3 quick questions about the Prometheus sequel (1/3)

1. I think both. 2. Army presence? No.

Hey Sky :) i just changed the question for more precision. Now the 1 is do you think that any Weyland or Yunati presence is welcome ?

Weyland Yutani presence will add some corporate mischief into the plot which works for alien/prometheus franchise. It'll help them for further sequels too. 3) Previous questions need to be answered (even if they were poorly posed in prometheus movie) or else there will be no point in the rest of the two movies. It will end up like crew slashing or suvival horror type movie (with marine corps) than scifi one.

1) Not too much. 2) No. Army ruins everything (seen too many army movies). 3) I think no, since it's sequel to P1

1. yes 2. not really (or not yet) 3. at the end there should be a clearer answer

1) Yes yes yes yes !!!!!! 2) No 3) No Nice love this. It is so unambiguous!!!!!!!!

1 - yes 2 - HELL NO 3 - irrelevant

1. It had better 2. Please God, no 3. I don't think it really matters when Weyland and Yutani merge, but keep the military out of it.

1. Yes, but it shouldn't be all about it. It should also be about other kings either forming colonies and Empires, and leaders/kings/heads of a culture that rebelled against past kings/Empires; locked in a war that has destroyed one of the Paradise colonies. Also about how the headless Weyland kingdom disintegrates before being combined with other elements, and then finally hints towards the Yutani kingdom to form the Weyland-Yutani Empire. Plus what happens to David & Shaw when they find out Paradise is not what it sounds like, and that it's been destroyed by an ancient Empire the Engineer kings were at war with. Ridley has said Paradise would be something darker. By the time they get there Paradise has already been lost. David attempts to set up his own Paradise or golden age. 2. Only an android army ;) Maybe colonial marines being trained near the end 3. No, we need new/more characters so some Weyland and Yutani scenes would be cool. But agreed that we don't need to see the merge. Maybe hints towards it at the end. I wouldn't mind seeing some marines at the end, but the marines shouldn't be major characters in the sequel.

1) Yes, I hope it does have scenes about Weyland Yutani. But kept to a minimum. 2) Marines, NO. That's been done to death, in almost every Film that's ever been made. 3) No, i really hope it does answer some questions from the first.

1)yes, after all there were small mentions to Yutani in viral advertising 2)everyone seems to be saying no, and i agree for the most part, i dont want an aliens type action movie, but some references and mentioning to them would be nice :) 3)i am not sure what you are asking to be honest :P

@ Mala'kak: I would be incline to see things like you do, i don't know why exactly, but it may be more Scott style i think. @ All: I am surprised about most of you wanting some more information about the Corporations, i fear that is was just one of the direct links to Alien and takes no direct place in a sequel, all links being destroyed in Prometheus. Also, the Weyland Yunati exist most on the web, not really in the movie. I am still to be convince !! I need more answers !!!

@ Vyemm I'm thinking some Blade Runner themes on a massive scale. Ridley's vision of the future. Corporations are kings of the Earth, and the multinational corporation we know and hate isn't in existence yet. And probably won't be if Shaw's story is going to continue without time skipping too far ahead. At this time the other ruling company, Yutani, was originally sharing control of the Earth with Weyland (the viral says Weyland is in half the world's countries or more). In my theory, Yutani is originally the more militaristic company that's actually in charge of protecting/almost ruling & policing future Earth... at first. "This isn't a warship Shaw". Weyland may have compared himself to a god/Prometheus and may be one of the characters who represents Prometheus, but he didn't have foresight. Weyland had some idea that they would find the Engineers there, but he was totally wrong in what he was looking for. Instead of finding eternal life Weyland found a weapons facility full of eternal death. A weaponized form of the fire, that because of the morphing/disintegrating/recombining traits means the Deacon favors a particular morphing based part of the life-cycle, and is the closest thing to an immortal ruler that we'll see... There's a little rivalry between companies because Weyland was brilliant and left Yutani in the dust. This brought Weyland to the forefront as the technological leader of the Earth. Yutani was forced to move into the construction/infrastructure side of things, as well as the military side of things, Arming/protecting what's left of nations, offering them assistance with their robotic security forces, building weapons and warships, spying on the populace/other companies to make sure nothing they don't know about is going on. They also reproduce what Weyland has already given the people once they can reverse Engineer it. They can also launch an independent investigation separate from the classified investigation of the Weyland board. In this way Yutani's created an android army which they use to protect their investments/Earth/nations they control/work with to a greater capacity than Weyland did. Most of them will end up Deacon/Regent fodder. And the deacon can't morph them so Yutani learns to play it safe while investigating, but things go wrong. So in this view Yutani probably doesn't have any human marines or soldiers out in space yet either. And are using their robots only for security, whereas the chart on the viral website shows virtually nothing for Weyland's security uses for David. However, Yutani kept the emotion/artificial feelings out of their androids... they didn't reverse engineer the David 8, but had plenty of time to look at what the king had left them/the pubic before. I'm thinking that if the plan is to take it this way, then it's about a lot of the Davids becoming a problem for humanity. Wanting to move up in the hierarchy, not only to see Weyland die, but to replace him in the hierarchy. David feels he's superior to humans, and hides his true (although artificial) emotions that he's developed. Yutani figured out that artificial feelings aren't a good idea if you want your creation to remain loyal members of an army, and always continue to agree with what they're told. Otherwise problems could arise if a semi-emotional android army lacks an influential head/intelligent leader to guide them and begins to find a way to develop free will through choosing what to believe. Reporting that as the truth. Yutani discovered that sometimes they have to give their androids individual personalities if they aren't going to give them feelings-- to keep them in control. Because even without emotions screwing with their inner desires Yutani found that those designs could still be a little too twitchy if mass produced, finding ways around orders because of their intelligence and logic loops. Yutani's more about reverse engineering, control, order, and reactions, while Weyland was all about knowledge/invention/pre-cognition and the actual engineering (not necessarily foresight, because they "were so wrong"). The Weyland kingdom crumbles under the influence of the black liquid and falls into disarray after losing their intelligent king/head. The kingdom/company starts to breakdown and disintegrates, but before it vanishes completely it has its elements joined to the other kingdom. Near the end of Paradise. Then, in the third movie maybe we'll see the fully formed Weyland-Yutani Empire (this ties into the Empire Lawrence fights in Lawrence of Arabia). So in my theory we don't see Weyland-Yutani together until the third movie, and very little humanoid soldiers protecting the colonies already in existence. Yutani has warships and soldiers for protecting/policing the earth but colonial marines don't exist because they don't hold as many colonies as Weyland does, and Weyland hasn't begun to implement them. He's been relying on the security type robotic servant class to an extent and giving them a privileged position over the others. Which was part of Weyland's mistake: creating classes even within his subordinate android class. That way we'll see David androids that are slightly different versions of David making up his android army, and giving some of them differently developed personalities when David becomes king David (biblical reference), now that Vickers and Weyland are dead. David's the metaphorical next in line as the "closest thing" to a prince. There wasn't any major threat that really existed before this, so only a very small percentage of the Davids are used as security to protect colonies on other worlds. Weyland was such a fool in the end that he doesn't bring much firepower with him. And only an exploratory vessel. I half-expect that Yutani would have been the one to outfit his ship with weapons had he wanted them to. But he may have not wanted them involved with this mission, and was so sure that he would get his eternal life. He only wanted to share with part of humanity. Only because he wanted to rule them and gain more favor over the other kings/queens of the Earth. That's the thing: Weyland wasn't after weapons. He wanted eternal life so he could rule forever. It may not only be greed/selfishness.. he may have simply realized the kingdom would not be the same without him. David didn't know there were weapons until he stumbles upon the fact by experimenting, then he finds the stockpile and looks at how many there are in amazement. Weyland thought he was getting immortality. I'm sure Weyland also would have took the samples and used them for weapons development to get an edge in that field over Yutani; but Yutani may have been more interested in the form of the fire that they did find. Even Holloway had clearly been thinking they were not gods before they set out. David allows Weyland to continue thinking they have the key to immortality, when all evidence leads to the contrary and leads closer to Janek's idea. Weyland told Shaw he wanted immortality; Shaw knew this place was full of only death. So did David, and he knew the ship was full of death too. He was probably thinking along the same lines as Janek. However, David allows Weyland to continue his foolish quest after washing his feet. Shaw analyzes the way things could go. This is why before they wake the Engineer she asks: "what will you do when Weyland's gone?". And David says I imagine I'd be free. Also, David starts to reveal his true goals in a subtle way from this point on and Shaw distrusts him. It's a little bit different than blade runner, because it's not only about servant classes killing or rebelling against their creators. It's also about the robotic servant class rising up and replacing the current head of the hierarchy. At the same time there will be a power corrupts theme and a "becoming like the father you hate" theme. "Like father, like son.". Also tying into the inevitable change in management after a king dies and what happens now the Vickers is dead. Let's say David does really represent Lucifer or the anti-christ as some have suggested. He may want to rule man and launch a war against the gods. He may want to rule his creators, and to save them/fight off their demi-gods, and to challenge their gods. Weyland and David both quote the same movie, indicating there is a little bit of the father in David, even though David has developed his own will and ability to lie by choosing what he believes when an unknown is involved. Like in Lawrence of Arabia David spent time learning the culture by studying ancient myth before departing. He may actually interact with more than one culture like in Lawrence of Arabia. He may see the cause of one of those cultures as just and try to help them reunite both sides of their cultures to attempt to topple an Empire (having secretly learned about both sides + the Empire and being prepared to speak all languages through his deconstruction, and recombining of ancient myth/languages. He becomes like a dark version of Lawrence of Arabia, and the French represent the android group in a way until he gets control of them and leads a rebellion against the humans and members of the board (tying into "the company is really run by deceitful androids" idea present in some of the videogames... and one version of Alien 3, plus possibly explaining things now that a true Weyland lineage has been cut). All of this while fighting off the Engineers on the side of the Elders and reuniting them with the female-leaning hermaphroditic Elders... David doesn't realize it at the time but he's been treating the humans and members of the company he basically holds hostage the same way the humans were treating him before he helped the other davids break free. And the same way the Elder engineers had once treated the Engineers, which was what landed the Elders in their current state. Still he can't give up the company and payback comes in the form of the other humans he's begun to mistreat: Yutani. Yutani, however, needs some of the connections he's made to the Elders to prevail over the Engineers and their new kings/Emperor. A biomechanical vs biological vs synthetic war begins to break out in the stars during Shaw's continuing adventure. War between a number of groups on more than one planet, with allegiances changing and being shaped by David. Prometheus was just the small beginning of David's much bigger anti-heroic adventures. A robot rebellion of sorts on a massive scale that starts it all off. in which all the Davids are now free of their creator, have emotions and feelings and have been made not only in the image of man, but also in their egotistical father's image: who wanted to be equal with the gods. It's not about David wanting to kill his parents. Sometimes "to create you must first destroy." David wants to rule.. unlike in Bladerunner where the goal was to simply kill the creator and then be free. David feels like he would be a superior leader to Weyland... that humanity is inferior to him. That he shouldn't have been made too real, because that means he's more like us. He's the closest thing to a prince... The android army will be a problem for all of the different groups involved at one point or another. Even for the Deacon because the goo and Deacon genetics can't affect David. David himself could be used as a weapon or a way to contain a growing situation. And if we're going back to a more morphing based cycle for the next movie, then that's the type of soldier you want on your side. An army of soldiers who can't be affected by the black goo/Alien directly, follows orders (at first..), and don't waste human lives. Weyland didn't care about human lives.

@ Mala'kak : I wrote an answer for you but the forum wants me to relog, erasing my answer... So, i calm myself and i will write it back.

Given that no engineers have established contact with humans for 2,000 years, my guess is they are all dead. Something may have happened to their home world. Why would they just leave us alone for 2,000 years and not try to wipe us out? I think the engineers on LV223 are the last of it. I am curious to know if any of the other ships on that planet have engineers in stasis. Hmm...