went in with low expectations

personally i enjoyed the movie a lot, but if you starting to compare it today's realism :( no you cant enjoy it then, maybe society in the future found a fault in getting the "smartest, most adaptable, most proven, and stable people this planet can muster, and they'll form a team that will train together for months if not years, before they make that likely one way trip" and they thought meh randoms are good enough, just take a look at there Facebook profile they look stable. who knows :P just wondering what protocols will be in the future, as today's business world relates to who you know not what you know mostly

"One day, we'll send people to Mars. They'll be some of the smartest, most adaptable, most proven, and stable people this planet can muster, and they'll form a team that will train together for months if not years, before they make that likely one way trip." (asdf7777) @ asdf7777: the scenario you described above is completely out of context with the events and motivations depicted in the film. Deep space travel, the colonizing of a multitude of various planets/moons etc, and terraforming are all events that have happened many times over prior to the events of prometheus. The characters in prometheus were not necessarily meant to be the top minds in their respective fields. Remember; this was a private mission, conducted for the sole purpose of extending weyland's life (obviously shaw's motivations had nothing to do with extending weylands life, but her "quest" was not at all why the mission took place). As far as the visuals are concerned...saying they were just good is a tough sell. You also bring in the whole "in this day and age" thing. Well, "in this day and age", complete garbage CG fx dominate the motion picture industry. Many "visuals" look worse today than they did in 1985 because scads of filmmakers have abandoned doing things "in camera". There may be flaws in the film, but ridley did a hell of a job marrying in-camera techniques with subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) CG augmentation. Whatever else prometheus may or may not be, the film is beautiful. I agree that some of the dialogue is sub-par, but i disagree with your overall assessment of the film. Obviously we are here to express our opinions and thats what we both have done (in other words, im not trying to be rude). I feel that the film is a modest triumph because of the lovely fictional world that has been created as well as the compelling narrative (replete with subtext and dimensionality) that was spun. Parts of the score irritated me the first time i saw the film (some of the cues felt incongruent with what was happening on the screen), but that irritation seemed to subside with subsequent viewings. Shame you didnt enjoy the film. I Hope we get a second one and some people are able to jump back on board.

@ joeyjoe [img]http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h428/rinsaki_sama/Le%20Face%20of%20Rage/eea647fc.jpg[/img]

@tanker: im sorry. im a bit slow. what did i miss? hehe. edit: oh the "visuals"? maybe? LOL. i amaze myself sometimes.

@joeyjoe haha...its just your response makes my response look like poopmetheus :( i didn't even think camera techniques

[i]about all that left me with is some decent visuals. but even those, in this day and age.... they just weren't that great. good. but not great.[/i] The visuals were the films saving grace...they were sensational. I saw it in 3D and just couldn't believe how beautiful it looked. What are you expecting from the visuals of a sci fi movie "in this day and age"???

Yes for allot of us too it was a very strange experience - yer nothing blew me away really with the visuals. But I did like the way the engineers acted - seemed very well done - clarity of mind and ultra focus - nice language etc.. The over all idea I reckon was heading in the right direction but kind of never got there - but this doesn't mean its over - it could still become better possibly if it was part of an overall plan?! And yes some of the dialogue / actions of the crew were mind bendingly awful and the charters - only shaw and david were worth watching tbh! I didnt hate the film all in all but it upsets me that it had such wonderful parts mixed in with such awful clangers - could of been so much better...

dude, Prometheus was a movie based on ancient astronauts stuffs ... What did you expect? a hard science fiction film? and even we have an astronaut with weed in his helmet LOL, and remember these wise words "every time when you see a hole in the plot or any scientific incoherence ... then ... A WIZARD DID IT!" XDD

I would call you almost completely right - and I agree with the commentary on the tremendous allowances that audiences are, actually, more than willing and happy to make - [i]if[/i] they are presented with good Film. I might say that the visuals were a little better than great, to be fair - and I would say the kind of crew you describe is not really the kind of Crew I think Prometheus was supposed to be carrying....I don't think they were supposed to be the 22nd Century's "Right Stuff" - they seemed to be intended as a bunch of at least competent Contractors, poorly briefed, with badly-defined leadership and under poor Command. That is a very different kind of team - [and that combination should have set the screen on fire...]. However, I would also have to say that making an allowance for a corrected context of the Crew, as a point of order, would actually change absolutely nothing in the terms of what you have said about that Crew, as the correct context does not one thing to improve them. To my mind, unless you corrected the context of the Crew down to, "they are, quite intentionally, implausible and dull imbeciles" - the Crew, (as an element of [i]Characters[/i], not Actors), are still garbage. My view is that Prometheus possesses a few undoubtedly good qualities, (mostly to do with visual, design and stylistic elements): but, seems to me, those qualities actually aren't enough - and still leave it a long....long, way short of actually being a good film. No excuses.

*Yawn*

I didn't endure; as asdf7777 did, too much disappointment in the entire production. However, the biggest failure for me came when Lindelof said in a youtube interview- "That his head is in a space that embraces ambiguity." He also said in the same part of that interview that showing the events that lead to what everyone knows is inevitable isn't interesting. He left out the "to him" part... We are; instead, to make up, imagine, discuss, argue, conjure or otherwise do the work of connecting the dots that he cannot present!! Or, perhaps as I guess- unable to conceive of. He seems to think that scrambled concepts and confused continuity are entertaining to the audience... For me, this is an extremely bad way to tell a story. Lindelof admits at the beginning of that part of the this interview, that it (ambiguity) is frustrating for some... Yes! When events are portrayed in a story, that add up, that make sense and ARE (even just a little bit) CONCLUSIVE (inevitable?), they make an unfrustrating story- even at the expense of a production that has major flaws. There are some in this forum that will say that "I love to hate" unexplained, inconclusive or deliberately unanswered questions. I love a great story. I love a great script. I love going to see a movie that meets the expectation of having come from a great director. I love any production that outsmarts me with an unusually presented connection of dots. I enjoy it when I "get it" after seeing the film. Wicked and The Sixth Sense come to mind here... I cannot stand a writer who annoys his audience with absurdly presented, disconnected events and/or plot assumptions that are intentionally deficient in detail. I don't hate this film- I just don't get it. There aren't many parts of this film that come together. And there isn't anything in this film that is in harmony with the original. This is; indeed, far beyond frustrating.

So true aircraft...I once made a ambiguous video which was a music video I felt as it was a music video it could be done in this way - but I also tried to put across a simple message within the video. After it went out I got tons of views and people started raving about it in forums - I was so pleased! But then people started to talk about what it meant and I couldn't believe my eyes! On different forums on different sites people came up with totally different ideas for what it was about - some even thinking it was the opposite to what my actual idea was! This really opened my eyes to the power of ambiguity... I then started to look at other peoples work that was ambiguous in video and other areas. And in almost every case it was the same - people read into the art adding in most cases what they wanted to think it was - this is exactly what Lindelof has realised - he is basically milking this way of doing things and now ridley has bought into it. But with a film like this it just feels like its been taken too far and only the most forgiving of people are able to let it pass...

I think one of the movie's biggest problems (aside from the stunningly stupid characters) is the fact that [b]it does not work as a stand-alone film[/b]. If Prometheus works at all (and we won't find out for years whether it does or not), it works ONLY as the first chapter of a two- or three-movie story arc. Hopefully, Prometheus will be a good film IN RETROSPECT, after we see the next film(s).

@Costaguana; Actually I would have preffered it not be associated with the "Alien" series, I thought it was fine as a stand alone movie.

I too went with low expectation but the pace was too fast for me. Also the acting and the character development was poor. I guess people just loved it for the visuals.

Svanya, I agree with you. The only thing that would have made Prometheus even better for me would be to get rid of all the childish, pseudo-sexual Alien references which have been done to death to the point of absurdity.