LV 223 renamed to LV426 to hide the incident

I actually proposed this very idea quite awhile ago ;-) All the ingredients are there, they just needed to have to Engineer stay in the chair.................

S@#t!!!!

Lol I never started a thread about it, but I did mention it in a few places ;-) Just goes to show, great minds, and all that ;-)

i concur with the great minds thing.....we are ridiculously good aren't we lol

Indeed my friend, indeed ;-) maybe someone would from Fox or Scott Free should consider us for writing Paradise? Cause I reckon we'd do a far better story job :-D

yeah but don't forget that this planet has three moons... [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/306530-nostromo_lv426.jpg[/img]

Was the 3rd seen in the holograph during the briefing scene in Prometheus? I don't remember seeing a 3rd in there..........

Nuh, it wasn't................. [img]http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t383/CypherZer0/LV-223Prometheus.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/images-1.jpg[/img]

So is a planet very similar that the original but with only two moons? Then in that case maybe some members are right in this [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/10426#112256]thread[/url].

Interesting. Very interesting, indeed........ You would think a guy like Ridley Scott, being as visual as he is, would remember that and include a 3rd to make it correct...... Plot hole? Oversight? Or completely different star system altogether? I'm really starting to hate this movie with a passion......................... Sorry, had to be said.

Now if only they had made it so that it had NOTHING to do with the Alien Universe at all, I may have actually enjoyed it more............. More questions upon questions......................

The "invitation" showed (5?) stars. The one they picked had a similar sun to our own with a moon in the goldie locks zone. It's quite possible LV-426 is orbiting a completely different star. I agree that Ridley would have been accurate with the hologram, if he had intended it to be the same planetary system.

[img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/tumblr_m77mt6ack91r86b9lo1_500.jpg[/img]

YAY!!! You win the Internetz!!!! :-D

Ahah! I like the pic XD Now, what was the name of the system from the Alien movie??? THe system name please?

Lambert states that they are just short of the Zeta 2 Reticuli system, so I dunno if we actually know what star system it is really in.................

Zeta 2 Reticuli it was, so then comes this: [i]"- The Search For Our Beginning Could Lead To Our End - Prometheus landed in theaters June 8th, 2012 and takes a team of scientists on an expidition across the galaxy to a moon in the[u] Zeta 2 Reticuli system named LV_223[/u][b][/b] in hopes to discover the origins of mankind. In the process they come face to face with horrific Alien creatures that threaten Earth's existence. Prometheus-Movie.com is the top Prometheus news/fan website on the net. We offer the latest news and information as well as the largest prometheus forum for fans to discuss the film. We are not affiliated with 20th century Fox and in no way own any copyrights to the film or its logos. Prometheus and its associated logos are trademarks of 20th Century Fox Film Corporation and their respective owners. Images may be subject to copyright. Site content is copyright Prometheus-"[/i] Any comments ? XD - On a short note, in the book they landed on a moon from the very Zeta 2 Reticuli system, clear cut and spoken out, and a reason for strangeness as it meant a significant route deviation from the Nostromo flight path -

We dont know if that Planet in Prometheus on that image has LV 223 hiding behind it. But again why LV 223 and LV 426 its a odd numbering system for Moons around the same Planet. Again maybe LV23 designates a Planet or System... So does LV42 mean different planet in same system or different System. I mean lets say we number our System, would we call say Mercury LV100 and thus Earth LV 300 in which the moon is LV301? Or would Mercury be LV100 and Earth LV130 and thus the Moon LV131... I think there is a significance in the naming and thus the difference from LV2** and LV4** has to stand for different System or Planets, so that thus LV5 could be either different planet in same system also or again a different System. Maybe the LV designates the System and the numbers are the Planets so LV223 is a moon around the second furthest Planet in that System and LV426 a moon around the fourth furthest Planet in that System. Or that LV is designation for a Constellation of Stars and thus LV223 is a moon within the Second System of that Star Constellation and LV426 thus part of the Fourth System in that Constellation. Ridley said they are close by but i dont think as close as around the same Planet.

Ok...again "...takes a team of scientists on an expedition across the galaxy to a moon in the [i]Zeta 2 Reticuli system named LV_223[/i][b][/b] in hopes to discover the origins of mankind." This is in the promotional material Ridley Scott and Fox released. This is from the makers of the movie. He said they are near as well. Most of the times the simplest answer is the right one, and in this case they have not even made a mistery to it. They were sent to the same system (Zeta 2 Reticuli) that the Nostromo will be sent to in the future off that timeline. Unless Zeta 2 Reticuli describes a group of stars, they ARE in the same solar system as in the first Alien movie. The names can be anything. If any sideral body form that system begins with LV, any body could follow numbers according to a given grid from Star out, maybe that explains LV this and LV that, or the order they were mapped/spotted perhaps. RHere is not much doubt on it, unless we choose to ignore the official words fromt he ones that made the movie. That or this is another big plothole...

personally i dont think it was the same planet....i agree with the whole 2 moons vs 3.....and the planet in promethus was a underground facility...and in ALIENS remember they would have already discovered the facility if they had to dig underground...remember they were terra formers.....however the "cave" like sturcture under the Jockey ship...seemed more like a storing chamber underground i.e. the mist and beam keeping the sacs in a stasis...how they were all aranged "neatly" in rows and went on for a while.....and they were already egg sacs...not vase structures like in the jockey ship.....so my opinion places these planets as two diff ones...but have a connection...one was where they were made experimented with the Strain...the other planet was where they were housing the final produt and the last ship to have made a drop off...something went wrong and the jockey never made it off the planet...i.e the warning signal..and the reason why the engineers never returned to that specific planet...they were scared...lol...

Ah The message was clear to NEVER land on that moon. Old story, deciphere by Weyland Industries (then only The Company) on "Alien" Yeah the derelict ship was carrying weapons for a specific target. Maybe it stopped at the facility in Prometheus for loading the cargo. The system is Zeta 2 Reticuli, where Ash took the Nostromo (exactly there or in its vicinity) so sure both movies are on different moons, but they could be as near as being on the same planetary system... They might explain it better later. What we know so far: Prometheus takes place in a moon in the Zeta 2 Reticuli system. The Nostromo was either on that system or actually in it in the first movie

Totally see ur point on this one Hawk....

That doesn't make much sense because David said there were several ships and they only took one with them. Renaming the moon wouldn't magically hide all the ships and LV426 was surveyed prior to installing the massive nuclear powered terraformers.

Gliese 86 both LV 233 and LV426 are moons orbiting planets (5) which revolve around the star Gliese 86 some 50 lys from Earth Simple

according to someone on another forum, in a parallel galaxy far far away, just let loose the fact that THE WEYLAND FILES on the bluray disc talk about David8 being placed on the LV-223 Prometheus mission, knowing that the real coordinates of the faint signal they'd picked up from deep space analysis pointed towards LV-426. Apparently, David8 knows all about LV-426, a planet in the same star system as LV-223. Apparently, Eldon Tyrell (of Blade Runner, killed by his own creation) is cited as being A MENTOR for the enormous conglomerate ego of one Peter Weyland. This hints that maybe MAYBE all the red-blooded crew of the Prometheus were Nexus6, while the David8 was a surveillance infiltrator for 'some other CorpTech group'. Or at least that the Prometheus universe and the Blade Runner off-world universe are gonna crash together at some point within Pro~2 or Pro~3. Classic double coverage.

If that is the case it's possible then that Weyland may have been a Nexus, almost too perfect is some ways, who moved towards the path of creating Androids as they were controllable unlike the Nexus

You people with the Bladerunner, Prometheous team up scam. Get with it people.

In refferal to the set up of the Zeta 2 Reticuli systems planets and their moons I have extracted these quotes from the PROMETHEUS script I read. Changes may have been made due to the script-to-screen process but never-the-less here are some extracts from it as I think it makes for some compelling reading as to how the Zeta 2 Reticuli planetary/moon system is set up and viewed through the eyes of the PROMETHEUS crew as opposed, or juxtaposed, to how (if it remains the same system in the narrative of the story) how they WILL be viewed through the eyes of the Nostromo crew and the Sulaco crew after that. Here are the excepts... ------------------------------------------------------------------ EXT. MAGELLAN (ZETA 2 RETICULI SYSTEM) The Magellan opens its eyes: two immense telescopes emerge from the ship. Irises open to expose huge lenses. Antennae deploy: unfurling like wings, gleaming and vast. Sifting vacuum for any whisper of information. INT. MAGELLAN - BRIDGE Outside the window, the planets orbiting Zeta 2 Reticuli are no more than bright stars. JANEK Overlay. A heads-up display appears, overlaid on the glass. The sun is labeled ZETA 2 RETICULI. Markers point out the planets and trace the ellipses of their orbits. Like magic, the planets swell into colorful orbs, each labeled: Alpha, Beta, Gamma... DOWNS Seven planets. Two hot rocks, two gas giants, three snowballs. Nothing Earthlike. Watts grins at Holloway, eyes shining. ______________________________________________ (A few pages later...) ______________________________________________ BRICK Got a hit! A moon. LV-426. The display centers on Epsilon, a gas giant with many moons. Data flickers around one of the larger moons: LV-426. BRICK (CONT’D) Eighty-six percent Earth’s mass. Atmosphere’s nitrogen, methane, sulfates. Faint returns for a bunch of metals. HOLLOWAY Anything else? The sensors complete their pass on the system’s last moon. ______________________________________________ (A few pages later...) ______________________________________________ EXT. MAGELLAN (LV-426 ORBIT) The Magellan has arrived. LV-426 is a gray moon shrouded in clouds. Behind it looms its father planet Epsilon, a lurid gas giant banded in red and gold, half swallowed in darkness. The Magellan dives into a forced orbit around LV-426: rockets firing continually, nose pointed down. Telescopes, sensors and antennae sprout once more from its hull. INT. MAGELLAN - BRIDGE Everyone’s here. Janek and his crew seated at control stations. Holloway and Watts standing on the foredeck. Vickers and DAVID. Ravel and Chance. LV-426 fills the window: a gray orb of mist. The ground invisible beneath the clouds. Sporadic lightning flickers. HOLLOWAY Start with passive systems. We’re uninvited guests. Let’s be quiet. That thought sends a nervous shiver through the others. Janek nods at Glass and Brick. They study their instruments. BRICK A lot of electromag, all random. That’s lightning. Going to bugger up our scans. HOLLOWAY Go active. Mapping radar. ___________________________________________________________________________ Clearly by this early draft they were caling the PROMETHEUS ship 'MAGELLAN'! And they were refering to the world they are going to as LV-426. And the draft of the script I have read these excerpts from is called:"ALIEN ENGINEERS" (a.k.a: "PROMETHEUS") I can assure you I cut and pasted the text as I read it in this version of the script. Also note how they talk of: "Seven planets. Two hot rocks, two gas giants, three snowballs. Nothing Earthlike." Two Gas Giants. Maybe the LV-426 designation resides with that Gas Giant Primary body and not this one (LV-223). Perhaps also, the producers later felt that this was too predictable being 'confirmed' as LV-426 so soon in the franchise when they clearly have alot more convoluted, twisting story-telling to explore before they wind-up and reveal the designation of a planet being finally refered to as LV-426 within the story cannon. Its possible that somewhere a 're-classification' occurs but as was quite rightly pointed out LV-426 in ALIEN has three moons orbiting around it where as the so-called:LV-223 planetary system has only two. I'm thinking that within the Zeta 2 Reticuli system there is in fact two gas giant primaries such as there is in our system with regards to Jupiter and Saturn (plus a few more) so the films simply have not yet got to LV-426 yet but hopefully soon will do (The PROMETHEUS films I mean!)