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tankgirl
Social LiasonMemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 4:46 AMhad an interesting idea
not sure if it works yet but...
what if the Engineers were actually 'born' from part of a genetic experiment/development by weyland industries
and the engineer escaped from us..he was the 'prometheus' we were the gods
in the weyland site there is a genisis page which I think is locked/classified
the engineers wanted to get rid of us....
david8 saying... dont we all want our parents dead
I know Weyland Industries is widely spread
also might explain David 8 appearing to know more
and maybe Shaw has a genetic alteration
there are some other connected ideas
but probably more holes than substance
and it will fall apart
so I will leave it until I hear whether the idea is worth working on or dropping
Its a fun concept anyway :)
\"My God, its full of stars\" David Bowman
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Sky
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 9:13 AMIsn't that like snake chasing it's tail? Like the idea, but they maybe maker of other creatures if FOX decides to build other sequels on them. Not engineers or the species who created humans.
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Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 6:09 AMHmm they would have to go back in time and visit earth as well :S . It think it more likely that they are us in the future and time travelled back to alter our own history if you know what I mean...We created ourselves :S !

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 6:19 AM I'm still of the opinion that POTENTIALLY what we see in the opening sequence of Prometheus is US (that's those 'humans' who survive the Weyland Yutani black-goo gene-wars) that's the remnants of humanity RETURNING TO EARTH in the year 4,000 once all the genetic-weapons' effects have been neutralised.
A NEW EARTH.
:)
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Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 6:30 AMWould be great if there was a massive twist - they can make films so much better - but it will have to be one that fits in with all the stuff we seen so far of course :P ...

David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 6:54 AMNice ideas, but actually no.
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CBT1979
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 11:33 AMsorry but that would be the most illogical plot ever.
Why?
Because Why would Peter Weyland want to find the key of being immortal by his own creation?
And your theory is totally ignoring the scene of the sacrificial engineer who might have visited earth 100.000 years ago and the more recent visits where mankind has cave paintings showing the visit of the Engineers.
The engineers could do spacefaring before mankind even existed.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 9:40 AMYeah...I can't go down that road. It would require time travel and as I have instituted a personal ban on the concept in contemporary sci-fi (as to whether or not I respect it), I just can't let it pass.
What little credibility the film has would entirely go out the window, especially considering the fact that Weyland himself assumes and believes the engineers made us, so there's no possibility of his company being responsible for them. The magnitude of that reality would not logically or reasonably allow for HIS ignorance in this regard. It Just would not work....

allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 10:00 AMI do not believe this stands up completely straight.

Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 10:01 AMWeyland industries invent the super humans 100's or 1000's of years from the end of the film they become engineers eventually - invent time travel go back to find the beginning of life / god but realise they accidentally started it them selves and try to fix some awful problem like a paradox but then find they have made it worse or something and catastrophe happens and wipes most of them out or similar. It could eventually make sense sci fi can do that :P !
But yes I dont think it could be this exact version of time travel it doesn't fit perfectly and wouldn't be the best rout. But you get the gist.

tankgirl
Social LiasonMemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 1:31 PMInteresting reads everyone .....
I thought maybe the initial scene may not have been earth
so then no need for time travel
and with Weyland wanting immortality
I thought maybe he began the engineers who went on to develop longer life
so Weyland returns to reap his fruit
so to speak
But I have to agree
its rather far fetched :)
Ok Im chucking that one out... ha ha ha ha ha
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Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJul-18-2012 6:27 AM"Because Why would Peter Weyland want to find the key of being immortal by his own creation?"
Maybeee hmm cos he dont know its his creation - doh! The creation was made 100s of years or more after he died by his company dimbo lol!
"And your theory is totally ignoring the scene of the sacrificial engineer who might have visited earth 100.000 years ago and the more recent visits where mankind has cave paintings showing the visit of the Engineers.
The engineers could do spacefaring before mankind even existed."
They were trying to guide there own evolution of course! Maybe fix something. Or maybe it already happened so they knew they had to do it again or they don't exist - paradox!
And like I said the real theory would be more polished so it fits exactly into the film hence the word 'gist' as in if you get the basic idea and then take it further...siigh...Anyway I don't reckon it will be this line of plot - I got a better one in my head and I hope its that...

tankgirl
Social LiasonMemberOvomorphJul-18-2012 7:19 AM@Crabfart
Thanks for the discussion :)
but....
You cant leave me hanging with "Ive got a better one in my head"
ok.....
Ive chucked my floppy theory out the door......
Ready to hear yours
or maybe a link to another thread you have written about it? :)
\"My God, its full of stars\" David Bowman

Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJul-18-2012 10:19 AMI would probably need 10 pages of posts to write it out and I reckon no one will read it :( ...Ill just say two things: prophecy and engineers trying to stop it !

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-21-2013 6:18 PMtankgirl
Don't give up on your thinking...
In thinking over then opening scene maybe it is not a flashback to long ago past.
Think of the sacrifial Engineer as being innthe present. Tghen with the next scenes taht begins the flashback sequence.
In other words everythign we see in the movie is a flashback.
Your ideas of Weyland Corp. creating the Engineers well it might not be so crazy. I don't know about development time but to me the Engineer didn't exhibit any physical skills or mental skills that humans could not quickly learned.
He seemed more robotic in how he moved and reacted to the meeting of humans.
Because he had physical superiority he won the battle in the Orrery.
But that could have been engineered by the Weyland Labs. Even if the Last Engineer was areally a Bio-Mech creation that doesn't seem to far fetched for a motivated Weyland to develop and utilize in exploring/creating new worlds.
In Fact in really far out reach LV-223 could be a Weyland Lab developing Goo that got out of hand.
All I am suggesting is that the Engineers and humans are related.
Look at the openning scene as result in the future of human develpment.
Our story is really the backstory of humanity and it's evolving into the future., the beginning of our movie.
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