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MemberOvomorphOct-23-2012 2:24 PMi know its hard to make super metroid a movie but maybe you dont have to. maybe you could just incorporate a combat energy suit in prometheus 2 and we could just tell ourselves this is how samus aran tured into an alien bounty hunter because the end of prometheus basically turns shaw into an alien bounty hunter and since the engineers are so strong this could make it an exciting even match up. but prometheus 2 needs characters. its very difficult to make a single character movie. we need more character interactions dramatic plot and purpose. where could other characters come from and how could we make it a 2 hour movie and incorporate futuristic space combat? im tired of seeing woman running scared then barley beating these things
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Mala'kak
MemberOvomorphOct-23-2012 3:17 PMJude Law, and Ben Foster as a sort of pair of space detectives who defected from Weyland, working with a Yutani crew to uncover what just transpired during the King's covert mission-- recapping and offering Yutani's perspective on what just happened.. trying to piece together the puzzle in Paradise and offering more theories and possible answers.
Yutani is the only thing stopping Weyland corp from being more like an Emperor of the Earth and all her colonies.
Weyland is a terrible king who does unethical things to his servants.
Weyland brings the quiet eye scrutiny upon himself by being so vague about what he intended to do.
What if the Prometheus project wasn't even authorized and that's why it had to be a secret corporate run with no real assistance from Earth's true military at this point?
The timeline says colonial marines are around and the designation of Prometheus is USCSS, but Prometheus was obviously not a war ship.
Why keep Prometheus so secret? You'd think Weyland would tell someone back on Earth about what he was up to and that someone in the company would know something about what happened. Plus we have Shaw's transmission, so ppl could know Shaw's alive.
BUt what if this is only partially the case because Weyland's an evil king and he mistreats his subjects and is breaking laws from Yutani's perpective-- who've changed their image dramatically since the David 8 lawsuit and go mainly into security-- something Weyland is lacking, even if u look at the number of David's deployed for security puposes. Yutani sometimes acts as a rival, however they're the other power controlling half the world that the early leaked synopses were talking about..
In this series they're more like internal affairs at this point or the only quasi-police force with any authority to try to police the king and the corporation that runs most of the world. They were quietly spying on the King (almost the leader of humanity) and may have access to all mission transmissions because of the expertise in the fields of communication and spying as well.
Why does it say "router China" in the Blu ray background?
Yutani has been secretly monitoring the mission and may attempt to rescue Shaw because they don't like the fact Weyland beat them and the world out there; and they did it without any regard for human life or national protocols. Yutani is the "good" company right now, but it will be absorbed by Weyland to become the Weyland-Yutani empire after Yutani sets its sights on the Bioweapon as well.
During the film only David and Shaw know that LV-223 is actually housing bioweapons and not immortality.
Weyland corp, if they know anything, may still think that Weyland was only after eternal life.
That's the thing.... Weyland corp didn't want the bio-weapon yet, only David knew-- Weyland was only after immortality in this part of the story.
So where does the obsession with acquiring the bio-weapon come from?
Somehow someone at the company knows that they did not find immortality, but instead a form of the bioweapon.
Yutani may also now know if they've been quietly monitoring things.
I'm really expecting to see some corporate politics and Engineer/Elder politics in the next film.

Cerulean Blue
MemberFacehuggerOct-23-2012 3:27 PMI guess we will start seeing political advertisements from Weyland Industries, as well as The Engineer Elders?
I loathe election years!

Mala'kak
MemberOvomorphOct-23-2012 3:27 PMShaw running around in a Samus-like suit would be super badass though.. I honestly have no clue what may happen to Shaw but I think big things have been planned for David and the Engineers. David is the closest thing to a prince now that the Weyland lineage that headed the company has been severed. But yeah I think we need at least a few more human characters too.
I really think Paradise will be our official introduction to Yutani corp and the Elders. Setting up a whole slew of competition and rebellion/war between kingdoms/multiple factions themes; also a disintegration/formation of Empires theme. Morphing the kingdoms towards an Empire by allowing both companies to disintegrate... and allowing the influence of the glupe/David to re-combine their elements and broken down remnants to re-create the desigin of the original company, morphing them into the hybrid multinational corp-- the Weyland-Yutani empire and all her colonies.
"Sometimes to create one must first destroy" may apply to the companies as well...
Before we see the Weyland-Yutani merger we may have to see the complete breakdown of both kingdoms after a brilliant yet chaotic leader is dethroned, and the people once again get to lead themselves for a short while.
Before we become almost slaves and puppets to the androids who may very well come to secretly rule the company after David's manipulations... tying into the idea in Alien 3 that the man claiming to be a creator of bishop and a head/face of the company is not actually a leader...
In the special edition he's not even human or the real creator of Bishop, although he's an android in that one version instead of a human servant... Another deceitful member of what we know to be the ruling family.. Closest thing to a son.
The Weyland lineage is dead in the later movies... it's been recreated out of the elements he left behind and his legacy-- the company name lives on partially. the human Bishop in Alien 3 was only using his status as creator and bishop's image to portray himself as a king to Ripley... to pretend he had authority and they were gonna help her when really we know they still wanted the bio-weapon. He wasn't a head of the company.
Most of the Weylands in the AVP games are androids pretending to be Weyland now, but we won't ever need to see a Weyland again. The androids aren't only pretending to be human in the later movies. They could actually secretly be ruling the company and pretending humans are still running it... like what happened with Prometheus. Weyland thought he was in charge but really it was David, and it was David who allowed him to die, didn't reinforce Shaw's warning with his knowledge. They've been pretending they weren't in charge of everything, using Bishop's image to try to fool Ripley into believing the creator of the Bishop model had any power. Using that association with a past image of authority. Portraying things and themselves a certain way.
At some point the Davids will not only kill their parents. They will dethrone and replace them in the hierarchy becoming the new secret kings of humanity... This is what the Engineers may have tried to do to their "Elders".
Ash was still serving the heads of the company, but the heads of the company are closer to people like Burke who may know a little about why they want the bio-weapon-- unlike the board members we see at the beginning of Aliens.
I think Paradise will start with the current board members who are chaotically fighting over who will head the company now that Vickers and Weyland are gone... and this will start it off similarly to Aliens before it takes a radical departure.
The androids are so much more tied into this than we're currently thinking.
They share a number of similarities with the Engineers.
In later movies they're made in the image of humans to pretend to be human and remain faithful servants who can manipulate their mission and human subjects. David was made in the image of Weyland, though he does not look like him... he's made in Weyland's ideal self-image...
David's more human than most androids, or is becoming that way, and amplifies some of the evil traits that his father gave him. He may be able to be good eventually, but he's becoming like the father he hates. Becoming even more of a chaotic king than his father was, manipulating even more than his father. Becoming too human, or "too close" as David and Holloway both worried.
More evil than his evil human father for a time.. And more than the future king... The future Emperor... One that is nearly immortal as Weyland says.
So like an Emperor he doesn't give up his reign for a long time...
It's like how a multinational corporation has the ability to keep regrowing and replacing the fake heads of the company, in a way similar to how the Hammerpede regrows its head after decapitated (a clue towards the true immortal beings of the story, the new and improved version of the Alien genetics).
David is the head that gets detached from the rest of the body of the company/kingdom and goes on to live. Through his head he will morph, alter and breakdown the existing structure within the company. Starting with the top. Which is why Fifields head is more mutated and replaced first.
It's about dethroning the king/head of a culture as the creator/king/leader is killed, stealing power... and moving up the ladder in the overall hierarchy, Weyland's premature belief "we are the gods now".
Androids will become the new human rulers now that the king/false god is dead... The Engineers were "mortal after all" and David's the closest thing to a god/god-king in the story so far (except maybe the Alien genetics since the regen factor seems to be amped up, and it may be able to reanimate dead cells).
When Shaw asks David what he'll do when Weyland dies he says he imagines he'd be free. Although as we know David is all about experimenting and controlling things. Sticking his hands in things, pushing buttons and operating the controls. He may be free to go forward with his plans now that the king has been killed and the old order is slowly disintegrating. Leaving the board members in an even more chaotic state that is easier to deceive and manipulate.
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