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MemberOvomorphOct-15-2012 11:15 PMI found this video at YouTube pretty interesting.
PROMETHEUS 2 - PARADiSE
http://youtu.be/gcb-R7Khf84
I found this info about Hephaestus with a little Googling
Hephaestus was the Greek god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans, sculptors, metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes. Hephaestus' Roman equivalent was Vulcan. In Greek mythology, Hephaestus was the son of Zeus and Hera, the King and Queen of the Gods.
Hephaestus also built automatons of metal to work for him. This included tripods that walked to and from Mount Olympus. He gave to the blinded Orion his apprentice Cedalion as a guide. Prometheus stole the fire that he gave to man from Hephaestus's forge. Hephaestus also created the gift that the gods gave to man, the woman Pandora and her pithos. Being a skilled blacksmith, Hephaestus created all the thrones in the Palace of Olympus.
Hephaestus helped to create the first woman, with the assistance of other gods, after Zeus had ordered that there be a new kind of human. Zeus plotted against Prometheus because he and his race of mortals had only included one gender, which was male, and so Hephaestus formed the first woman from clay. Her name was Pandora (all gifts) and from a supernatural jar, she released the evils of the world on mankind.
What I found so interesting about this is the Norse equvalent of Hephaestus. In Norse mythology, Weyland the Smith was a lame bronzeworker.
Weyland! Get it? There are similarities between Weyland and the engineers. They created us and Weyland created the robots. Norse god, Iceland, Noomi Rapace, engineers that look Norse, etc...
The origin of the jockey creature was not explored in the film, but Scott later theorized that it might have been the ship's pilot, and that the ship might have been a weapons carrier capable of dropping Alien eggs onto a planet so that the Aliens could use the local lifeforms as hosts. The engineers are weapons makers. Remember that Janek said the place was a military base, and that the engineers made something they shouldn't.
There are similar characters in other ancient stories. In the Bible there is Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron. And in the I Enoch there is Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them.
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Throcken
MemberOvomorphOct-16-2012 2:42 AMI'm not sure if this is supposed to have any deeper meaning to it all, but it's actually a pretty interesting detail! Good job! :D

firebuilder
MemberOvomorphOct-16-2012 5:26 AMIf there is a link to this in the script, it would explain a few things. For one, we see no female Engineers. As a matter of fact, the only Engineer related object that remotely expresses feminity is the xenomorph-alter (and the obvious implications are menacing). Purhapes the ovum shaped chrystal (green stone) mounted in the alter is supposed to represent Pandora's supernatural box.

firebuilder
MemberOvomorphOct-16-2012 5:26 AMIf there is a link to this in the script, it would explain a few things. For one, we see no female Engineers. As a matter of fact, the only Engineer related object that remotely expresses feminity is the xenomorph-alter (and the obvious implications are menacing). Purhapes the ovum shaped chrystal (green stone) mounted in the alter is supposed to represent Pandora's supernatural box.

firebuilder
MemberOvomorphOct-16-2012 5:30 AMLikewise, the look on the living Engineers face is close to surprise and/or confusion when he spots our female lead among the welcoming party.

BigDave
MemberDeaconOct-16-2012 8:35 AMWell i think the connection could be that the Gods created a race of Humanoids who had no females, and latter that females was created from these Humanoids.
The Sumerian Annunnaki tale tells of how Enki created mankind, and the process was made by sacrificing one of their owns blood mixed with clay to then create Mankind.
A lot of the old religions have many ties with each other the newer Abrahamic Religons differ slightly as they claim that there was ONE GOD who created everything within 6 DAYS.
While we can tie in some aspects of the Bible with Prometheus, if we look at the other older ancient cultures then they tie in better with Prometheus.
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Promitius
MemberOvomorphOct-16-2012 11:58 PM
They seem rather Nazi like and they are tall and fair skinned. Usually blue eyes and blond hair are associated with the Nordic type, but they don't have any hair and they appear to be dark eyed. Perhaps referring to them as Nordic is a stretch, but they don't look Italian or Spanish. Nordicism (also "Nordic theory") is an ideology of racial supremacy that claims that a Nordic race, within the greater Caucasian race, constituted a master race (from Wikipedia). The engineers are supposed to be a superior race I guess. That's why I call them Nazi like.
I like the video -
Prometheus Actually Explained (With Real Answers)
http://youtu.be/GpEx7pdp2-Q
Those guys seem to have some contacts and may be on the right track. In it they say Ridley refers to the engineers as "dark angels." That along with the label they're giving the giving the project "Paradise," tends to make me think they may want to take sort of a Judeo-Christian story line, like in the book of First Enoch.

Cerulean Blue
MemberFacehuggerOct-17-2012 11:58 AMThe Engineer's have the distinguishing trait of the Greco-Roman nose bridge!
The making of Promethueus disc said they were reminiscent of Michaelangelo's David. Big, but not over-developed.
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