Good Idea Who Barnett Might Play in Prometheus Sequel

Interesting hunch, however Barnett being a young Burke would push Prom2 between Alien and Aliens. Aliens is set 57 years later from Alien, so it would depend on the timeline ultimately.

There will be no Burke. No Burke. No. Burke.

Oh, this is PERFECT, I like the way you think. And I say with while biting my cheek with my own inner mouth parts. As always suspected, Prometheus is a reboot in a parallel Alien(s) world. There'll be Egg Queens, there'll be Space Marines. The (purity of the original Xeno/Space Jockey is no more and the) franchise has just evolved. :)

Major, you sound like you know something the rest of us don't. Why no Burke character in P2?

David- the only privileged information I have is my own aversion to Burke. No Burke. On topic, my hope is that Rik is the mature Deacon. All joking aside, I didn't give these things much thought until Prometheus, and then my personal canon shifted. It is now Alien, and Prometheus. I don't hate the other films, this is just what works for me. No Burke. Burke don't work. That said, I could see him in that role. Just hope I don't.

I would be dissapointed if it was Burke. Maybe he could be the last Engineer alive who hasn't had the use of the biomech suit,because the Engineers planet has been ravaged,therefore is smaller and weaker. But that would be interesting if he was the deacon, dont know about talking, but it would've inherited allsorts from Shaw,Holloway,Trilobite and the Engineer.

I have read it suggested that he might be Weyland's dead son - that David was modelled after.

David and Rik do bear a resemblance to each other. Still think it will be a corporate suit, however. The next film will spend more time on the topic of terraforming, and you couldn't devote a film to that topic without making a Weyland exec the front focus. Hence, the need for Barrit. Making Barritt the adult Deacon would change the physical mythology of the films too much. Aliens take on their hosts forms, but they don't evolve into humans. That's stretching it, I think.

Who knows as this Movie could follow a Human Crew on another Ship, as sure Yutani does have to come into the equation... And no doubt Weyland Industries would want to know what became of the Prometheus Mission. But then that would lend far to much into a Prequel to Alien, and maybe Ridley wants to explore the Engineers more. In this case the Character could be a Engineer, or creator of the Engineers or even a creation by the Engineers, i mean are we the only Humanoid race these Engineers had seeded? Or again he could be used in flash backs, be that Shaws past and dreams or even the Engineer Elders telling a story about the creation of Mankind.

He could be Vickers and the Deacons lovechild haha

That is an interesting idea David. Personally, I don't think Ridley Scott will revisit anything to do with ALIENS. His universe consists of ALIEN & Prometheus. Everything in between was created by different directors. Of course Fox could have other ideas, but I don't see any point in Ridley returning to the ALIEN/PROMETHEUS Universe unless it continues his vision! Hence no Carter Burke & NO QUEEN!! :-D

& much as I love them.......NO PREDATORS either!!! :-D

If that's the case, and Ridley refuses to depart from his vision, then we can expect to see a film that, in tone, plot, and theme at least, comes closer to "Blade Runner" than anything else. I suspect that he will create an intergalactic "heart of darkness" with inquisitors Shaw and David seeking answers to the most profound questions of the meaning of life from Kurz type figure, ugly and mysterious, civilized yet incredibly brutal. Such an "atmospheric" mood with heavy introspection could up the boredom factor for the casual fan and deliver the film a box office kiss of death.

[size=200][b]I think he will play Elisabeth Shaws Dad. He looks a bit like Patrick Wilson. [/b][/size]

I really don't think he will play her dad. The first film already showed us what her father looked like when she was a child, so I wouldn't see the point in replacing Patrick Wilson's profile unless they will show us her father when she was an infant, or before she was born. And frankly I'm not convinced that her father's backstory is all that important to begin with. Yes, I understand it establishes the "what you choose to believe" motif of the film, but delving further into his past doesn't enhance the motif any. My hunch is that Barnett will play a Weyland "corporate slimeball" who is secretly monitoring everything that happens to Shaw and David and will ultimately be the one who sends the fake distress signal to the commercial ship Nostromo that lures Ripley and her crew to land on LV 426.

Hi there Ridley said paradise is more like hell then paradise. So maybe rik could be the higher authority : the one who created the engineers or perhaps one of the elders . As Shaw asked : who created them. Interesting question . The possibilities are virtually endless. I agree that aliens and prometheus does it for me also . Hope Ridley continues his vision. As svanya noted when watch some of the extras on the blu ray you can see he made prometheus and it came from the heart. Live long and prosper . Peasce !!!! Nice to hear from you again bigdave.

All this is very interesting and I'm dying to know news of his role in the sequel. I think that could be related to the engineers, but how? It could be an emissary to try to benefit mankind or even a creator as some of you have said. Anyway there is still the possibility that it's someone related to companies or a friend brother or student of Shaw. BTW @Big Dave, I'm glad to hear from you after so long also.

Went directly to the source and asked Rik on Twitter about the casting rumors. Not surprisingly, I haven't heard anything back from him:) He talks a lot about his photo shoots and what he ate for breakfast, but remains unforthcoming on his role in Prometheus. Since Ridley seems to be taking his cues from 14-th century poets (One of Dante's books is named Paradiso after all), it wouldn't surprise me if Barnett played Virgil type figure who serves as Shaw tour guide through the nine layers of the engineers' hellish paradise, the ninth layer being, of course, the creator's layer, where Shaw may or may not find answers to the questions she seeks. Unless Barnett spills the beans to me on Twitter, I guess we'll just remain in wait and see mode. Big Dave

Well Ridley may have given us clues as he did with Prometheus... With Prometheus he claimed... That Shaw and Holloway found clues to what they believed to be their creators and god, but what they found certainly where not gods. With Paradise he gave similar hint in which he says... That Shaw and David are off to the Home world we call Paradise but what they find will be far from Paradise, and also that Shaw would be foolish to trust David, but she has no choice. This to me could hint that David may try and play nice with Shaw, and that his creator is gone (Weyland) so he is free and will now Help Shaw find answers to Mankind's creation.... But the whole time David will have his own sinister Motive and will unleash Hell... While i dont like the idea..... who knows if the movie franchise could go the whole Time Travel route and have David play a role in creation of the Xeno (hybrid created from the Goo) and unleash it upon the Engineer Home world thus wipe them all out and then he may want to do the same on Earth, but Shaw Ultimately stops him?

Love the idea, but a hybrid has already been loosed upon the world, the Deacon Alien on LV 226, lest we forget. How would you tie that alien to the hybrids David would manufacture while on the Engineer Home World? That's a tricky plot hurdle.

Not really, we already know that the Urns contain Xeno DNA carrying Goo, and what ever it comes into contact with would create a Hybrid. I think the more tricky part as far as franchise goes is what becomes of the Deacon? Surely the Weyland suits and Yutani would have known about Prometheus mission, and they would be wondering what went wrong We do not know what kind of Logs and Messages David or even Vickers may have been making and sending back to Earth or other Weyland Colonies? And any investigating missions would stumble at some point upon Shaws SOS Message warning that their is nothing but Death here. Would the suits take notice of such a warning? You can bet they would want to find out why the place is full of death. If someone found a Organism like the Thing in Antartic and they wiped it out or so they thought and sent a SOS about to stay away before they say blew themselves up, if the Goverments found out about the Organism outbreak would they all go.. you know what, lets secure this place so no one ever goes there or lets nuke the place to kingdom come... Nope some will think they could obtain and safely test and research the Organism despite the risks and previous outbreak. So lets say Prometheus mission was documented that they found some substance Bio Weapon that contains a substance that can change Organisms into Hybrid Killing Machines, would companies like Weyland and Yutani think, well we cant have that lets blow LV 226 to kingdom come... Nope they would aim to obtain a specimen to test. Thinking that they would be able to contain any threat it would pose.

Yeah, that's the point I was making in my previous post. What do you do with the Deacon if David creates a new Alien while en route to the engineer's home world? My knee-jerk response is to say don't have David create a new alien. We've already invested in the outcome of the Deacon, so why detract from our investment with another alien creation. Secondly, do we really believe that David wants to exterminate the human race? I don't think so. He's an android. He's programed to carry out activities that some humans might find "unethical," but because he lacks programing that would allow him to feel human emotions, he can never act on a motive of vengeance since vengeance is tied to the emotion of hatred.

Well i think the Deacon was a plot device to somehow show a connection between the Engineers and the Xeno via the Bio Weapon they was working on at the outpost on LV223. But its done in a way that leaves the door open to explore the Deacon, or they could ignore it. As far as David goes i think in many parts of the movie it shows that David can perform tasks on his own, and act alone with his own Agenda i think the Androids are flawed, just as Ash is in Alien and Bishop does say that previous models where a bit twitchy. David seemed to be performing and carrying out a Agenda for Weyland, yet he said to Shaw doesnt everyone want their parents dead. With Weyland gone you have to ask who does David serve, and Ridley did hint that Shaw would be foolish to put his head back on as he cant be trusted, but she has no choice as otherwise she would been stuck on LV223.

I think it's a good guess that it's a young Burke.

Sorry I meant prometheus and alien DC also (not aliens)

Me too! I like the way you think. No wonder they call you "Visionary Alpha" Had a chance to digest what Big Dave had to say. He makes a really compelling argument and I think he's brought me over to his side on the flawed nature of androids. Still, as "flawed" as they are, I don't think their MO is the extermination of the human race. And here's why...Ash wigged out on Ripley, not because he hated her persay, but because she got between him and the company's directive to bring a specimen back to the Weyland Laboratories at all costs. Which is what Ash reveals--or at least his chopped off head does--after Ripley dislodges it from his body and then interrogates him. Had he hated her--and all of us for that matter--he would have spent his final minutes alive telling her how much he despised the human race. Instead, he reveals the company's secret directive to "deliver a specimen to the lab...crew expendable." A company man to the end, basically. David kills in the exact same fashion as Ash. Nothing is done as part of an agenda to topple human beings from the top of the evolutionary perch. David's unethical behavior comes from the programing he received from Weyland Industries which disabled his conscience for the purpose of carrying out tasks that most humans would find "unethical." Notice when he kills Charlie. He poisons him only after Weyland has given him the order to infect a human with Alien DNA, not before. And prior to that moment, Charlie has provided David with many reasons to want to kill Charlie for the insults he has paid him regarding the fact that he is an android. In fact, if you watch the film closely, the exact moment David poisons Charlie's drink is when Charlie tells him he would do "anything and everything" to know the truth. The last exchange before hearing David tap the black goo into Charlie's glass is hardly an insult directed at David. It is an echo of David's own programming that compels him to sidestep all ethical considerations in achieving the company's truth agenda. Had David had his own agenda--an agenda that included the downfall of the human race--we would have seen him act on it much earlier in the film. For example, had he really wanted his "parents dead," he could have killed Weyland in his sleep while in stasis in the cryotube. For that matter, he could have offed the whole blood lot of them and gotten clean away with it. Even the line about everyone wanting their parents dead doesn't exactly convict him. Notice that he says that he wants his parents (Weyland) dead, not that he wants to kill them. The phrasing makes a big difference if we are trying to understand his intent. Wanting your parents dead means that he wishes they would unexpectedly die so he could have his freedom. Wanting to kill your parents means that he genuinely hates his parents because of who they are. Lastly, the point about the Deacon being only a one-and-done plot device for Prometheus. Really? Ridley's going to put the Deacon out their only to snatch it away from the throngs of rabid fans that have been clamoring for him all these years? Don't think so. The fans wouldn't want it. More importantly, they wouldn't "buy it." Going to an Aliens movie without the Alien would be like going to a McDonald's that didn't serve hamburgers and french fries. That's what made Aliens the franchise it is today!

Well, I am glad to make your acquaintance, David. I guess someone from Earth will come to LV 223 in the next movie, to encounter the deacon. There will be two story-lines in the movie, switching from these other people and Shaw.

I think you're right about the two story-lines. That would make perfect sense to me. We get answers to all of our Alien questions with plot line connected to LV223 and answers for Prometheus with Shaw and David's expedition to the engineers' home world. Let's just hope one of the plot lines doesn't overshadow the other, and that they find a natural thread in the plot to bring both lines of the story together. That will be a fine balancing act indeed.