Two Shaws?

@ Javablue... The movie is riddled with continuity errors, especially in the very same scene you mention... - One second Shaw is preparing herself, holding an axe, in the next instance the axe is gone. - The Engineer storms the life pod unscathed and despite receiving no damage from Shaw or the Trilobite has half his face mysteriously burnt. What do expect from a film that went through so many changes, most of them the wrong ones, when in post production.

agreed. two shaws sounds like it would be an error too haha

@snorkelbottom So this is also a continuity error: [i][/i] [i]When Shaw, carrying Conan the Barbarian’s axe she found in the sock draw, looks into the medpod room, she sees the swinging medpod and lots of blood (as we would expect). However, later (as Shaw is lying outside displaying her ring for nobody) when we see the same room over squiddo’s shoulder, there is no swinging medpod or any blood. There is what seems like a cryo and a few boxes. In fact, it doesn’t even appear to be the medpod room.[/i] That's a lot of errors for basically one scene and the climax to boot. So why do people think it's such a good movie? Judging by this site it must be something to do with the black goo. @cuponator3000 [i]agreed. two shaws sounds like it would be an error too haha[/i] As I said, Ridley has badly overestimated his audience.

Of course there aren't two Shaws. People like Prometheus because of the many things that make it great, and have an ability to see a bigger picture than the relatively small number of continuity errors that it contains. I don't believe there is a mainstream blockbuster in existence that doesn't have the odd continuity error. Knock yourself out - spend a few years trawling the content of moviemistakes.com: Prometheus (16 'mistakes'); 2001 A Space Oddysey (44); Alien (49); The Godfather (56). Need I go on? By the way, I've no idea why people get the idea that the Engineeer stormed the lifeboat unscathed. When he forces the airlock open it is very very apparent that the left side of his face is badly burned. If Ridley can be bothered, he may well re-visit the movie and make a few changes, like he did with Blade Runner.

I'm not saying they're mistakes - it's the people supposedly defending Prometheus who own the mistake mantra. This thread is a perfect example. I'm saying that the no-ring/ring scenario was done by Ridley on purpose and not only that, he worked hard to make sure the audience see it. When she first gets on the pod, we get a couple of medium shots of her left hand, including a good side-on with fingers spread wide - a look! no ring shot. And when she breaks free of the fight, Ridley goes into the frames with his digital paintbrush and lights up the ring. And then, of course, she ends up lying on the ground outside with her ringed hand on her chest - clear as day. So it is Ridley who is opening up the possibility of two Shaws. As I said, Ridley has overestimated his audience. Perhaps the film should have a narrator to point out to people what's happening. To your second paragraph - people spend too much time looking at deleted scenes and not at the movie. The jock's injuries would have been digitalled in post-production. Ridley has said no directors cut. I'd say he would be very happy how things have gone.

What's more likely? Scenes that were filmed over many days where - on one day - the actress happened not to be wearing a ring? Or a contrived account of a doppleganger that frankly makes no sense to the telling of the story? Are we also supposed to imagine that the vodka bottle magically jumped up itself onto the bar, or perhaps more likely is the result of editing out a scene? There's attention to detail and there's attention to detail. I imagine that Ridley had a few more things to think about on the day than whether the ring was there or not.

Mate, are you a plant? As I said before, it's fanboys like you who keep strutting out the mistakes in lieu of thinking and holding Ridley up as a complete amateur. Big Scene 1: Shaw has given up, she's in tears. But she finds Holloway's ring. Big close up of her putting it on. It gives her immediate strength to keep going. Big Scene 2: Shaw has just escaped squiddo. She's on her back crying and we get a medium close-up of her with her left hand on her chest. There's the ring. She's not wearing her gloves in the alien environment because the ring has to be seen. The ring is important. And it's also important that she's not wearing it when she scrambles aboard the escape pod. But no, according to you, Ridley, the master of mise en scene, forgot about this vital motif as did the actress, the continuity supervisor and several others. Bullshit. It's a science fiction - replicants, matrixes, time dimensions, dream implants - the list goes on. Washing dirty hands and hanging the washing out - the level of thinking your capable of - aren't that popular. And two Shaws explain the vodka bottle and a lot more. We'll probably see that scene in the sequel. You need to wean yourself off crap movies like The Transformers.

The movie is what it is. You can't say that RS is master movie maker and then say the ring situation is an accident. The showing of the empty hand while Shaw is laying on the moon's surface without the needed gloves is an example of a choice that Ridley made or decided to let the scene play out if it was accident. In any case it was not an accidental showing. As far as the two Shaws this is a curious question, something I had not considered I would say it is a possibility. It is not what we think . It is up to RS when he want to show us a larger picture. A larger question than the title of this thread are there other elements relating to the Prometheus that we have not been shown. *Duplicate, additional crew members. *Communications with Earth of Weyland Corp. ...are some examples I would like to know more about. Let's face it: posters just don't know as much about our storyline as it's creators. Until they want to say or show us..anything can be said here and is possible. Now about the real fuction of the pyramids...

Many people would say that RS is a master of his craft. At the same time mistakes can and do very often happen in movie-making. His movies feature many mistakes that – in the grand scheme of things – are completely trivial. There's no contradiction there. The gloves are not 'needed' to lay on the moon's surface: they have no pressure seal. Shaw simply removed the gloves to play around with the lifeboat's controls when she got on board. That's what she did. That's what the movie showed. If you know anything about movie making, you'll know that scenes are often filmed over many days, weeks or months and that continuity errors can and do happen. Even when – and sometimes because – many people are in the loop. If anyone dreams for one second that Ridley is 'trying' to tell you that – for some bizarre and illogical reason – there is a pair of dopplegangers running around, I would suggest that lithium tablets may be in order.

So many trivial, uninteresting and unimportant things happening in this movie - dirty hands, robot checking mental health, captain changing his mind within nanoseconds, plus all the other boring excuses you've come up with. There is little doubt Ridley wanted us to see the ring - missing and being worn. You stick to your "just another mistake" excuses. [i]When Shaw, carrying Conan the Barbarian’s axe she found in the sock draw, looks into the medpod room, she sees the swinging medpod and lots of blood (as we would expect). However, later (as Shaw is lying outside displaying her ring for nobody) when we see the same room over squiddo’s shoulder, there is no swinging medpod or any blood. There is what seems like a cryo and a few boxes. In fact, it doesn’t even appear to be the medpod room.[/i] So that the room Shaw sees through the small window -medpod, blood, etc - compared to supposedly same room seen behind sqiddo - no medpod, no blood, etc - is just another mistake a mistake? Not to mention the disappearing axe and the bottles. That's a lot of mistakes in the movies climatic scene. Here's some more: [i]When Shaw is at the wash basin finding Holloway’s ring after her encounter with Weyland, we see clothes hanging on the light knobs on the wall, a wooden object (perhaps to hang towels) with plastic containers and towels on it behind and to the left of Shaw, and outside the room is a desk, chair and other objects. Yet when Janek enters supposedly moments later, all of that is gone and the kitchen objects on the left appeared to have changed.[/i] What can explain this? [i]When Shaw crawls out of the medpod she (and what she is wearing) is covered in blood. Yet in the next few shots there seems to be little or no blood – especially on the white “bikini” top she is wearing.[/i] What has happened? What about all Holloway's mistakes in his presentation? Bad scriptwriting I suppose? I guess you got the unfathomable movie you wanted. But, then again, I think the toddlers swimming pool would be unfathomable for you.

javablue im no moderator and im sure zzplural can stand up for him/herself but do you have to be so rude it puts me off debating anything with you which is the whole point of a forum its no good if you turn things into a slagging match

Javablue There are not two Shaw's in Prometheus, just the one. Why, how would there be another. A synthetic like David - why would Weyland make a Synthetic of Shaw, a twin sister - that was never mentioned in the entire movie. The reason for the missing ring is simply a continuity error, and nothing more, which most likely occured due to pressing deadlines - the lifepod scene was one of the last scenes shot. Ridley Scotts films are usally riddled with continuity errors like this. The irony is if it was another director members of this site would burn the director for blasphemy, but because its Ridley they let him off - bottom line Ridley is no genius and is definetly no Sci Fi god. James Cameron has made more Sci Fi movies than Ridley, his last of which is the no 1 grossing film ever. Peeps need to stop over analysing to the point of ridicule, but they also need to stop believing the sun shines out of Ridleys rear, He's a good director, nothing more. ...cue the backlash...