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Does Anybody Here Actually Like Alien 3 and / or 4 ?

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jerbru51

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 10:45 AM
I really did not like either of these movies, but I would really like to know why it is that other people like them and what makes these movies good to them.
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genjitsu17

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 10:57 AM
I liked 3 especially the extended cut. Mood, directing, and acting are all great. Alien's go-motion was a little crappy. (it wasn't cg, although everyone says that.) Considering all the turmoil during production, it could have been a lot worse. Ripley's end, as sad as it made me, was also well done. She was ready for the end. Ressurection was a mess start to finish. I love Joss Whedon and Jean-Pierre Jeunet, they just should never have been allowed to make an Alien film. Their styles don't go with the universe, in my opinion. :)
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphAug-31-2012 11:04 AM
Yep. I quite like Alien 3, it's an underrated sequel i think. I used to hate it because i thought the alien was garbage, i failed to see all the good things in the Film because of the alien. Alien Reserrection is complete rubbish from start to finish! Everthing about it is poor, the story, the acting, the aliens and the shody attempt at dark humour makes it really cheesy and forget about the AvP trash! Complete guff!

The poster was good though!

 

genjitsu17

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 11:08 AM
Yeah, Resserection's one liners were so bad, and not in line with the other 3.
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.

David 1

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 11:09 AM
I liked Ripley's Death. was well done as Gen said [pretty well done... as in, down into the furnace] Alien 4 was ok till that abortion of a hybrid made it's appearence. 2 best parts of it to me were when Ripley catches the ball and when she is carried by a xeno. the rest was meh.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

David 1

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 11:18 AM
Necro: "forget about the AvP trash! Complete guff!" I LIKE YOUR STYLE SIR.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

genjitsu17

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 11:21 AM
Agreed. The original comics were great. Machiko was an awesome protagonist. Movies were one of my greatest let downs in life.
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.

Svanya

AdminPraetorianAug-31-2012 11:33 AM
Yes, I like all the Alien movies. Some are better than others but still enjoyable.

oduodu

MemberXenomorphAug-31-2012 11:36 AM
Of these 2 I only liked resurrection . What I liked about how a4 was how it was almost as if Ripley (even if it was clone) somehow got payback for all the suffering the aliens caused her as she genetically inherited traits from the xenos like having the ability to sense danger in advance- she's stronger - faster - she still has ripleys memories. A TV series with clone Ripley infiltrating wallmart to gain access to files from the past of WY to uncover all the horrible experiments they have done and ultimately finding out how the sj was discovered and finally leading her to the masters of the universe and then she becomes one of them - the first female engineer. Soppy I know

David 1

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 11:59 AM
"the Chronicles of Ripley" grab your popcorn, bacon, eggs, beer and the remote.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Patient Leech

MemberFacehuggerAug-31-2012 12:10 PM
bacon and eggs? Lol I agree that all of the Alien movies are enjoyable, but not in exactly the same way. I am probably in the minority, but i actually think that Aliens is extremely overrated. The stupid marines.. ugh. Alien 3 is underrated and as much as A4 missed the mark, it still has some good ideas and is very entertaining. Obviously the original is the best, and Prometheus is my new favorite. :)

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MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 12:12 PM
I enjoy watching all the Alien series. Each has their place and tell a different type of story.

genjitsu17

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 12:12 PM
Thank god someone else loves Prometheus, it's weird feeling like an outsider for liking Prometheus, on the Prometheus site.
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.

Sky

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 12:20 PM
Alien :Yes Aliens : Yes Alien 3: Crap Alien resurrection: boring AVP: Yes AVP: R : Crap
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joeyjoe

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 1:32 PM
alien 3 (restored workprint cut) is an excellent film. I enjoy everything about it (narrative, aesthetic sensibilities, script, acting, visual execution etc.). However, alien "insurrection" was a complete abomination (i try my best to pretend that it doesnt exist).

loadagain

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 2:26 PM
I'm gonna have to agree with everyone here. 3 is quite good (director's cut), and 4 just sucks. Out of the first three I would definitely say 3 is my least favorite by far though. 4 is the only one that sucks so much I don't consider it part of the universe. It's fun to watch every few years with some friends to make fun of it though, and at least the xenomorphs look amazing! Overall here are my scores: Alien: 10 Aliens: 9.5/10 Alien 3: 8.5 Alien Resurrection: 6.5 AVP: 7 AVPR: 5 "Thank god someone else loves Prometheus, it's weird feeling like an outsider for liking Prometheus, on the Prometheus site." Amen! It's surprising all the people who stick around here when they don't like the movie. I think a second viewing and an open mind can really help people like it.

Sky

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 2:44 PM
[code]It's surprising all the people who stick around here when they don't like the movie. I think a second viewing and an open mind can really help people like it.[/code] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not here because of movie. I am here because of friends I made along the way. I love speculation, humor and shared stuff on aliens franchise on this site. So keeps me sticky here. I know should have moved onto other sites but it's difficult. Movie sucks for my tastes. Tried 2nd and 3rd viewing and open mind stuff, didn't help. It's worst even for pop corn movie category, harsh I know but thats what it is, for me atleast. I would rate it low even compared to AVP-R and Aliens 3 and 4.
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

**Al**

Community ExecutiveMemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 2:44 PM
I do like more alien and aliens than 3 and 4, but I also do like them.
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Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerAug-31-2012 3:01 PM
Alien 3 directors cut I like. Alien 4, If I had a bowl of alphabet soup, I reckon I could s**t a better script. As for Prometheus, I think it’s a bit like falling into a barrel of tits and coming out sucking my thumb. What I came out with was not what I expected, but I’m not complaining about the experience.

joeyjoe

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 3:07 PM
Alien: 9.5 Aliens: 8.5 Alien 3: 8 (maybe a bit higher) Alien Resurrection: 4 Prometheus: 9 AVP: 3 (doesnt exist in my "alien universe") AVP2: 2 (doesnt exist in my "alien universe")

Prenihility

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 3:18 PM
I've given my opinion on the Alien movies time and time again. And i'll say it once more. Alien was a great introduction. So i can't penalize it. Yes, it was pretty much a Sci-Fi monster movie. Who's content consisted of an alien terrorizing the crew of a space ship. Nothing more... But you have to ask yourself. What storyline foundations have the Alien movies laid down, in the end? The answer: Absolutely NONE. While the movies are so iconic, the art and design aspects being movie innovations - the Alien movies are completely pointless. Aliens tried, at least. Ripley went back to LV-426 with the goal of wiping out all Xenomorph life. Alien 3; Waste of your time. One...freakin' Xenomorph running around a prison. Killin' folks. DEEP! Alien: Resurrection: Bunch of Xenormorphs run rampant on a ship after escaping. With the thread of spreading if the ship reaches Earth intact. DEEP! The only thing we've gotten out of the entire Alien franchise in the end directly; Ripley's character development. Which was quite awesome. But it's unfortunate that we won't see Ripley using her new powers to the best of her abilities, maybe ... for a greater cause. And most importantly, above all else. We got Prometheus from the Alien franchise. Which needs to FURTHER itself from the Alien franchise as much as possible. The ONLY tie-in are the Xenomorphs, folks. That's it. There's NOTHING else Prometheus relates with Alien. Alien = No depth. At all.. Prometheus = Yes... a gigantic disappointment, that i still think about almost every day (usually whilst on the toilet) But i STILL love the content. And most of all... i'm still an Engineer nut-swinger. Prometheus is something much bigger, and on a more grand scale. It's telling a story with depth, and meaning. And, to be honest, is packed with much more content. Than the Alien franchise. It just hasn't reached it's full potential yet, and hasn't been fully realized. We have yet to see the Prometheus universe open up to it's optimal level. Let's just hope Prometheus looks like a LIIIIITTLE introduction, once the sequel comes out :D.

David 1

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 4:06 PM
loadagain: ^^^^^^ what Skay and JoeyJoe said ^^^^^^ people are still here not just because of the movie. If it was just because of the movie, people would still be here, but it isn't. We get to meet nice folks and have a good time reading their thoughts and posting our own. Plus, AVP-ness is out of Alien Universe.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphAug-31-2012 5:05 PM
@Prenihility- You said, "There's NOTHING else Prometheus relates with Alien.".... What about the Space Jockeys and the juggernauts? "Alien = No depth. At all".... Are you serious? My ratings: Alien- (10) Aliens- (7.5) Alien 3- (8.5) Alien Reserrection- (2) AvP- (1) AvPR- (0) EDIT: Prometheus- (9) I'm starting to like it more and more!

The poster was good though!

 

Patient Leech

MemberFacehuggerAug-31-2012 5:06 PM
Yeah, AvP is not associated with the Alien universe. That's horse piss is what that is... lol Prometheus - 9.7/10 Alien - 9.5/10 Aliens - 6.5/10 Alien 3 - 8.5/10 Alien Res - 5/10 :) Alien Resurrection is still really fun to watch and make fun of... lol

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerAug-31-2012 5:20 PM
Prometheus - 6/10 Alien - 9.8/10 Aliens - 8/10 Alien 3 - 5/10 Alien Res - 4/10 AVP 3/10 AVPR 2/10

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

David 1

MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 5:43 PM
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MemberOvomorphAug-31-2012 7:07 PM
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Sky

MemberOvomorphSep-01-2012 7:59 AM
Who cares canon or not? AVP 1 was way better than prometheus crap. It hardly makes difference if it's canon or not, especially for 90 percent of people who pay for box office money, don't even care if it's canon or not :D Prometheus with "touching every button" and " crappy acting" and "pace", AVP beats prometheus universe anytime. :p Besides, without any other threatening species, prometheus universe is crap. It needs better class of dominating vilians or darkness that attracts people. Otherwise, prometheus universe is nothing but story about species that made humans and aliens that keeps making others pregnant and while exploring this innocent crew members getting killed. What else is there to explore? nada. Finally... [img]https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_e1c99dfc74a040faf8b8.png[/img]
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

David 1

MemberOvomorphSep-01-2012 8:07 AM
SKY: All that is, sadly, true. [img]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/26009815.jpg[/img] LOLOLOLOLOL
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Sky

MemberOvomorphSep-01-2012 8:17 AM
I do accept but the point is enjoyment. Admit it. AVP(Part 1) was better than "I am touching every button" and "They want us to come and find them" crap. :D
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

Hercules

MemberOvomorphSep-01-2012 8:31 AM
Out of a possible 10 points: Alien: 10 Aliens: 8 Alien³: 9 Alien Resurrection: 4 [includes bonus points for Hillard's butt during her foot massage] AVP: 1 AVP:R: ½ [n.b.: "0" denotes a non-rating, hence "1" or "½" is the lowest possible rating.] Prometheus: 7
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