engineer's chasing immortality?

richard wadham
MemberOvomorphOctober 18, 20122829 Views36 RepliesEggs on derelict cocooned engineers?
October 18, 2012
That is a very good question. Yes Ridley cut the "cocoon" scene out but still, it may be the answer were are looking for, of how the eggs got there and where the all the Engineers went.
The original, deleted scene from Alien:[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS5MtzrW1vU]Alien deleted scene: The Cocoon Sequence [/url]
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October 18, 2012
Actually, you might be right!
There is a scene in alien where the creature morphs one of the crewmembers in to an egg.
funky, and delicius.
ALIENS THINK HUMANS ARE ALIENS
October 18, 2012
I mean.. if there is a war going between a vary of engineers.. Who is to say some engineers wouldn't sacrifice themselves for the war? Regardless ... I couldn't help but think how those leathery eggs look reminiscent of the engineer skin .. Its just an idea that's been swimming around my head... thanks for the positive feedback
October 19, 2012
I tought it was silly at first, but then i realized that original alien script with the eggmorphing scene. and actually, ridley said once that he always saw the derelict in alien as a bomber of sorts.
your idea of engineers sacrificing themselfs for a higher cuase gooes hand in hand with the opening scene in prometheus for example.
the war idea is good aswell(hence the so called "bomber" derelict). Their entire culture seems to circle around sacrifice and death, and life, on a scientific level. control of the universe and all living things within it.
ALIENS THINK HUMANS ARE ALIENS
October 19, 2012
There are so many possibilities that we may never find out.
I would assume the Engineers are near immortal, by that they have long life spans, but can be killed.
Was they once more mortal but through advances they managed to prolong their lives or have they always been beings who have long life spans, who knows.
As far as the Xeno and that Scene, we dont know yet what the purpose and link of the Xeno and Engineers and their Tech are. It could be....
1) That Xenos and Engineers Bio Tech and Bio Ships are created by the Engineers via a advancement in their Technology.
2) That the Engineers stole that Tech above from some other Race.
3) That the Engineers Tech comes from the Xeno, and its experiments with the Xeno that lead to all their Bio Tech.
4) That the Xeno was a produce of their Bio Tech.
So does the Xeno come from Engineers, or Engineers Tech from the Xeno, or do both come from the same kind of tech that they either invented or stolen? We just dont have the answers right now and their is so many possibilities.
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October 19, 2012
@BigDave
whatever the case may be, its hard to think that the so called xeno was some kind of mistake. it was engineered or harvest.
In alien all the eggs lays in perfect lines underneath a layer of laser and mist.
Im voting for Richard wadhams idea, morphed engineers, i think its cool.
But like you say, there is a million possibileties.
Lets hope for something great.
ALIENS THINK HUMANS ARE ALIENS
October 19, 2012
Try this on for size
[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/10776]What happened to the SJ[/url]
October 19, 2012
I agree ... A million possibilities!! I'm just trying to keep the fire going.. no pun intended ;) Until we get the finished product we won't know...but that's apart of the excitement I suppose..
October 19, 2012
I love this idea!!!
So cocooned engineer/facehugger + human = our good ole Giger Alien!
Magic! :-)
I was thinking that there could be eggs rather than urns in some of the other temples on LV223?
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
October 19, 2012
SJ create Engineers to manage infernal bio labs. Engineers capture fauna from across universe for study, including creature in mural, template for Xeno. Use SJ tech Black Goo to Weaponize DNA. Produce sizable litter of humans ( on LV223 ) to create eggs. Eggs virtually uncontrollable, they begin to refine process into chemical bombs. Other Engineers galavant around galaxy in a stolen vehicle seeding planets in their own image. SJ get hip, locate the giant vessel, say to guys on LV223: " hey we have a use for those unstable eggs, we'll take them off your hands." secretly intending to deliver them to the saucer. Engineers on LV223 get hip, execute diabolical interstellar double cross. Trap the SJ pilots, load the eggs, reprogram Juggernauts for SJ Homeworld. Impregnate the SJ pilots, the Xenos will fertilize the eggs aboard the Juggernauts to produce SJ adapted facehuggers, the Trilobites. But it all goes wrong.
October 19, 2012
@Major Noob~ sounds totally logical, nice post!
Yeah ALWAYS, & especially when you add humanz into the equation!!! LOL
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
October 19, 2012
The Zeno's are workers..surviviors..exterminators..at the direction of the Space Jockey..
SJ's are at the direction of the Engineers....something that went terribly wrong in 'Alien'
Too many eggs in 'Alien' to be Engineers...or even Space Jockeys..
That's what I choose to believe...
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
October 19, 2012
I'm not sure if I agree with SJ creating engineers... It sort of takes away the power of the engineers.. I just feel engineers and jockeys are one and the same.. fundamental question though.. What is the possibility of their being some other monstrous creature{s} on the home planet? Reason for war? They were obviously prepping for something big... in which probably were headed back to earth to gather some humans for impregnating .. but yea.. the nature of the beast... virtually impossible to cage.. Hopefully we can atleast agree that there is an organic xenomorph that the engineers worship
October 19, 2012
I sure would not want to be immortal. Imagine having to pay taxes from here to eternity. I dont think so.
October 19, 2012
RW- I like the SJ idea because then we still get to have the huge bizarre being in Alien as is, terrible, incomprehensible, sinister. No dilution of power for the Engineers, much like David they are superior and for the SJ ultimately willful and unpredictable. They want to reproduce, and so they develop and nurture humans. Their intent was to give us another upgrade, but they were interrupted by the disaster on LV223. We were not meant to ever actually reach the planet ourselves, hence the last Engineer's reaction.
This is just me having fun with the mysteries of Alien and Prometheus, trying to piece together a storyline for the SJ on LV426. And yes, I envision the Homeworld as a sort of bio disaster ground zero, as only one of the many Juggernauts the Engineers sabotaged was disabled. There, not only was there an outbreak of Xenos, but many other biological atrocities as well, because the Engineers also sent a load of ampules. Sort of a test run, on their makers. There are survivors, of course, to greet Shaw and David, and show them around.
October 19, 2012
Rubirosa- there are a series of novels by deceased author Kage Baker that explore fully the horrors of immortality, the story spanning 60,000 years. The beings are engineered agents for a huge corporation which has a 900 year old facility called Options Research soley devoted to figuring out how to destroy them, which proves to be impossible.