What Weyland-Yutani Know About The Black Goo!

Yes, David 8 comes off as a spy. A trained killer for sure. 

I  think Bishop would have analyzed the Accelerant using the vast laboratory on board the Prometheus....David 8 smells the stuff and then gives it to Holloway!! You'd think he would at least look at it through a electron microscope ...or run some cultures! ...NOPE! lets test it on a human!

Oh sorry to go off Topic ;)

But yes what i meant by that is if there was 3 Plots to Prometheus 2 prior to Alien Covenant then maybe one of those Plots could have given us information that would have led to how the company gained such information...  i.e the other Redacted Personnel who with David 8 had been studying the information or had personal first hand contact with the Black Goo....

Also information the company does not wish to divulge regarding the Engineers at this time...

I think because such points could have been what 1-2 Plots in the Prometheus Sequel was going to cover.

"You'd think he would at least look at it through a electron microscope ...or run some cultures! ...NOPE! lets test it on a human!"

This is where the drafts gave more insight..

"POP. He removes the top. Dips his finger into the liquid.
Pulls it back out... and now brings his fingertip very VERY
close to his eye as his PUPIL DILATES AND WE ZOOM INTO --
A SUB-MICROSCOPIC VIEW. Seeing as only a mechanical EYE
could SEE. And here, wedged into the VALLEYS of David’s
fingerprint, is something very, very FAMILIAR --
It’s TEEMING WITH DOUBLE HELIXES. DNA. Just like we saw in
the beginning as we ZOOM BACK OUT TO"

So we have the Prometheus going to LV-223, and I think it's safe to say the Covenant too, perhaps a Yutani ship, then there's that failed Geryon/Kadmos mission in 2219.

Now, why do they keep going back to LV-223?  

@BigDave

Yes! That makes much more sense. Still a killer...but with some science skills.

I don't believe the Covenant will go to LV-223.  It's more likely Fox let Fire & Stone (in both 2179 and 2219) go to LV-223 because there were no plans to return there in the Prometheus sequel.

In regards to David, he was following Weyland's "Try harder" order and Holloway's admission that he'd do "anything and everything" to get his answers, gave David tacet approval to poison his drink.

Can humans cure cancer by 2093? What hope do they have figuring out alien goo? LV233 is a plague world..they need to nuke it from orbit.

Weyland developed a cure for 98% of cancers in 2022.

As far as David being a Spy, i dont know i doubt it the only thing he would do against the company would be to have his OWN AGENDA... maybe he could then want to get the  other Davids to join him in some sort of I-Robot Plot..

We cant rule out a rogue member of Weyland Science Team who played a role in the creation of David models to program some hidden code and Agenda against the Will of Weyland, maybe this person could be a Yutani spy and this would fit into the Prometheus/Paradise Lost Forbidden knowledge.

But we cant be sure... we do no a Merger happens, and if the Weyland-Yutani Report is to be taken as Canon then this happens between Prometheus and Alien Covenant.

If we look at Weyland Industries site and Blu-Ray Weyland Files, then stuff does point to Yutani knowing a fair amount.

1) They intercepted Shaws messages to Weyland and so they would know what Weylands mission was, and we have to wonder how many other messages of Weylands could they have intercepted?

2)The companies Science division long range scans have detected signal and information from LV-426 and so David is put onboard Prometheus to study findings on LV-223 but he is also aware of LV-426 no one else is... (we can assume Weyland does)  They was using Yutani Technology.

Which means Yutani know of LV-426 as much as Weyland did as of 2091 and with Yutani knowing this and the reason for the mission to LV-223 i would think they would want to dispatch their own mission or probe or unmanned mission following Prometheus.

3) If Weyland use Yutani Software before, then can we rule out Prometheus having some Technology aboard it that is Manufactured by Yutani.

I would safely assume that Yutani has indeed means to intercept or even sabotage Data that Project Prometheus Receive.  Or at very least sends off a Mission to follow behind Weylands and maybe inspect LV-426

We was led to assume maybe Weyland company is in trouble because its lost its CEO's but the Weyland-Yutani Book seems to imply that Yutani got in trouble and was brought out/ absorbed in 2099

We have to ask what happened that forced Yutani to have to Merge, as its logical that it was Weyland buy out and not Yutani gaining Weyland.

Maybe a ill fated mission to that system after the failed Prometheus is what happened?

The fact the Company is called 'Weyland-Yutani' would indicate it was a merger of equals rather than a buy out.

The interesting thing is would Fire and Stone be Canon... i doubt it as it included the Predators... and so the Weyland Yutani book maybe a resource book that can provide some stuff as Canon but not to be taken as 100% Factual because things could be changed within the Franchise...

I will come back to what the Source said to me in March 2015, they claimed that while Fire and Stone is not to be considered Canon, the Comics still show what potentially could happen and a few themes will be explored in the next movie.

which makes sense as Fire and Stone leave us wondering as far as Alien, why both and why not just go to LV-223.

Yes SM...

A Covenant.... not a total take over but some kind of deal, as i think one company has something the other wants or information.

As per the Weyland Yutani Report, everything released from the Out Of The Shadows onwards is currently considered canon (including Fire & Stone).  Films can obviously trump comics and novels (including things like the 2099 merger date) should the films creators choose.

@S.M Well, given the companies overwhelming desire for the MORB, logic tells me that either a Yutani ship or the Covenant/or it's shuttle, will touch down on LV-223, even it's only for a brief time in order to check out the Deacon. 

I don't imagine so. If a future film was going to feature LV-223, Fox would've likely told Dark Horse to set their comics elsewhere. At that time, Shaw and David had left LV-223 and weren't likely to return. (Things could have changed in the last few years of course).

And the Company hasn't really displayed an overwhelming desire to obtain the Accelerant - at least not yet. WYR had to be careful in necessarily not going into too much detail about it.

No, and I find it very strange that their desire for the Xeno still outweighs their interest in the Accelerant, as up to now that has been the case.

I don't find it especially strange. Just as how WYR had to be vague about the Accelerant, other licenses can't expand on what's been done in Prometheus because more films that might deal with it are on the way.

When everything is said and done it might look odd that they went after the Alien, when tonnes of Accelerant was sitting unguarded - or maybe it'll be dealt with.

@ BD 

My take on Prom 2 based on your exhaustive posts is the three themes were

David/Shaw their journey and stand off trickery.

Paradise Lost 

A Mission following from W Y which tied Prom to the original franchise.

I suspect they decided the D/S story line was to ephemeral and image based with lots of allegory and a transcendency feel. So

They brought Prom 2 into the A L I E N franchise by uplifting the coming of the Covenant to the beginning of the story so the W Y element drives the story and the crew come into the other two sub plots. 

Paradise Lost 

Davids transcendence and discovery/involvement in the core emblem of the franchise.  

However as you have said many of the ideas will still inform the narrative and I believe we have seen one in the horrific images of the punishment meted out on the Engineers.

In movie terms we need to know why the nefarious element in W T went for Paradise rather than LV223 or LV426 which they were receiving a faint signal from. That incidentally suggests the Jockey and its cargo is already as you surmise in place. The "backing in to" maybe the revelation of how much W Y knew about the derelict and its cargo and through the up and coming stories explain why/whether Eggs /vases etc. etc.  

This I think leads into

@ Lone why the Zeno not the goo. The B G is a nasty toxic substance and nothing remains on LV 223 to decode how to use it to reach its full potential.

Your wonderful micro management of the detail has led me to the conclusion that by the third act of Prometheus David already existed in two forms the butler servant to Sir Peter who he lead down to the Engineer when Sir Peter's daughter cautioned it would lead to his death. At that point in the story as Ridders has said David was poison in the narrative he had acquired a real understanding of what was going on on LV223 but shared not a word, Janek deducted correctly what they had come up against. David whilst in one body was already multiple personalities revealing to all, including his father, only what he wished to. 

David has left with knowledge that he maybe sharing knowingly or unknowingly. The big prize for W Y is not a lot of toxic material but the knowledge how to harness it so rather than LV223 the prize is the Engineers Homeworld, the  B.G. David and an evolving creature. How much they know about the latter two we will find out next year !

By the end of Covenant W Y will know the prize is not the B G but the Zeno and so subsequently they will look to harness the perfect specimen rather than the accelerator knowing by then that the synthetics are part of the equation, both being mechanic, one bio the other maybe by now, that is where the power and the glory lies in the future. The Goo is an ingredient but the Zeno is the cake and W Y want that and what David knows.    

Honestly...Not sure why WYR needs any outside help? They've cured cancer, have FTL starships, antigrav, AI androids(human like!), terra-form any world they want...Their labs should have come up with some really nasty stuff by now? bio-warfare, chem-warfare, super-weapons.....

It looks like Humans are on the same level as the Engineers?

What would they do if they had the goo?

What sort of enemies does Earth have?

Sounds like 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'....Nazi's(W Y/David) trying to use the Ark to kill their enemies....and we know how that turned out!

Facinating =O 

@Michelle yes thats a interesting take on it all

There was always a big Question that would be left once Prometheus came our regarding LV-223 vs LV-426 with LV-223 seeming to have far greater rewards and the Weyland-Yutani wanting to always get its hands on the Xenomorph instead.. and we have to ask why... as in the franchise the Xenomorph had ONE PURPOSE as far as the company and this was Bio-Weapon.

How could then harness the Xeno and what would be to gain?  Is it worth the constant risk/cost?

LV-223 however could give the company the very raw Genetic Material or related Material to the Xeno, as well as clues to a substance that can manipulate and create life.... not to mention Engineer Bio-Tech and Advanced Ships.... never mind Tera forming Advancements.

And these Engineers played a role in our creation, either directly or because of them we was created but there is a Hierarchy above them who pull all the strings and so Paradise may have the main clues if LV-223 is merely a Bio-Weapons Death Lab.

So why the Xeno?

Again maybe we are looking at the wrong reasons.... what if as a thread recently stated... what if Weyland-Yutani is being run by Non-Humans and Advanced Androids who are starting to Evolve and want to overthrow their masters.... if the head of W-Y is a Synthetic or Replicant then the AGENDA changes

If the Xeno was a Weapon to be used either against unruly creations or one that unruly creations used against the creators.

Then if the W-Y Hierarchy is indeed non-human and are essentially rebelling and trying to overthrow mankind then the pursuit of the Xenomorph makes more sense.

However still LV-223 is still a Plot Hole of sorts...

We have pondered, why LV-223 and Engineers and Black Goo was never touched upon in the Alien Franchise...

This is because they never existed at that time... But now they was brought into the Franchise by Prometheus, i think they would have to explain why we never hear nothing about these in Alien Franchise.

Maybe something happens to LV-223 to render it unusable and thats why LV-426 is the only place to obtain the Organism...

Logical would dictate that LV-223 and Paradise have nothing related to gain, despite Bio-Material that leads to Xeno related Organisms.... despite something related to the Xeno being on Paradise..

The pursuit of the Organism via Ripley in Alien 3 and especially Alien Resurrection shows this is the only way to obtain anything left of the Xeno and the Engineers related Bio-Weapon Technlogy.

But both movies could be wiped out of Canon, with Alien 5 which would no doubt touch up on those points above.

The Pursuit of the Xeno thus seems not logical unless we look at the Agenda of those at W-Y being different and solely about Bio-Weapon which would fit if the head of the company is NOT-HUMAN

But this is a assumption and we cant be sure who is pulling the strings at the company...

Yes the Fire and Stone Comics cover LV-223 and LV-426 but they do so in a way that leads to Plot Holes still and also merges Alien and Predator universe...

If this is Canon, then Alien 3 and Alien R make no sense... but a new sequel to Aliens i.e Alien 5 could make Fire and Stone fit in....

But i will lastly come back to the source...  they said that while Fire and Stone is NOT Canon... The events and themes in Fire and Stone are what could potentially happen the comics are Canon as far as what was going on and how the Goo would work. And that some themes from Fire and Stone are to be followed up on in Prometheus 2 ... as of October 2014 off course.

I am speaking to the person who spoke to the source either latter or tomorrow but they spoke to the source Friday and so hopefully i can get some more information.

@BD

I come at this from loving film and within that is science fiction so tie in comics and the like are out side of orbit. I have always understood Sir Ridley to recognise just the first two films.

As for a visit to LV223 isn't this about priorities and cost and wouldn't a globally accepted mission to colonise secure more support than an overt military operation. I would expect this is part of the spin by W-T and their building better worlds and bringing investors on board.

I am taking it as a given at this stage that the Robotics element of W-Y is a big part of the first theme. It fits rather neatly with preoccupations which have only grown since Ridders made A and B.R. He will not want these films to appear old fashioned and the reverse engineering can explore the bio mechanoid element of the Z M with an entirely modern mindset. 

The notion of find our creator was handled in Prom with the right degree of cynicism for todays audience. I suspect the share holders and investors in the Covenant believe some thing very useful is out there but all that God stuff is hooey. W-Y will rely very much on their inside operatives to determine what all this god stuff is all about but more to the point what is the Black Goo that kind of thinking reflects modern life overt focus which misses the bigger picture. If they can subvert any technology they will, but as always the inner corporation of W-Y are motivated by profit, it is probably only the redacted and the like that understand the "real" agenda. That layering pealing a way the layers of the organisation also looks like perfect pre equal material. It doesn't effect outcomes it just makes the context much more powerful.    

I'm getting good vibes from this topic! It's the first time (since coming back to the forum) that I've felt that optimism and excitement that I felt at the time that Prometheus was in post prod. Great topic!

Lone, Michelle and Monster Zero you've made very good points which has got me asking questions.

@Lone; you ask why the Morb and not the goo, which is a very good question and one that I have myself. 

Then, Monster Zero asks, why would W Y need the Alien or the goo when they're obviously more than capable of creating something equally as deadly and/or creative themselves?

Also a very good question and one that I will attempt to answer/theorise about in a moment. 

Then, Michelle - "@ Lone why the Zeno not the goo? The [Black Goo] is a nasty toxic substance and nothing remains on LV 223 to decode how to use it to reach its full potential."

Firstly to Michelle; The Giger Alien is also a nasty, deadly organism which appears to be impossible to control. It doesn't come with an instruction book either.

David8 can translate the engineers language and appears to understand the black stuff, therefore, other Weyland-Yutani synthetics would probably be able to figure out what it is and how it works.

Which leads us back to the question of Why the Alien and not the goo?

Secondly to Lone and Monster Zero, you both appear to be asking the same question, so please indulge me while I put my 2 pence worth in.

There is no logical reason (yet) why the company would favour the Alien over the goo.

Is there some mysterious reason why they seem to be so obsessed with obtaining the Giger Alien while not seeming to care a jot for the goo?

Well, when the other instalments in the ALIEN franchise were created, the Black Goo didn't exist (as we all know) but now it is a part of the canon, it gets people asking questions like "Why the Alien and not the goo."

It's an honest question, and one that needs to be answered. I don't think they will answer it, i think it will be overlooked because the average movie-goers don't care about the questions WE care about.

The only possible explanation I can think of is that NO transmission EVER made it back to W Y headquarters. None of the transmitions from David8, ASH or the one from ALIens were received by W Y hq, EVER, throughout the series.

Therefore,.....

To be continued...

@Necronom 4

I see it like this 

Prometheus discover Black Goo with lots of questions. There is no Zeno yet just a rather pathetic looking Deacon that has no seeming value. No one has seen what this can lead to just some odd ball monster on an empty planet the really interesting element is David's knowledge and what the Goo can trigger. 

Covenant discover that the Black Goo through David's manipulations can trigger the Zenomorph which is created out of a life cycle which includes mankind. At this point W-Y decide that along with their synthetics they want a specimen to determine its full potential. That happens as a result of Covenant.

However we can now discover an even bigger story W-Y is at its heart run by Synthetics who wish to use it achieve their mechaniod/bio mechaniod  supremacy.

Thanks to the heroism of the intervening characters such as Ripley this fails and they remain frustrated though more attempts will follow and that may be a big part of A. 5. where Ripley finds her ultimate enemy is a Synthetic run W-Y. The theme of the little guy up against a corporations rigourus pursuit of some thing they believe they can harness to their benefit (the old fashioned pursuit of power) is grown into it being part of the creator creations parallax where the Synthetics see it  as weapon they can use. By placing A 5 after A L I E N S you could reframe those two stories to show what was R E A L L Y happening.            

...Continued from the last post

(Sorry, I thought that last post was draggin' on a bit and I really needed the WC! Don't worry BigD, I'm not trying to steal your thunder Haha. This is probably the longest post I have ever written lol.)

...It would explain why W Y were never interested in the black stuff, because They didn't know it or the alien even existed. 

It would also explain why, in ALIENS, W-Y didn't appear to know that the Derelict, Space Jockey and Cargo was there. The colonists had been there for 20 years and no-one was sent out to the derelict in all that time? That tells me that they (WY CEO's) didn't even know that the Nostromo landed there and what happened. A huge mistake by Cameron?

What I take from ALIEN and the beacon/warning signal, is that MOTHER and ASH had been programmed to respond to any possible contact with Alien lifeforms. They had absolutely zero knowledge of the Derelict, Space Jockey and cargo of eggs until Dallas and Lambert (I'm assuming) told them about it.

The only explanation, for me, to explain the lack of knowledge of the goo, is that no-one from the Covenant mission survived. Or, maybe someone did survive but they never got the opportunity to talk about the goo.

No-one from the Prometheus mission got the chance to tell all about it.

Maybe Ripley was ever the only one to have gotten back to Earth (In ALIENS.) But she had no knowledge of the goo.

While I think this is a good way to explain why the powers that be never really seemed to know much about what had been discovered until Ripley told the board of CEO's and Burke in ALIENS, it would mean that the WYR is just fan fiction and not canon.

Who knows, there might be an explination for it all in ALIEN: Covenant which explains all the inconsistencies?

I hope not though! I personally hope no-one survives to tell the tale! It would be very fitting. 

@Necronom 4

Yeah, not a big fan of terra forming LV426...Didn't they do a survey of the planet before they started?!

W Y: "So you guys checked for life? any structures? any crashed spaceships withing driving distance of where we are going to build Hadley's Hope?"

Building crew: "Yes sir! nothing within miles!"

I'd just assume Aliens was a Ripley(Jonesy)Cryo-Dream...I think Ridley favors this as well!

Yeah man. That's something else I can't understand about Cameron's mindset; He sent a load of families off to a baron rock, 39 light years from Earth to terraform it, for what?

He obviously had no idea that Ridley had landed there 57 years earlier and the impression that the audience got was that the Company knew all about it.

Cameron obviously didn't engage his brain!

Ok, that's the last time I'm gonna Cameron bash, I promise.

Maybe. 

WY partnered with the ECA to terraform LV-426 as an advance in mineral rights. The novelisation mentions that the amount of methane in the atmosphere made it an ideal terraforming candidate. The River of Pain novel also touches on other motives.

As for why the Company didn't go after the accelerant - the Prometheus mission was classified, no one on the crew knew where they were going and those who did were all on the ship, and subsequently dead or missing.

Ok while not to clog this thread up...

I had gained a bit more information from the source and updated it here..

Prometheus 2 Plot Possible Leak Speculation

Yes there are things from Alien and Aliens and Prometheus that contradict or dont add up... as far as prior knowledge.

I would assume that some at the company knew by the time of the latter movies that something prior had happened.

The Nostramo was re-routed to collect Ash and he became a member of the crew to perform Order 937, he knew of the Signal from LV-426 and he knew also that it was not a SOS but a Warning, but his duty on board was to obtain a Specimen and the Crew of the Nostramo where just Pawns.

It is very likely David was also aware of the LV-426 signal and after Prometheus he would have been able to Put 2+2 Together.  And who is to say if he never settled down on LV-426 before he departed to Paradise?

So it would be interesting to see these things covered and also how the Covenant manages to find Paradise as i doubt 90% plus of the Crew have a single idea that they are going to a World that is related to the Engineers or LV-223/LV-426

I think they would be just as unaware as the Nostramo Crew were.

So will David 8 become MOTHER? It would be nice, when I'm watching Alien,  to think David is still out there....messing with us.

And It really sounds as though the A.I. are running the show....So many light years between W Y and the crews of these ships...You can't wait for orders....You really need a avatar standing right there.

Ash was rotated onto the crew just before they left Thedus.  They weren't re-routed to pick him up.

Yeah that was what i meant lol

My re-routed i mean it would seem the company got the ship to go to Thedus to pick up Ash for exactly the reason of the Signal on LV-426 prior to Ash being assigned to replace the Science Officer he and the company knew more about LV-426 than the helpless crew of the Nostramo.

The ship was not then on its way to some place and then re-routed to LV-426... it would seem very likely that the company made it appear this way but indeed the ships destination was LV-426 for its motive of Order 937

The ship's itinerary was Sol-Thedus return (picking up Ripley, Parker and Brett on the outward journey).  The WYR says it picked up the signal from LV-426 on the way to Thedus, but it was initially thought to be from a lost probe and ignored.  When it got back to Network, it was deciphered, word sent to Thedus, Ash rotated onto the crew, SO 937 issued and the ship secretly re-routed to make it look like Mother picked it up by accident.

Interesting stuff.

But with the whole Franchise it seems those pulling the strings may know more than whats let on...  Maybe we will never know or be shown.... but when the company received this signal as the Nostromo was on the way to Thedus  we have to ask did at any point the company be that Weyland or Yutani prior to Merger or after... not pick up Shaws SOS 28 years prior

Also what of the Covenant, how much did they know or the company suits who sent Covenant to Paradise as far as Shaws SOS and LV-223 and surely if they knew then how could they miss the LV-426 signal.

They Weyland Industries Website states the company knew about the Zeta 2 System and discovered it in May 14, 2039 but only as far as it being a system that has ringed planet with  multiple moons that may be able to support life.

Also prior to reaching LV-223 David knew about LV-426 to a degree as a long range scan had detected that maybe LV-426 has bigger riches to gain than LV-223.  And only David was to be made aware of LV-426... Vickers Shaw and Holloway was not to be informed of the results of such scans

Could the LV-426 Signal had been detected by those scans and could David had detected it while he was nearing LV-223

Or was the Signal not there of Prometheus?

Maybe the next few movies could answer that, even if the Space Jockey was there for thousands of years, they could change the Plot so that the SOS was activated years after... maybe even by a company crew?

Perhaps.

The absence of Shaw's signal could be explained in that she transmitted it via Vickers lifeboat, and the lifeboat ran out of power after a couple of years.

The Fire & Stone comics also talk about a signal from Prometheus coming from beneath a mountain on LV-223 and the 'mountain' is a living thing (possibly the Deacon) which is all but blocking the transmission.  With the latter in mind I don't imagine they'll explore LV-223 again.

Yes maybe they will bypass it... or maybe this is where Alien 5 comes in?

LV-223 did leave a lot of questions as far as why the company never went back or not that we was shown (which does not mean it never happened).

This could be explained someway without having to visit LV-223, explained someway why they only wanted the Xenomorph...

Fire and Stone did cover it.. but if this is to be Canon it leaves a lot of Plot Holes as far as Aliens onwards... but not if Alien 3 and Alien R are replaced.

Thing that bugs me if they dont cover it, and we are just left to then think... well the Weyland Yutani report points to Fire and Stone... is that if we then pursue Fire and Stone as Canon and what is actually happening..

Then this brings Predators into the Franchise.

Then again we dont know what changes are made to the draft for the sequel...

Alien Engineers was LV-426 changed to near by moon LV-223....

Ridley hinted that he always felt LV-426 was Paradise.

And so right now, as far as Canon in the movies we dont know if LV-426 was a Lush Paradise of a World rather than a Dark and Baron place.... 

Or like Fire and Stone showed.. that if LV-223 after the contamination and crashed Juggernaught that happened in Prometheus, maybe LV-223 could evolve into a less Baron Jungle World.

Thus maybe Alien Covenant could be set on either LV-223 that has gone from Baron to a degree to more habitable or a LV-426 that was habitable  but by the time of Alien is baron?

Mind you the Synopsis says "Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy" which literally could mean upto 75'000 Light Years away... which is unlikely.

Yet Prometheus was set on the Dark side of the Universe which is well.... could be Billions of Light Years away in another Galaxy.

So we dont know how far Paradise is... but i would imagine its not near LV-223 and LV-223 cant be Paradise as the Engineer said they was not from there...

But we cant rule out David luring them to one of those places instead of going to where Shaw wanted to go... however the Covenant is going to uncharted Paradise which maybe rules LV-223 because would it be charted after Prometheus or not?

@BigDave; Weyland and David having prior knowledge of the signal coming from LV426 is something from the Weyland files on the DVD/Bluray isn't it? Didn't FOX come out and say that those files were just a bit of fun and not to be taken as canon?

Which leads me to;

S.M. - "The WYR says it picked up the signal from LV-426 on the way to Thedus, but it was initially thought to be from a lost probe and ignored."

This actually makes sense. It suggests that Weyland Yutani and therefore David had no prior knowledge of the Derelict and cargo,which is how I've always seen it. Like I said in an earlier comment; I don't think ASH and MOTHER were in direct contact with W Y hq. I think MOTHER and therefore ASH had inbuilt programming that gave them certain protocols to follow in the event that they came into contact with extra-terrestrial life, therefore only collating between themselves, not W Y hq.

What brings me to this conclusion is that if ASH and MOTHER had been in contact with WY hq during the events of ALIEN, surely WY hq would have received information from ASH about the Alien, derelict and its co-ordinates.

Therefore, if they had had this information then surely they would have sent another crew when the Nostromo didn't arrive home. 

In ALIENS, another crew isn't sent to LV426 until 37 years later. And they weren't there to investigate the derelict and cargo. They were there to terraform. It wasn't until Ripley got back to Earth and informed them about what had happened and they didn't believe her until contact with the colony was lost.

Therefore, they had no prior knowledge of the derelict and cargo.

As far as Burke and the company were concerned, they were going to LV426 to get a specimen of an alien lifeform. But, they had no idea what it was and what it was capable of. But, no one made it back to Earth to tell the tale.

It wasn't until ALIEN 3 that information about the alien was sent to WY hq. And a team was sent out to capture it, unsuccessfully.

So, the only way that ALIEN: Covenant can believably exist in the same universe as ALIEN, is if the crew and David8 don't get the chance to give WY hq information about what they've discovered.

I'm betting that none of the A C crew make it and that David8 will either be destroyed or he will remain on Paradise.