what we have assumed, and what we KNOW. We don't KNOW he would kill her. She won't take the chance of course, and unleashes "cuddles" who has been busy eating two of Weylands cronies... who didn't even know what the hell was going on. (nice job on not warning anybody about the squid in the MedPod room, Shaw. ) For all we know, Big Blue dude being woken by humans rather than his masters, was glad of the opportunity to be free of their fear. Then he realises Weyland also makes slaves. But Shaw is different. But he does not speak her language. How can he communicate to her. In fairness the best way might be to drag her back to the ship and show her some more 3D holograms. But he didn't count on a panicked Shaw unleashing a beast on him. Any good scientist has to consider alternative explanations for their theory. Shaw chooses to believe something, and not the alternative... even when the data can be interpreted either way. I have offered an alternative. A lot of conjecture and little proof. The same is true of Shaws theory,,, and she may well be searching the galaxy for a bunch of 'gods' who in reality are a bunch of kidnappers, slavemasters, and murderers.... and she wants to have a philosophy debate.

I believe that the engineers at that point did not have the agenda of wiping us out as we were not advanced enough for them to think of us as a threat ( just like we will not destroy a robot we created until it shows signs of wanting to damage us) but that is what I choose to believe and in no way should it discredit anyone here.