The Elaborately Stacked Urns Had To Have Spilled Everywhere When The Derelict Cr
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Shilliam Watner
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2012 11:49 AMThey had to. This is Shilliam Watner. Remember the way they were stacked in the cargo hold when David entered it? They were stacked like a hour glass in the middle and also stacked along the walls. I never saw any support system for keeping them intact and that leads me to believe that the urns went everywhere when the Derelict impacted the ground and rolled after the Prometheus rammed it. Also if the power systems went out on the Derelict and the chilled atmospheric conditions in the urns cargo hold were compromised after it crashed, would the urns have become activated as they did in the Temple Room?
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Thee Company Man
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2012 12:42 PMPeople are also asking how Davids body stayed by him after the crash. You can write it off straight out of the scifi writers handbook. Alien tech close to our own inertial dampers.

EGR101
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2012 12:47 PMRemember Vickers is still lying underneath the Juggernaut. If the black goo can reanimate the dead, ala Fifield, maybe we have something for the sequel here, hmmm

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2012 1:53 PM[u]People are also asking how Davids body stayed by him after the crash. You can write it off straight out of the scifi writers handbook. Alien tech close to our own inertial dampers.[/u]
Well, he and his body presumably rolled around a bit on the walls, and then settled together by the walkway around the bridge. (He's not where he had fallen before the crash. He's on a lower level when Shaw finds him. )

HyperNova
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2012 4:05 PMShaw could have repaired Davids head, affixing it back upon his body as Ripley attempted to re-activate Bishop in Alien 3 we just don't see it upon film when Shaw does it. She may not but it would be prudent for her to do so as she would need his expertise and his help if she is to assume the pilots chair and make for the stars. She does not know that he affected events that impregnated her with that hiddeous creature incubating within her. How do we know that if she does repair Daid (off camera) that he does not let her do some of his dirty work before attacking and subdoing her for what ever reason that he has an alternate agenda?

Ancient Alien
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2012 8:08 PMi was wondering about that as well. Shaw also must've entered and exited the juggernaut cockpit from a different corridor than David did because she would've passed ( and affected ) the urns, spilled or not. That shit would've been everywhere....
One more thing- the woman that was about to put Shaw to "beddy bye" before Shaw knocked her out with a 2x4, must've been on some serious pain meds, cause when Shaw stumbles into the room where Weyland is, that woman doesn't seem to care, nor does David, who was intent on putting her down... He just says he admires her survival instincts or something like that...
Loved it though. Wish more movies nowadays made ya think afterwards.
I've seen it 3 times. Its best on IMAX fer sure....

HyperNova
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 5:40 AMI feel as though they were perhaps all androids of various descriptions, and the hint is dropped a couple of times when Janek asks Vickers Are you an android? So for Shaw to beat them about like that then they are happy as larry few scenes later as if nothing has happened prior to her smaking them around the head to escape smacks of either Ridley Scott elluding to the fact possibly that many within this future society are androids or they within this Weyland company are just incrediblycolld and indifferent to life, apart from Welands himself. I wonder if during the later course of the film after Shaws cesarean and she stumbles into the room if it were not just her and Weland himself that were humans only within that scene as the rest and their behavior was very androdynous to me. They didn't even attempt to run to her aid as any feeling medical person would and start to clean her up from all that blood that was all over her and begin to help sedate her, make her feel warm and welcome. They did none of that stuff as a medical team should do they just catered to Peter Weylands toe nails for Christs sake! Inhuman beings It seems they all were, maybe even Weyland himself. There was an idea that in Blade Runner Tyrell at the end was actually an android and Roy actually finds the REAL dead Tyrell-father figure in a sarcophagous like room at the very top of the cyber pyramid as he and the company were trying to save face and keep up the pretence by mainting the status quo. Perhaps Peter Weyland and co were doing the same thing in Prometheus.

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-18-2013 5:25 AMHyperNova
You covered a lot of ground in this post from last year. Can I assume you have changed your mind a bit as no follow-up was added?
I would disagree on only one aspect: When Shaw entered the Weyland room it was David(the only known robot0 which seemed to attend to her needs by covering her with his coat/lab jacket. Although he could have done this for medical reasons it David was attending to her modesty needs. She really looked exposed.
Also david seemed shocked when Shaw entered the room. Somebody gave Shaw something to drink.
To me this looked like the room where David uncorked the 'Goo Bottle'. Who is to say he didn't add a drop of goo to her drink for another experiment.
I don't know why he would want to expose Shaw to another round of 'goo' after effects but it would have been a good opportunity.
The morte i think of it perhaps David added a drop of goo to Weyland's preparations to meet the maker.
THat would be ironic to have Weyland meet his maker while being infected with goo, a creation of the Engineer's world , his god.
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Redhead Ripley
MemberOvomorphJan-30-2013 11:22 PMI have another question. Why vases in the Big Head room started oozing after humans entered and why vases in the room where the last engineer was sleeping didn't started oozing?
I have a pretty good idea of where it is. It's just down there, in the basement....

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-30-2013 11:43 PMThe question implies that the vases/urns/ampules in the big Head room and the ones in the Juggernaut's cargo hold contain different something.
The neatly stacked containers on board the Engineer's ship could have been fiilled with anything but, as you observed, perhops not 'goo'.
In any case the urns must have been tossed about a bit. I wonder if David knew what was in the on-board containers?
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Indy John
MemberOvomorphFeb-01-2013 1:35 PMI hate to post after my own post but a thouhgt came into my mind. The Urns shape, ampules, just doesn't seem like a likely packaging for inter srteller transportation. They are beatutle to look at especially when David first enters the cargo sorage area.
When shaw show Janek the massive amounts of ampules stacked on the floor and the walls of the ship are kind of impressive. Almost like they were for display rather than a practical way to transport and even move the stacks around.
I really don't know what to make of it.
It was curious that when David first saw the cargo hold he didn't express(even for a robot) a fear or even horror of the sight of all the containers.
The horror expression would have to wait til Shaw and janek saw this hold. Their reaction was quite real and ominous. This would lead to deadly consequenses.
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oduodu
MemberXenomorphFeb-01-2013 5:22 PMto all
Maybe the jugg has artificial gravity ? that kept David where he was. Something maybe like the stealth runs in resurrection ??
I am guessing the ampules have to be armed (as someone else on this forum suggested) before they they will be able to release the goo like a fail safe.

Major Noob
MemberOvomorphFeb-01-2013 5:45 PMOduodu- I'm with you on that. Im also thinking the impact was probably more heard than felt. Another thing- I'm thinking the Juggernaut weighed very little when it came down.
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