THE MURAL ROOM

"And so i will not discus my theory of the Mural which i think is a Sacrificial Pose to show Sacrifice which the Engineers may had worshiped too....  or that gave them ever lasting life or similar.... many possibilities but i dont see it as God. or Jesus"

sacrifice for what though? this is the question, why are they sacrificing themselves to create life? simply because they can? i really doubt that such an advanced race would sacrifice and create life for the sake of sacrificing and creating life...that level of arrogance would have seen them dead and gone as a species million of years ago. no...i think they're getting orders from someone to do it. and that's also why the engineer breaks david....it's his way of telling the corporatist weyland:"YOU DON'T GET IT YOU MORON!"

Thank you!

both are awesome. it's like i'm looking at giger being reinterpreted by the future sound of london. feral psychedelia. i love it!

Oh boy..... here we go LOL

This is going to take ages as well there is a lot of connections and theories so i dont know where to start...

So i will start with this...

"is the black goo just engineer blood?"

100% No.... as far as 100% Blood... its definitely not.

But yes the Engineers Blood is black, or black ish and very dark so it could be very dark red, blue, purple but most likely black.....   Further proof is when the Engineer is shot

The Goo in the Urns yes goes black, but they are not black inside.

They have what look like Glass vials, that contains a substance that is cloudy a bit, maybe like dirt added to water it is something organic held in a liquid... that when poured out it, it has a dark color but its not black and it also looks like microscopic organisms are inside of it.... maybe like Semen is...

However the these ampoules seem to be encased in a grey slimy material

The reaction to atmosphere in the room must cause a reaction where the Glass vials are dissolved mixing the substance inside with the slime on the outside to make the Black Oil like Goo, it causes a reaction that produces a lot of Black Goo from what appear to be smaller quantities of two other ingredients.

So it is not Engineer Blood, but the chemical inside is either related to the Xenomorph DNA... maybe its the DNA of the Deacon Mural..... and the outer chemical slime is a accelerant or its vice versa and slime contains Xeno DNA and the Black compound inside is a accelerant

Thats how it all looked...

The Sacrificial Bowl/Cup had a kind of thick Metallic Material like say a Frozen Yogurt or thick cream consistency that then reacted and started to bubble and break down where it then did have some parts of it a Gold/Bronze Color...

This substance was some kind of solid like a Mousse that then melted and it would be like maybe having a frozen cup of butter that is then exposed to heat.

Its hard to explain what it really is as far as texture but its something that started more solid form that then reacted to the Air....

This then mixed with the Engineers Body then seemed to break down his Genetic Material also causing his material to turn into a black liquid... but his blood was also most likey black too.

Thats just the Atheistic of the Goo in its two forms..

As for its purpose... well as far as theories and supporting evidence its been covered a lot as its pretty open...

I will in a nut shell cover the varients as far as the Idea and Concept.

1) Spaights draft the Cup had a Sticky Bowl of Cake like Material, that dissolved into Nano Scarabs, these then ate and broke down the Engineers Genetic Material.    These Scarabs then contain and store that Material and then anything they bite they then inject that Genetic Material into the victim and causes their DNA to Evolve and take on board traits of the Organism the Scarabs had consumed DNA from.

2) Lindeloffs replaced the Scarabs with a Mutagen/Goo that started off as a thick like hard butter substance that melted down....   We latter see the Urns contain a Black Material Goo that evolves Organisms in contact to have Xeno Traits...  But as prior the Urns contain a number of elements to them... a outer Slime based Goo, and a Glass vial inside that contains a substance inside and the two mix to produce the Black Goo, this merging seems to be able to produce a substance in great quantity.

However the substance within the Glass Vial on its own can also contain Xeno DNA and did not need the outer slime to be of use..

Maybe the Substance in the Glass vial needs a liquid for it to be effective.

Both of these showed us maybe a different substance... one from the start and the urns.... the urns maybe being the after result of exposure to the Sacrificial Cup contents..

Hense Sacrificial Pose on the Mural and the Sacrificial Cup on the Alter (replaced later by Green Crystal)

Spaights Scarabs makes it more clearer, if we look at the contents of the Urns in his draft, they are knocked over and contain Nano Scarabs who instead of breaking Fifields DNA down, they inject him with DNA that has Xeno traits... like how the Sacrificial Scarabs after they consumed the Engineer DNA, they bite a primate and transfer Engineer DNA that leads to us.

3) Fox then came up with a explanation for the Goo, but it mainly dealt with the Urns  and is well contradicting.

4) Fire and Stone tried to show the effect of the Urns similar to in part Fox's Weyland Files as above (3) but also with similar effect to Prometheus.

5) The source said the Goo was Originally a Parasite, but  then they have evolved it further to be the source of EVERYTHING as far as Creation.

So to try and work out exactly whats going on is hard.

@BigDave; in that image of the sacrificial cup, the only blackness I can see is the black of the actual cup itself. The whole contents of the cup just look like some sort of metallic seeds?

Where's the black goo in that cup?

The source claims and again i cant guarantee they are correct.

The Goo (they dont say which one, so maybe we are to consider only ONE GOO) that it should be considered like the Forbidden Fruit, and its a Tool of Creation but also Destruction.

Yes maybe Eitr can be used as basis, it could seem similar and yes it comes from a Serpent in the Norse Mythos.

Also look at other Serpent related things a number of religions and mythos have it that Serpents Blood can be the giver of life or the taker away.

Such as Gorons... some Greek myths say that Blood from the Right side could bring dead back to life and from the Left side instant death.

So maybe it is the Blood of something?

There are myths that replace Fruit of a Tree with Blood... and so who knows what if any connection and i hope the next movie gives us some answers.

In this image:

The only black I can see is the black of the cup itself.

Where's the black goo?

@Necronom 4

Indeed it does not appear black only when it actually is consumed it seems to internally turn black... but this could be the Engineers Blood.

The Engineers DNA changes from a sand color to black the breaks apart.

But he stuff in the Cup looked like some Metallic like thick substance like a Mousse that then melted away to reveal like a hollow honeycomb pattern or like Moose having Air Bubbles and these seemed to have a mix of Metallic colors and was bubbling 

So, there is NO black goo in the cup?

I always assumed that there was black goo in the cup combined with some other element. But there's NO black goo in the cup what-so-ever is there?

Therefor, whatever is in this cup that the elder consumes, turns his blood into black goo. Right? 

yeah but the black substance in the urns look EXACTLY like engineer blood.

Wait a minute. After all these years of people saying that the elder in the opening scene drinks BLACK GOO which breaks down his DNA. I've only just realised that they and myself were mistaken with what they saw!

That sacrificial cup does not appear to contain black goo. Whatever it is that the elder consumes, it turns his blood/DNA black.

Therefor, whatever is in the urns (Giger Alien DNA?) has consumed the same substance that the elder in the opening scene consumed.

Jesus! I can't believe after all this time that I didn't see that!

Remember.... the source said its like MATRIX

There is NO CUP lol

To be honest not really but it does seem some of the Goo does go a bit black but its hard to tell, i will watch the movie again after....

@T_C; The stuff in the urns is either Alien/Morb DNA or/and Engineer DNA!

"Jesus! I can't believe after all this time that I didn't see that!"

LOL or you never read my Theory posted many years ago and over and over since lol

Yeah theory i had was that these Engineers came across something, or was punished by it...  The result of which produced a Chest Buster Event that maybe gave these Engineers a way to Carry a Child so to speak? or some other reason..

But basically the result these Engineers where very intriged by and they continued to Re-Engineer and Experiment in this until they achieved the Deacon in the Mural

They then saw this result as Perfect, and that its this Organisms DNA that is greater than their own DNA and these Engineers Worshiped this....

They then using the Sacrificial Goo,  Sacrificed a Deacon to make the Goo in the Urns (substance inside the Glass Vials)

Imagine if the Engineer drank the Goo while he was inside a massive tank maybe with a bit of water inside, what happens to his broken down material with no other DNA to infect (this assumes Sacrificial Scene was his DNA evolving basic life on Earth)

Then this material is collected into Jars... then the contents of these Jars poured into the Waterfall... would the end result not be the same?

And so i think they Sacrificed the Deacon so they can then use its more PERFECT DNA rather than their own on Earth and other worlds...

sometimes to create one must first destroy..

Thats my main theory.... but i am not sure now... the Source has information that points to this in one way.. but also goes against it in others.

To me its a theory that made sense... but its it the correct theory? or was it?

Who knows..

@BigDave; Haha, I get all that. And I always take great interest in your posts! I've always thought that the black stuff in  the urns was the DNA of the Giger Alien.

However, I've always been confused (probably due to my colour blindness) regarding the sacrificial substance from the opening scene.

A lot of people have assumed that the elder drinks black goo which contains some other element. But in actual fact, the black that they see is the black of the inside of the cup itself. There is no black goo in that cup.

Due to all the comments from these people and the fact that I thought maybe I missed that because I'm color blind, I just accepted it.

Now I see it in a completely different light and it now makes ALOT more sense to me.

The black stuff is the product of DNA that has been broken down by whatever is in the sacrificial cup.

The contents of the cup turn the elders blood into the black stuff which then (once his body has broken down) infects and mutates the basic microorganisms in the sea.

The Aliens sacrificial pose in the mural and the fact that the sacrificial cup was infront of it on the alter suggests that it had been sacrificed in a similar way to the elder, via the metallic seeds in the cup which then turned its DNA into the black stuff.

Then we have the giant head statue. Maybe his DNA is in there also? 

but guys i don't think it's the dna of the xeno the xeno has acid for blood, not black like the engineers.....i really do just think that the blood of the engineers is just extremely potent in environments that are 'alien' to them so to speak. how can we be sure that the urns are not just engineer blood?

another reason why i keep banging on about the engineer blood in the urns is because holloway says 'this is just another tomb'

"5) The source said the Goo was Originally a Parasite, but  then they have evolved it further to be the source of EVERYTHING as far as Creation."

So to try and work out exactly whats going on is hard.

yes but why would they want to create in the first place is my question. and i don't think it's simply 'because they can' because if that was the case, then why would the last engineer be so enraged by the existence of david?