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LostHive
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:31 PMHow could the SJ chasing Shaw make it to where she was after the crash, without his helmet? They breath air like us which is why they built the domes which were breathable to them and us.
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David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:37 PMLet Lindelof answer that one:
"IT'S MAGIC!"
yep
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:43 PMalso:
[img]http://2damnfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Alien-Meme-Doesnt-Understand-Human-Behavior.jpg[/img]
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:44 PMOr perhaps they can tolerate that air, and the artificial atmosphere inside was designed long ago for humans whose planet they've been to several times in 35,000 years.

shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:45 PMa wizard did it, and this is the foot of the big head...
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/20090225110436Foot-statue.jpg[/img]

David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:47 PMShambala:
LMAO. good one.
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqwoc4wRwI1qzzta5o1_500.jpg[/img]
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-26-2012 12:49 PMOr... his Bio-Mechanical skin filtered the air so he could breathe outside the temple...

shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:50 PMA scene from Prometheus sequel with Bugs Bunny massaging the head of an Engineer, courtesy of Lindelof.
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/83.gif[/img]

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-26-2012 12:52 PM...yet no-one seems bothered that the Engineer ran from the crashed Juggernaut to the lifeboat BAREFOOT...

David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 12:54 PMSnorks:
Are you implying Bob has Athlete's foot???
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-26-2012 12:56 PMNah...
All that fancy tech and no shoes??? and not a cut on his twinkies???

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-26-2012 12:59 PMNever... well, maybe when in the chair... 2000 years and not even slippers next to the stasis pod???

David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:02 PMLV-223 was next to the beach in LOST... just sayin'
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Sundar
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:05 PMI believe I saw pink, bunny slippers next to the stasis pod .

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-26-2012 1:12 PMYeah David wore 'em, that's why the Engineer ripped his head off LOL

shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:17 PMThe small beginnings of the Lindelof career
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/mib_080DavidCross.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/david-cross-alvin-chipmunks-chipettes.jpg[/img]

shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:18 PMand his thesis
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/WTF.jpg[/img]

RipLeesLover
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:20 PMI think he can adjust to the atmosphere there cause he had like gills in his neck. I agree with Snorkelbottom, probably a function of his biosuit.

Cyberdeath
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 1:37 PMWhat a rediculous amount of speculation. Why can't he just hold his breath? Most regular humans can for 5-10 minutes. U guys need to watch abyss again.

StayPuft
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 5:59 PMThose aren't his feet. He was wearing Vibrams.
[img]http://www.davison.com/creators/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/kso_black1.jpg[/img]

David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 6:17 PMlol, never seen those.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Svanya
AdminPraetorianJun-26-2012 8:17 PMI know... I too went over this scenario 20 times in my head. I never once saw a helmet anywhere either just in case the SJ might have removed it. All the inconsistencies make me a sad panda BUT I can't focus on them or I will go nuts. :(

artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-26-2012 8:33 PMI assumed that the helmet came back off, after the croissant hit the deck. The "statues" or suits, standing on plinths, just outside the map-room, included masks, along with boots. The "hologram" running SJs were also wearing masks.......so either the version attached to the chair can separate from it, or there's a different, portable version.

Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 10:28 AMIt'll all be in the directors cut - or not and we can finally call it a shit film and lay it all to rest :D ...

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 1:59 PMIt may be deliberate, rather than an error.
The suits we see them all wearing may be for working with the black goo. If it's dangerous, and if it requires a cold room with no moisture, then it makes sense to wear those suits to prevent their warm moist breath from activating the black stuff.
They may not need them for breathing in the local atmosphere at all. Consider scene 1, how close do you imagine that air was to something we could breathe? There is a patch of something that looked like moss in one of the shots, so even if it is Earth it's not necessarily 4 billion years back when the atmosphere contained lots of methane and ammonia, but it still could be unsuitable for a normal (unadapted) human.
If it's deliberate, then it's a clue. And it leads me to the conclusion that the nice clean atmosphere generated inside the dome is for the benefit of humans.
It seems odd to us, being used to scenes of airlocks etc, that it seems not to be sealed from the outside, but that's probably a hint at the way termite mounds by their design can balance gases. - but in this case reversed, as the bad air is outside, and rather than the termite mound being warmer and drawing in 'fresh air' to come in and up through the mound, we are told that it is cold in the tunnels, so it may be a similar system in reverse. Breathable air manufactured in those spirals that we saw only on the 3D map, drawn down through the structure.
And there is a continuously breathable atmosphere from the ship to the urn chamber
If they have been bringing humans on each of their visits to Earth, then they would need that set up to avoid all the humans passing out in seconds due to carbon monoxide poisoning.
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NCC 1701
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 3:34 PMhe is house brok`in ,,takes his hat off to a lady ,,,,,,,
removes his shoes going into a new house

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 4:51 AMYou don't need to have seen any other Ridley Scott movies to make a judgement on this, and I do think it needs more than one viewing. It's like trying to cram a book into a movie and still leaving lots in. You're going to miss stuff on one viewing, or at least you won't have time to digest one scene while the next one starts.
When it comes out on DVD to buy or rent, get it. sit down, and you got your pause button (or a notebook to take not of anything quick or odd - weird visuals, odd dialogue or positions... that might be clues)
Film reviewers usually see a film twice and bring a notebook (you can get used to writing in the dark without looking at the page... not very neat, but useful)
But that won't give you all the answers. I got a very strong feeling watching this film (about halfway through) that it was shaped towards a sequel with just Shaw and her polar opposite David - the gullible but brave believer, and the smart, deceiving and unempathic android.
There is very little conclusive proof of anything, and for some scenarios there are hints at multiple explanations, not all equally plausible.
You can decide which you think more likely, and for some of them, you either accept they won't be answered, or you gotta wait for the sequel.
I think some of the questions, like the helmet, are actually clues to other questions, rather than just 'lose threads' themselves.
But I'm okay with not knowing all the answers. It can be a Marie Celeste of a film, so long as it doesn't expect me to assume 'magic'.
What happened on LV 426 ? I don't know. It would be cool to get a good answer, but it might not be critical... There's WW2 aircraft stuck in the Sahara sine the 1940s and we don't know the individual story... just that there was a war on. That may as much detail as we get about the derelict on LV 426. That dude was sitting in that chair, dead when Kane, Dallas and Lambert found him, and it's not even clear if the explosiong at Hadleys Hope Colony extended out as far as the derelict. He may still be sitting there.
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